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Starting a job with 20 inventory spaces. How do you manage your inventory?
Starting a job with 20 inventory spaces. How do you manage your inventory?
By Puppetmaster 2013-07-07 03:46:37
Just don't play SCH. I'm literally @79/80 whenever I play SCH, no matter what I'm doing, and even then there's always a few pieces I *have* to keep in my satchel because there's literally just no room for it and I like to have 1 slot open for drops. The job is inventory hell
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Asura.Tamoa
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By Asura.Tamoa 2013-07-07 04:34:43
Wait what - if I read this correctly, you keep gear for 3 different jobs (including the one you're currently on) in your inventory at all times? How do you even manage that? I can't even fit 1 1/2 jobs worth of gear in my inventory, and that would include jobs that utilize a lot of the same gear.
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By Carbuncle.Funsam 2013-07-07 05:19:21
your cor must suck if you only have 20 gear pieces.
cor u need sets for boosting rols, qd, racc set(high eva mobs), rdmg, (normally a melee set for solo) & normally 2-3 different ws set ups, Last stand, wildfire etc then u have multi bullet type 1 for each ws type ie high attack, high mdmg (r/ex bullet) & bullets for tp'ing & also cards.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-07-07 05:53:26
your cor must suck if you only have 20 gear pieces.
cor u need sets for boosting rols, qd , racc set(high eva mobs), rdmg, (normally a melee set for solo) & normally 2-3 different ws set ups, Last stand, wildfire etc then u have multi bullet type 1 for each ws type ie high attack, high mdmg (r/ex bullet) & bullets for tp'ing & also cards. What about gear such as DT, MDT, PDT and speed +?
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By Ragnarok.Alahra 2013-07-07 09:56:14
Wait what - if I read this correctly, you keep gear for 3 different jobs (including the one you're currently on) in your inventory at all times? How do you even manage that? I can't even fit 1 1/2 jobs worth of gear in my inventory, and that would include jobs that utilize a lot of the same gear.
Assuming bare minimum equipment for each job (16 pieces per), you're looking at 48 inventory spaces. That still leaves 32 slots for equipment swapping, which is enough for two full sets worth of equipment. You won't always have to swap *everything* for a WS or spell, so with gear overlaps, it's possible.
Granted, that means you're out of room for item drops, consumables, and the like, and your gear swaps probably aren't the best they could be.
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By Asura.Tamoa 2013-07-07 10:29:40
Wait what - if I read this correctly, you keep gear for 3 different jobs (including the one you're currently on) in your inventory at all times? How do you even manage that? I can't even fit 1 1/2 jobs worth of gear in my inventory, and that would include jobs that utilize a lot of the same gear.
Assuming bare minimum equipment for each job (16 pieces per), you're looking at 48 inventory spaces. That still leaves 32 slots for equipment swapping, which is enough for two full sets worth of equipment. You won't always have to swap *everything* for a WS or spell, so with gear overlaps, it's possible.
Granted, that means you're out of room for item drops, consumables, and the like, and your gear swaps probably aren't the best they could be.
I know it's possible, I just don't understand how anyone can have so little gear for 3 jobs they obviously use a lot to make the said gear for all 3 jobs fit into their inventory. Personally I use (or used, pre-Delve) smn, whm, rdm, war, sam and drk. That's six jobs. And every single one of them puts me at 70+/80 inventory.
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By Shiva.Malicus 2013-07-07 10:35:40
I personally store all my jobs into Moogle Slips. If you have main jobs you will know what to get for each job and it gets easier the more you do it. This helps with all my storage problems. I would say store all the jobs when your not playing them and this will allow you to build up another job.
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By Ragnarok.Alahra 2013-07-07 10:36:16
Wait what - if I read this correctly, you keep gear for 3 different jobs (including the one you're currently on) in your inventory at all times? How do you even manage that? I can't even fit 1 1/2 jobs worth of gear in my inventory, and that would include jobs that utilize a lot of the same gear.
Assuming bare minimum equipment for each job (16 pieces per), you're looking at 48 inventory spaces. That still leaves 32 slots for equipment swapping, which is enough for two full sets worth of equipment. You won't always have to swap *everything* for a WS or spell, so with gear overlaps, it's possible.
Granted, that means you're out of room for item drops, consumables, and the like, and your gear swaps probably aren't the best they could be.
I know it's possible, I just don't understand how anyone can have so little gear for 3 jobs they obviously use a lot to make the said gear for all 3 jobs fit into their inventory. Personally I use (or used, pre-Delve) smn, whm, rdm, war, sam and drk. That's six jobs. And every single one of them puts me at 70+/80 inventory.
Some people don't gear swap extensively. I know a guy who is relatively new to the game that never learned of Gobbiebags until a couple weeks ago. He played DRK with a TP set and a WS set with only 30 inventory spaces until then.
I'd imagine a lot of folks also don't have full idle, PDT, and MDT sets, either, which adds up to a lot of inventory.
