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By Jetackuu 2013-07-24 00:00:19
I still can't figure out the "self identifies as Hispanic" line the media keeps portraying.
for the media and the judge being against him, and still being found not guilty, it must really sting for certain groups.
Their trying to push that he's "white". GZ is about as much "white" as Obama is.
Liberal media portraying GZ as "hispanic" would mean he was a minority and according to liberal reasoning minorities can not oppress people. So because they want to believe GZ was oppressing TM, they can't possibly accept that GZ was a minority.
Mental gymnastics.
I'd agree with you if you didn't throw around the word "liberal" like a fox lapdog.
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By Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby 2013-07-24 00:14:13
I'd agree with you if you didn't throw around the word "liberal" like a fox lapdog. Yeah, next thing you know we'll have people throwing around "racist" and "murder" haphazardly...
...oh, wait...
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-07-24 00:23:36
Do you guys buy those strawmen in bulk?
By Jetackuu 2013-07-24 00:27:11
Do you guys buy those strawmen in bulk?
I was more kind of alluding to my disdain for the fact that the word "liberal" has been made a dirty word.
I just can't figure out how the concept of open-mindedness and wanting progress has because a bad thing. It baffles my mind.
I was also taking a jab at something I hear quite often from just about any Fox viewer.
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By Enuyasha 2013-07-24 00:28:25
Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »I'd agree with you if you didn't throw around the word "liberal" like a fox lapdog. Yeah, next thing you know we'll have people throwing around "racist" and "murder" haphazardly...
...oh, wait... Yea, we'll even have the other side of the argument openly using race baiting as their main weapon.
oh, wait!
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By Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby 2013-07-24 00:32:44
Yea, we'll even have the other side of the argument openly using race baiting as their main weapon.
oh, wait! Link? I mean race baiting on the pro-Zimmerman side. Finding race-baiting on the pro-Trayvon side would be WAAAAAYYY too easy.
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By Enuyasha 2013-07-24 00:34:31
Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »Yea, we'll even have the other side of the argument openly using race baiting as their main weapon.
oh, wait! Link? I mean race baiting on the pro-Zimmerman side. Finding race-baiting on the pro-Trayvon side would be WAAAAAYYY too easy. Sorry, you apparently havent seen the thousands of jpegs that came out since the trial started.
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By Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby 2013-07-24 00:38:35
Sorry, you apparently havent seen the thousands of jpegs that came out since the trial started. Apparently not, but I'm sure it pales in comparison to having 0bama keep sticking his nose in it to stir up tensions.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2013-07-24 00:44:43
Do you guys buy those strawmen in bulk?
I was more kind of alluding to my disdain for the fact that the word "liberal" has been made a dirty word.
I just can't figure out how the concept of open-mindedness and wanting progress has because a bad thing. It baffles my mind.
I was also taking a jab at something I hear quite often from just about any Fox viewer.
Well because liberals tend to use coercion to get people to do what they want which is in fact to exact opposite of liberty. Liberals are intolerant of everyone that disagrees with them. They believe that people that disagree with them are not only wrong but evil. It is a severe mental disorder born of arrogance. That is why it has a negative connotation. They also tend to wear those pussy little hipster glasses. Oh my God do I hate those pussy little hipster glasses.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2013-07-24 00:50:29
Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »Sorry, you apparently havent seen the thousands of jpegs that came out since the trial started. Apparently not, but I'm sure it pales in comparison to having 0bama keep sticking his nose in it to stir up tensions.
Yeah he is so full of crap saying if he had a son he would look like Trayvon. If he had a son he wouldn't be wearing a hoodie he would be wearing khakis or a uniform from his rich private school. He wouldn't have gold teeth, he would be wearing a gold rolex. He wouldn't be walking home with his soda and skittles to make Drank, he'd be sipping Perrier after Racquetball practice.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-07-24 00:52:25
Do you guys buy those strawmen in bulk?
I was more kind of alluding to my disdain for the fact that the word "liberal" has been made a dirty word.
