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By Hades.Caspin 2009-07-03 10:21:40
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Cool, now its worth it to carry around my Reaction arm, but no more free blood warps...
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By Odin.Blazza 2009-07-03 10:24:39
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You still die with mijin gakure, but if someone raises you you won't be weak and will have 50% HP
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-07-03 10:30:26
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Instead of doing 5 damage when you're about to die, Mijin Gakure will now be a chance to deal 5 damage and then be raised with half of your HP. Nice XD

The concepts are nice, but the fact that the effect decays over the length of the JA is kinda meh.
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By Kujata.Daus 2009-07-03 10:46:07
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Composure is pretty damn awesome, no complaints here :D


same
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By Odin.Blazza 2009-07-03 10:53:30
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Daus said:
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Composure is pretty damn awesome, no complaints here :D


same

Well that makes you two not stupid... But trust me, there are idiots out there that have done nothing but *** and moan about the rdm update.
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By Unicorn.Excesspain 2009-07-03 11:00:14
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*WHM starts casting Raise*

50% cast time NIN Blows up, raised in seconds, reestablish hate. lol
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-07-03 11:03:25
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You can cast Raise on someone who's not dead?
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-07-03 11:04:38
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as far as Im concerned, NIN needs to keep the hate, not lose it, so that first JA is a blessing.
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By Shiva.Velito 2009-07-03 11:05:39
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Blazza said:
Daus said:
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Composure is pretty damn awesome, no complaints here :D


same

Well that makes you two not stupid... But trust me, there are idiots out there that have done nothing but *** and moan about the rdm update.


Most of those complainers were bitching about enspell IIs not having an effect on dual-wielding or double attack, and some others were just general "waah waah why can we still not melee as well as samurais, nuke as well as black mages and tank as well as paladins, bawwww"

I honestly don't get why anyone would *** about composure.
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By Fenrir.Thandar 2009-07-03 11:08:04
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Yeah, composure is the ***, I don't know what other RDM's are bitching about it for, I like having to cast Refresh and Haste on me, once every 5~ minutes, and then reuse, and repeat, it's awesome, and if you can't recast Haste and Refresh when it wears, be a WHM.
And now, maybe I'll finish NIN.
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By Gilgamesh.Alyria 2009-07-03 11:11:46
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Interesting update for NIN...I really hope the newbie nin's know what these abilities do when they are the tank in pt XD

Anyone notice that the graphic affect looks like a baby teething ring >.>
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-07-03 11:14:30
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if I had a kid, I would have noticed. Looked more like a neon colored donut.
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By Remora.Dubont 2009-07-03 11:15:17
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Omg nin update!!! I think this is really awesome (even aside from the 2hr ^^) This finally splits ninja into 2 distinct roles in a party. Instead of everyone saying "Oh ninja IS a tank" or "ninja cant tank lulz tis DD", they can now say "Ninja can tank or DD" and people can now play it how they want...and anyone who *** at them for w/e they play is obviously a childish wowfag.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-07-03 11:20:06
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Velito said:
Blazza said:
Daus said:
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Composure is pretty damn awesome, no complaints here :D


same

Well that makes you two not stupid... But trust me, there are idiots out there that have done nothing but *** and moan about the rdm update.


Most of those complainers were bitching about enspell IIs not having an effect on dual-wielding or double attack, and some others were just general "waah waah why can we still not melee as well as samurais, nuke as well as black mages and tank as well as paladins, bawwww"

I honestly don't get why anyone would *** about composure.

Did someone say rdm!?! Compared to this composure is completely weak. Yes enspell2 is rediculously fail. The real problem with composure is in pt setting. It forces you to do all your buffs at once and if you have to do other stuff and do it often that can kinda hurt cause of the cast/recast penalties. And with all the other stuff going on on your chat log its much much easier to miss buff cycles for melees since you cant use yourself as the first person on it. Back to nin goddamn that first ability is insane tanking... who cares if it lowers accuracy you aint even using kat endgame anyways... yes in pt it might hurt a little boohoo. And the other one... lol might see good DD nin now.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Wilfightforbeer 2009-07-03 11:20:56
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I really like this update for NIN been soooo long and finally i has JA~!!!!!!!!! no more opening my JA menu's and staring at the useless mijin gakure @-@. Oh also love the update to the 2hr.
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By Odin.Blazza 2009-07-03 11:21:22
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told ya
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-07-03 11:21:22
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You guys just had to bring up RDM...

Hey Dasva, knew you'd join the fun soon enough.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-07-03 11:23:54
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Blazza said:
told ya

Nightfyre said:
You guys just had to bring up RDM...

Hey Dasva, knew you'd join the fun soon enough.