Ragnarok.Afania
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2013-07-07 10:36:52
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
your cor must suck if you only have 20 gear pieces.
cor u need sets for boosting rols, qd , racc set(high eva mobs), rdmg, (normally a melee set for solo) & normally 2-3 different ws set ups, Last stand, wildfire etc then u have multi bullet type 1 for each ws type ie high attack, high mdmg (r/ex bullet) & bullets for tp'ing & also cards. What about gear such as DT, MDT, PDT and speed +?
And refresh MP+ cure potency blah blah if you do delve boss run and /WHM.
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2013-07-07 10:39:54
Honestly. My inventory is killing me.
I want to level an endgame job that performs well with only 1 set of Armor. That's 16 pieces. (I will accept say, up to 4 additional pieces for swapping, so say 20 pieces total).
Any thoughts or ideas? Is this even possible? I already have MNK/BST/PLD/WAR/NIN/WHM/SMN leveled. Can any job be a good candidate for endgame with 20 inventory spaces?
Edit: Let's not make wild assumptions about my commitment level to a job based on this post. I'm merely asking about starting a job with 20 inventory spaces. A few people mentioned some related jobs based on what I have already leveled and how new jobs overlap with gear they already have. Someone also mentioned to use GearCollector. Thanks EVERYONE!
Edit#2: I'm only restricting to 4 gear swaps right now for the sake of argument. A number of people have pointed out that I'm hurting my reputation, but asking this but if that's the case, I won't even pose the argument. Thanks to everyone who posted comments about how they manage their inventory and gear swaps for multiple jobs.
Thanks!
If your goal is to get invite for endgame, sell your NIN gears or send ex/rare to your mule. Then you'd have a lot more inv to properly gear another endgame job and have much better performance. And well geared jobs with proper gear sets gets you more invite overall.
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By Asura.Aineko 2013-07-07 12:09:42
Well, reading your first post, you want a job that performs well in endgame, and you have MNK/WAR/WHM lvl'd (and presumably geared) already. Those jobs perform fairly well in endgame, depending on the event. Unless you're bored with those jobs, you could do quite well by improving them. Whm in particular. Sch can often fill a healer role but Whm still outperforms it in situations where there is large amounts of AoE damage taken. In a lot of alliance based events, it's often beneficial to have one of each.
The only* DD that situationally outperforms MNK and generally outperforms WAR currently would be DRK. Depending on how much overlap with Warrior, you might be able to get away with adding DRK to your list with only 20 more inventory spaces. You certainly wouldn't be able to do it without at least about 30 spaces minimum. Probably closer to 40 if you want to take the job seriously. However, DRK is one job that consistently competes for the top slot as a DD, currently beating out Warrior in many situations and non-Oatixur MNKs. I'm assuming you don't have one of those, since it seems to be currently the best weapon in the game. I know that if I had one of those, I likely wouldn't do any events on any other job for a while.
Aside from that, Brd comes to mind. You likely already have a good cure potency set from Whm, so you could probably get by with just a -song cast time set, and 4 instruments: March, Minuet, Madrigal, and Ballad. Best would be if you could get a lvl 90+ Ghorn if you're concerned about inventory spaces, but those 4 instruments will cover most of what you would need. However, don't expect to perform as well as the serious Brds out there.
Cor comes to mind as another potential option. Sure, if you want to be a top contender for Cor you're gonna need a ton of space. It's similar to mages in that there's a ton of potential gear sets you could need, but it's possible to fill the party buff role with minimal inventory usage. Depending on your server, you might be able to fill that role with a minimal Cor, but you would need to do more research.
Bluntly, to answer your original question though, I don't think it's possible to have a job that functions well in endgame using only 20 inventory slots. However, you can get creative with your gear to reduce your total inventory by picking pieces that are 90%+ optimal but useable for multiple jobs. Delve/Bayld Armor, NNI/Salvage II gear comes to mind immediately. Many of those pieces are best in slot for almost every job that can use them, at least for some very common situation (TP set or WS set mainly).
As for the way I keep my inventory, first I use moogle storage slips. They go a long ways. Next, I keep my Whm/Sch gear in my Storage. I rarely use those jobs, and frankly, my Sch isn't endgame ready. I keep my less-used DD weapons in my Mog safe, as well as the pieces that the moogle won't hold for those jobs. This includes Bst, Nin, and Run gear. I keep my War and Mnk gear in my Mog Satchel. Those are my 2 most used jobs currently. Whichever job I'm actively using, the other is in the satchel. I also keep my proc weapons in there. My sack is where I keep my Thf gear and most of my consumables, as well as my Brd gear that I'm currently collecting. Finally, my locker is where I keep all of my moogle slips and most of my ex items such as Abyssea seals/+2 items, Geodes (gonna prob sell these soon), forgotten items, and stuff like that.