I just can't figure out how the concept of open-mindedness and wanting progress has because a bad thing. It baffles my mind.
I was also taking a jab at something I hear quite often from just about any Fox viewer. Was referring mostly to T-baby's (he lets me call him that cause we're buds) post. The hot thing to do in these threads lately is to slap the liberal label on an imagined idea that has nothing to do with the argument at hand so that we're forced to defend an opinion that we never actually made. It's a great way to vomit all over a thread!
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Well because liberals tend to use coercion to get people to do what they want which is in fact to exact opposite of liberty. Liberals are intolerant of everyone that disagrees with them. They believe that people that disagree with them are not only wrong but evil. It is a severe mental disorder born of arrogance. That is why it has a negative connotation. They also tend to wear those pussy little hipster glasses. Oh my God do I hate those pussy little hipster glasses. See!
By Enuyasha 2013-07-24 01:03:53
Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »Sorry, you apparently havent seen the thousands of jpegs that came out since the trial started. Apparently not, but I'm sure it pales in comparison to having 0bama keep sticking his nose in it to stir up tensions.
Sorry, you can cherry pick the rest, groups like that that have shown "Pro-Zimmerman" support mill out tons of Bigoted and Anti-semitic nonsense sprinkled in with the usual FOX prop peices but are quick to blame "liberals"(specifically the head "liberal") for "Racism", "race baiting", and "communist/Islamic/Socialist actions".
So dont tell me its liberals on the Trayvon Martin end only using "race bait".
They even have a post or 16 about the truck accident that Zimmerman appeared at, which also has some snappy reddit fonts about the subject and the use of "liberals" liberally.
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »Sorry, you apparently havent seen the thousands of jpegs that came out since the trial started. Apparently not, but I'm sure it pales in comparison to having 0bama keep sticking his nose in it to stir up tensions.
Yeah he is so full of crap saying if he had a son he would look like Trayvon. If he had a son he wouldn't be wearing a hoodie he would be wearing khakis or a uniform from his rich private school. He wouldn't have gold teeth, he would be wearing a gold rolex. He wouldn't be walking home with his soda and skittles to make Drank, he'd be sipping Perrier after Racquetball practice. ooooohhh:
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2013-07-24 01:08:07
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Well because liberals tend to use coercion to get people to do what they want which is in fact to exact opposite of liberty. Liberals are intolerant of everyone that disagrees with them. They believe that people that disagree with them are not only wrong but evil. It is a severe mental disorder born of arrogance. That is why it has a negative connotation. They also tend to wear those pussy little hipster glasses. Oh my God do I hate those pussy little hipster glasses.
Funny how you could turn this entire chunk of wordcraft into a criticism of the Republican party.
You know, the party that calls science lies straight from the pits of hell, legislates morality based on cafeterian interpretations of one religion, champions discrimination, fosters division and are about conserving one and only one interpretation of America. It's why the party can't expand beyond old, tired white men.
See, I can tolerate those who disagree with me politically because that's life, full of variety and nuance as much as I may feel I'm right on XYZ topic. But the far right zealots? Anyone who doesn't agree wholeheartedly with their gospel is tinder for the flames.
You can keep the Christian Taliban, I prefer to avoid groups of people who could easily be manipulated into mass murder.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2013-07-24 01:10:51
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »Sorry, you apparently havent seen the thousands of jpegs that came out since the trial started. Apparently not, but I'm sure it pales in comparison to having 0bama keep sticking his nose in it to stir up tensions.
Yeah he is so full of crap saying if he had a son he would look like Trayvon. If he had a son he wouldn't be wearing a hoodie he would be wearing khakis or a uniform from his rich private school. He wouldn't have gold teeth, he would be wearing a gold rolex. He wouldn't be walking home with his soda and skittles to make Drank, he'd be sipping Perrier after Racquetball practice.
He said look like Trayvon because you know, he's black.