Your fault for bringing it up... hell I'm on vacation just happened to catch you bashing rdms... damn haters.
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By Remora.Dubont 2009-07-03 11:24:50
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so..how many people think that the "DD nin update" will actually get used.....by anyone but me?
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-07-03 11:26:06
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If I actually played nin I'd use them. I think ever endgame tanking nin would use the defensive one full time. And you might even see nins 2hr for more then warping now.
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By Odin.Blazza 2009-07-03 11:33:43
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lol, only thing I hate about rdm is the fact that it sucks balls at low levels, which I'm currently trying to get it through -_-
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By Kujata.Mikrik 2009-07-03 11:36:21
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well i think it sounds like a very good update, SE are actually thinking about nin as a tank, lets face it we have 0 JA's, and crappy things to spend merits on, pld have sentinal, shield bash, rampart, cover....... then merits like chivalry, rampart and sentinal buffs.

Kudos SE, its about time i say!!
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-07-03 11:37:04
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Well if you melee rdm you can just outlast most mobs which is nice. Just thought about this increased ninjitsu dmg from behind could be insane... san spells already do decent dmg cast real fast and no tp given... with this might be able to do dmg faster then a blm with no mp needed while lowering resistances... and the damn ability comes with -emnity.
As far as nin need things to tank well really when it comes to endgame ja hate spells are lame.and /drk gives nin alot better hate tools then pld/nin could ever dream of. This just makes it more insane.
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By Remora.Dubont 2009-07-03 11:37:34
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Mikrik said:
well i think it sounds like a very good update, SE are actually thinking about nin as a tank, lets face it we have 0 JA's, and crappy things to spend merits on, pld have sentinal, shield bash, rampart, cover....... then merits like chivalry, rampart and sentinal buffs.

Kudos SE, its about time i say!!


this update isnt just for tanking. Like i said, it splits nin into the 2 different roles that people play as and allows to distinctly play that role.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-07-03 11:39:51
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Dasva said:
Blazza said:
told ya

Nightfyre said:
You guys just had to bring up RDM...

Hey Dasva, knew you'd join the fun soon enough.

Your fault for bringing it up... hell I'm on vacation just happened to catch you bashing rdms... damn haters.

Bashing? What?

I love RDM, look at my job list >_> {Refresh} {Yes, please.} Blazza's right though, getting RDM to 37 was a pain...

Side note, apparently the crit rate bonus on Yonin translates as crit rate taken in French or something. Makes more sense than crit+ when you're getting an acc reduction lol.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-07-03 11:42:20
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I love RDM, look at my job list >_> {Refresh} {Yes, please.} Blazza's right though, getting RDM to 37 was a pain...

I became a blm more or less to get to 37 with enough int you can nuke just as good at taht lvl. And idk call me crazy but I'd like the security of knowing that if I lost 1 single spell or ja that someone somewhere would still want me for anything. Enhance refresh to keep up with brd and cor refresh potential yes please
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By Odin.Blazza 2009-07-03 11:43:04
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Would be interesting to see if nin/blm now has a place in end-game
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By Remora.Dubont 2009-07-03 11:44:58
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Blazza said:
Would be interesting to see if nin/blm now has a place in end-game


once i get 75 then you will def see this happening with me lol
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-07-03 11:52:14
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Dasva said:
Nightfyre said:
I love RDM, look at my job list >_> {Refresh} {Yes, please.} Blazza's right though, getting RDM to 37 was a pain...

I became a blm more or less to get to 37 with enough int you can nuke just as good at taht lvl. And idk call me crazy but I'd like the security of knowing that if I lost 1 single spell or ja that someone somewhere would still want me for anything. Enhance refresh to keep up with brd and cor refresh potential yes please

I got to nuke for 1 party, as best I can remember. Every other party I was a gimp WHM... RDM main heal without Refresh just makes me feel dirty >.>;

(To clarify, I don't see RDM as a gimp WHM but main healing before Refresh sure made me feel like one.)
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By Odin.Blazza 2009-07-03 11:53:33
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Dasva said:
Nightfyre said:
I love RDM, look at my job list >_> {Refresh} {Yes, please.} Blazza's right though, getting RDM to 37 was a pain...

I became a blm more or less to get to 37 with enough int you can nuke just as good at taht lvl. And idk call me crazy but I'd like the security of knowing that if I lost 1 single spell or ja that someone somewhere would still want me for anything. Enhance refresh to keep up with brd and cor refresh potential yes please

If you're wanted only for refresh you're doing it wrong... Funny how rdm's are still in high demand for tank parties even if it's nin tank (and not nin/drk). Even without refresh rdm is still a lot more than a glorified whm imo.
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