I also have a tendency to hoard old gear. I have one mule for weapons/shields/ranged, one for melee armor/accessories, one for mage armor/accessories, and one for random items. Whenever I start to run low on inventory, I end up sending more gear over to those characters. Sometimes I even pull gear off of them, when I find a new situational use for them (such as during Abyssea, I created an evasion set for my ninja) or when leveling new jobs.
*Yes, I know that there are other jobs that can beat the average War or Mnk. I'm comparing the average Drk I've seen to the the average War, Mnk, and other DD jobs I've seen over the last couple months.
TL/DR: If you are bored with your current jobs, I suggest either Drk or Brd, depending on how much overlap you have with previous jobs' gear.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-07-07 12:12:21
Throw out unnecessary/roleplay gear.
Make a mule and delivery box it if you must save it.
Use storage slips for any job you haven't been on in a week.
Don't collect garbage.
The game's inventory is not limiting any more. You can have every job geared well if you use the storage tools available to you. Lose the tired 2006 no-space crying.
Also, if you must be 79/80, you're probably carrying a whole lot of ***that gives marginal improvements or isn't necessary in the first place. Use some common sense: my mages stay below 70/80 geared with meds, and melee below 60. You don't need an autism-tier collection of items, you need the ones that'll make a difference.
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By Leviathan.Andret 2013-07-08 10:39:05
I'd say the only job that can fool around with only 20 pieces of equipments in inventory would be Monk. The whole reason is that Monk damage comes heavily from his normal attacks and his WS damage tends to converge to a similar number as his base damage raises. Monk also only uses 14 instead of 16 slots for gear so you have more breathing room to swap stuff. This means you won't lose as much as other jobs like War or Drk if you don't swap a lot of gear for WS.
In fact, if you play minimalist Mnk then you probably only need 14 pieces to wear and leave the other 6 pieces for counterstance/pdt and still doing ok.
Another job would be Whm. You might not be the best but still generally effective as a Whm if you only have minimal gear swapping. You have 15 slots for gear and only need to swap out about 3-5 pieces between refresh idle sets and cure sets. No fast cast set for esuna and obvious no pdt set.
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By Fenrir.Motenten 2013-07-09 12:28:44
Mnk can get away with 20 items for general tooling around.
TP:
Rigors/Oatixur
Potestas
Usukane +1 head
Asperity Necklace
Bladeborn/Steelflash Earrings
Thaumas Coat
Melee Gloves +2
Rajas
Epona's
Atheling
Black Belt
Manibozho Brais
Usukane +1 feet
WS:
gorget
Thurandaut head
Thurandaut hands
Manibozho body
Caudata Belt
Thaumas feet
Once you need to start performing well in endgame, though, you need a lot more. An accuracy set (3-5 items), JA boosting gear (AF and Relic, 5 more items), PDT/MDT sets (7 items), HP gear (4-5 items), Regen gear for idle (4-5 items), and of course movement feet.
Most DD jobs are fairly similar: A basic TP set and WS set (not necessarily optimal, but enough that additional swaps are very minor improvements) would take 20-25 items, and then you start adding in all the situational gear. The basics are enough to perform reasonably well as long as you don't need to go outside your comfort zone, but aren't enough to do "well" in endgame-level battles.
As long as you aren't doing anything more difficult than delve fodder farming (which is pretty much everything in the game aside from Delve and Wildkeeper NMs/bosses, and some of Legion), then managing within ~20 inventory spots is doable.
The mage side is somewhat similar. Most of your gear is dedicated to your primary purpose (eg: healing for whm, nuking for blm, etc), plus a few pieces for idle refresh. After that, work on improving things like fast cast sets, and secondary roles (eg: enfeebling on whm, nuking on rdm, etc). Once again, sufficient for non-stressful use, but nowhere near enough to be "endgame worthy".
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2013-07-09 12:37:46
I totally expected someone to have said THF: Thief's Knife, Assassin's Armlet's +2 and Raider's Feet +2. 3/80 and you're set.
But don't you need to hit the mob to add on TH?
Or is TH past 7 not worth it?
SA can't miss.
Honestly. My inventory is killing me.
I want to level an endgame job that performs well with only 1 set of Armor. That's 16 pieces. (I will accept say, up to 4 additional pieces for swapping, so say 20 pieces total).
Any thoughts or ideas? Is this even possible? I already have MNK/BST/PLD/WAR/NIN/WHM/SMN leveled. Can any job be a good candidate for endgame with 20 inventory spaces?
Edit: Let's not make wild assumptions about my commitment level to a job based on this post. I'm merely asking about starting a job with 20 inventory spaces. A few people mentioned some related jobs based on what I have already leveled and how new jobs overlap with gear they already have. Someone also mentioned to use GearCollector. Thanks EVERYONE!
Edit#2: I'm only restricting to 4 gear swaps right now for the sake of argument. A number of people have pointed out that I'm hurting my reputation, but asking this but if that's the case, I won't even pose the argument. Thanks to everyone who posted comments about how they manage their inventory and gear swaps for multiple jobs.
Thanks!
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