It doesn't matter how fancy you're dressed, how articulate you are or how much you try to shed every negative black stereotype in the book, you'll never escape the judgmental society that equates black with criminality. You know, the whole reason that Zimmerman profiled in the first place.
Obama's daughters could probably give you a story or two about being profiled or stereotyped and they haven't even hit 20 yet.
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By Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby 2013-07-24 01:19:51
Sorry, you can cherry pick the rest, groups like that that have shown "Pro-Zimmerman" support mill out tons of Bigoted and Anti-semitic nonsense sprinkled in with the usual FOX prop peices but are quick to blame "liberals"(specifically the head "liberal") for "Racism", "race baiting", and "communist/Islamic/Socialist actions".
So dont tell me its liberals on the Trayvon Martin end only using "race bait".
They even have a post or 16 about the truck accident that Zimmerman appeared at, which also has some snappy reddit fonts about the subject and the use of "liberals" liberally. You miss the point. The point of those is to show that black youths are in more danger of the Trayvons of the world than of the Zimmermans. People are far more likely to kill people of their own race, but you have all these black people feigning outrage or maybe actually legitimately getting worked up over the utter nonsense that they can't walk the streets for fear of some white (idk how us white folks got dragged into this, but..) citizen gunning them down in cold blood. People point out accurate statistics, point out the hypocrisy and selective outrage, and point out what suckers huge chunks of the American people are that they could be made to feel such empathy for a guy who was nothing but trouble anyway. It is really sad all the way around, and 0bama and company basically decided to do to Zimmerman what he did to the Benghazi scapegoat videographer. You are being played and you don't even know it, all you can do is kneejerk react to perceived racism on one side, while ignoring the giant elephant of racism on your own. What evidence was there that race played any role until 0bama and Holder sent down some agitators? ZERO. But since people erroneously thought he was white, they assumed a white guy MUST have been racist. In fact, Sh** for brains Barry Zero and Eric the Incompetent are STILL trying to find racism there so they can get revenge against Whitey, even setting up a hotline. THAT is race-baiting. You should be able to recognize it, not just react. Whatever hurt feelings you or anyone else has is no justification for vengeance or hatred. You all got played. You have a wound, mostly self-inflicted, and 0bama stuck his skinny little finger in there and twisted it around.
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By Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby 2013-07-24 01:21:15
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »He said look like Trayvon because you know, he's black.
It doesn't matter how fancy you're dressed, how articulate you are or how much you try to shed every negative black stereotype in the book, you'll never escape the judgmental society that equates black with criminality. You know, the whole reason that Zimmerman profiled in the first place.
Obama's daughters could probably give you a story or two about being profiled or stereotyped and they haven't even hit 20 yet. Yaayyy!! *clap* *clap* *clap*
Now read us another liberal fairy tale! The one about Hillary, the smartest woman in the world!
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By Jetackuu 2013-07-24 01:34:03
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Do you guys buy those strawmen in bulk?
I was more kind of alluding to my disdain for the fact that the word "liberal" has been made a dirty word.
I just can't figure out how the concept of open-mindedness and wanting progress has because a bad thing. It baffles my mind.
I was also taking a jab at something I hear quite often from just about any Fox viewer.
Well because liberals tend to use coercion to get people to do what they want which is in fact to exact opposite of liberty. Liberals are intolerant of everyone that disagrees with them. They believe that people that disagree with them are not only wrong but evil. It is a severe mental disorder born of arrogance. That is why it has a negative connotation. They also tend to wear those pussy little hipster glasses. Oh my God do I hate those pussy little hipster glasses.
I disagree with you on everything in that statement, short of that the hipster glasses are rather pussy.
By Jetackuu 2013-07-24 01:34:52
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »Sorry, you apparently havent seen the thousands of jpegs that came out since the trial started. Apparently not, but I'm sure it pales in comparison to having 0bama keep sticking his nose in it to stir up tensions.
Yeah he is so full of crap saying if he had a son he would look like Trayvon. If he had a son he wouldn't be wearing a hoodie he would be wearing khakis or a uniform from his rich private school. He wouldn't have gold teeth, he would be wearing a gold rolex. He wouldn't be walking home with his soda and skittles to make Drank, he'd be sipping Perrier after Racquetball practice.
He said look like Trayvon because you know, he's black.
It doesn't matter how fancy you're dressed, how articulate you are or how much you try to shed every negative black stereotype in the book, you'll never escape the judgmental society that equates black with criminality. You know, the whole reason that Zimmerman profiled in the first place.
Obama's daughters could probably give you a story or two about being profiled or stereotyped and they haven't even hit 20 yet.
to the bold:
lol, you have no evidence to support that claim, it's actually rather sad that people are still trying to make it...
By Enuyasha 2013-07-24 01:36:05
Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »Sorry, you can cherry pick the rest, groups like that that have shown "Pro-Zimmerman" support mill out tons of Bigoted and Anti-semitic nonsense sprinkled in with the usual FOX prop peices but are quick to blame "liberals"(specifically the head "liberal") for "Racism", "race baiting", and "communist/Islamic/Socialist actions".
So dont tell me its liberals on the Trayvon Martin end only using "race bait".
They even have a post or 16 about the truck accident that Zimmerman appeared at, which also has some snappy reddit fonts about the subject and the use of "liberals" liberally. You miss the point. The point of those is to show that black youths are in more danger of the Trayvons of the world than of the Zimmermans. People are far more likely to kill people of their own race, but you have all these black people feigning outrage or maybe actually legitimately getting worked up over the utter nonsense that they can't walk the streets for fear of some white (idk how us white folks got dragged into this, but..) citizen gunning them down in cold blood. People point out accurate statistics, point out the hypocrisy and selective outrage, and point out what suckers huge chunks of the American people are that they could be made to feel such empathy for a guy who was nothing but trouble anyway. It is really sad all the way around, and 0bama and company basically decided to do to Zimmerman what he did to the Benghazi scapegoat videographer. You are being played and you don't even know it, all you can do is kneejerk react to perceived racism on one side, while ignoring the giant elephant of racism on your own. What evidence was there that race played any role until 0bama and Holder sent down some agitators? ZERO. But since people erroneously thought he was white, they assumed a white guy MUST have been racist. In fact, Sh** for brains Barry Zero and Eric the Incompetent are STILL trying to find racism there so they can get revenge against Whitey, even setting up a hotline. THAT is race-baiting. You should be able to recognize it, not just react. Whatever hurt feelings you or anyone else has is no justification for vengeance or hatred. You all got played. You have a wound, mostly self-inflicted, and 0bama stuck his skinny little finger in there and twisted it around. By selectively picking out racially specific statistics regarding race violence. Or, using the issue of race to coerce. Race- Baiting (v.).
Please tell me how an announcement from the president after the public got hold of the story (Via FOX,NBC,CNN,MSNBC,etc [yes, i noted "liberal" stations as well]) "sent down some agitators". The public had already made it a race based case, which it most likely was,but lets save that flaming wall of "u stewpid" for the next page when you forget what your next que is.
Besides, i think a person walking in the rain with a hood up is suspicious, but only after i realize he's black and needs to be followed even though advised not to apparently for my own safety.
By Jetackuu 2013-07-24 01:39:19
I still find it funny that people keep bringing up the skittles, like it makes him innocent. Yeah like thugs don't like candy too.
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By Enuyasha 2013-07-24 01:43:09
I still find it funny that people keep bringing up the skittles, like it makes him innocent. Yeah like thugs don't like candy too. I use skittles and Arizona iced tea as a weapon to rob homes with, but dont tell anybody man!
By Fumiku 2013-07-24 01:49:03
I still find it funny that people keep bringing up the skittles, like it makes him innocent. Yeah like thugs don't like candy too.
I still find it funny that people keep bringing up the skittles, like it makes him innocent. Yeah like thugs don't like candy too. I use skittles and Arizona iced tea as a weapon to rob homes with, but dont tell anybody man!
That is an awful combination......... actually does skittles even go with anything?......
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2013-07-24 02:09:36
I still find it funny that people keep bringing up the skittles, like it makes him innocent. Yeah like thugs don't like candy too. I use skittles and Arizona iced tea as a weapon to rob homes with, but dont tell anybody man!
I don't always burglarize homes but when I do I have Skittles to distract the family dog and an Arizona to melt the locks.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2013-07-24 02:11:47
to the bold:
lol, you have no evidence to support that claim, it's actually rather sad that people are still trying to make it...
It's conjecture based on my interpretation of the 911 tape. Zimmy got what the justice system dictates he get when there is insufficient evidence of a crime - his innocence.
Doesn't change the fact I think he profiled Martin while out driving that night looking for criminals.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2013-07-24 02:13:39
Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »Yaayyy!! *clap* *clap* *clap*
Now read us another liberal fairy tale! The one about Hillary, the smartest woman in the world!
I'll tell the one about Mitt Romney, president of the United States.
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By Jetackuu 2013-07-24 03:44:18
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »to the bold:
lol, you have no evidence to support that claim, it's actually rather sad that people are still trying to make it...
It's conjecture based on my interpretation of the 911 tape. Zimmy got what the justice system dictates he get when there is insufficient evidence of a crime - his innocence.
Doesn't change the fact I think he profiled Martin while out driving that night looking for criminals.
I don't see how you draw that conclusion, maybe from the edited tape, but from the actual tape, I just don't see it.
He should never have been in the court room in the first place, based on Florida law, the arrest should have never been made.
He also wasn't driving that night looking for criminals, he was on the way to Target for groceries when he spotted a suspicious character being suspicious, and he called it in.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2013-07-24 05:54:50
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Well because liberals tend to use coercion to get people to do what they want which is in fact to exact opposite of liberty. Liberals are intolerant of everyone that disagrees with them. They believe that people that disagree with them are not only wrong but evil. It is a severe mental disorder born of arrogance. That is why it has a negative connotation. They also tend to wear those pussy little hipster glasses. Oh my God do I hate those pussy little hipster glasses.
Funny how you could turn this entire chunk of wordcraft into a criticism of the Republican party.
You know, the party that calls science lies straight from the pits of hell, legislates morality based on cafeterian interpretations of one religion, champions discrimination, fosters division and are about conserving one and only one interpretation of America. It's why the party can't expand beyond old, tired white men.
See, I can tolerate those who disagree with me politically because that's life, full of variety and nuance as much as I may feel I'm right on XYZ topic. But the far right zealots? Anyone who doesn't agree wholeheartedly with their gospel is tinder for the flames.
You can keep the Christian Taliban, I prefer to avoid groups of people who could easily be manipulated into mass murder.
Well let me also add that the liberal will often return to the tactic of ridicule when the weakness of their arguments are exposed. They will hide behind the word science, but never provide scientific data. They will accuse of you of not believing in science, believing the world is flat, but completely ignore all science themselves. A liberal is qualified as a scientist if they watched Through the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman and can repeat random things they heard.
They will also tend to associate people that disagree with them to a hate group, like the Nazi's, or in Spart's case in this example the Taliban. Again, it's ridicule. You can find these tactics in more detail in Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals if you are interested in improving.
In general liberals are rather mean people although they are the ones that preach tolerance. I can go on if you want more reasons why liberals are looked down upon.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2013-07-24 05:57:19
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »I still find it funny that people keep bringing up the skittles, like it makes him innocent. Yeah like thugs don't like candy too. I use skittles and Arizona iced tea as a weapon to rob homes with, but dont tell anybody man!
I don't always burglarize homes but when I do I have Skittles to distract the family dog and an Arizona to melt the locks.
Buy U a Drank? (Watermelon Lean)
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By Siren.Flavin 2013-07-24 08:24:03
Obama should never have made the inflammatory statements he did... That or he should start commenting on all criminal litigation...
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