Matsui: "Don't Throw Away Your R/M/E Weapons Yet"

I don't have a problem with them being useless.

U mean mad over years and hundreds of million of gil ppl spent on one weapon? People who did aren't happy, yes we expect the time and effort to last. Pepople who didn't are cause now they can have a far superior weapon for a fraction of the cost and effort.
And to add insult to injury we will soon be able to just go to the ah and buy a weapon that pwns a 99r/e/m.

Also, when it comes to Matsui's vision, these weapons are probably absolute ***! Yay!! 247 base damage for my Resolution spam! Senbaak is just Adoulinian for "Ascalon" enjoy your piece of shi- oh wait, you guys don't have Senbaak's? Right? That's ok, the Seeker's version of Skofnung is coming out next month, till then, have fun doing pointless and mundane tasks for something you'll never use again after June! Hooray!!

I'm way too lazy for this, I'll skip until they release Naglering.

I'm way too lazy for this, I'll skip until they release Naglering.

Why because I play on 360 and you cant see what I have ?

No, it's because nothing in this game is an accomplishment.

No, it's because nothing in this game is an accomplishment anymore.

If you're still only complaining about your own personal investment in whatever RMEs you made, you may be missing the larger issues that the last update created.

Cerberus lost all Ceizak bivouacs at one point over the weekend. It was like "Oh right, those exist still".

This. Personally, I also took issue with the fact that he basically said "at least you made some memories." It's practically an admission that they never had any real intent to keep R/M/E viable.

I guess after 88 pages I feel like saying my own opinion..

It is one thing to ***all over the gear of previous content, but in essence, it is the content itself that is being ***all over. Dynamis came out years and years ago, but people still do it. Why? Because it leads, or led to badass-ness. Same as Salvage, and even Abyssea, it is a lure for people and for some people, that is what kept them playing. Now when you really consider it, the name of the game is, "play adoulin or you're wasting your time because the other gear is complete ***."

/endrant.

I thought Abyssea and the level caps removal of a lot of battlefields/Crags defecated all over the game already...

This thread makes me smile, see y'all on ARR !

No, just no. Tanaka did no such thing.

The guy lived in his own world and had his own vision of "how things worked" regardless of the way the player base played. If the player base found a way to enjoy the game in a way he didn't intend then there would be hell to pay. According to Tanaka we all logged in to COSPLAY for a few hours each day. He's brilliant at designing single player console MMO's because a single cohesive linear experience is what you want on a game that once released won't be changed. It's the exact opposite of what you want in a dynamic game that's expected to evolve and grow over time. FFXI suffered a large decline in player base (and FFXIV failed) because Tanaka refused to understand that MMORPG's work off a service model instead of a production model.

What happened is simple, the game was stuck at 75 for a very long time with everything being side grades and Tanaka refusing to allow any form of change into this sandbox. Then he gets pulled away for FFXIV and FFXI largely falls to other people for creative content control, they create Abyssea and everything gets upgraded to level 90. Gear, stats, weapons, everything goes ~up~. FFXIV crash's and Tanaka's pulled back to look over FFXI, notice his sandbox has been destroyed & smashed. He gets pissed (remember that interview) and sets out to "adjust" FFXI back into this idea of a game. That was the 95~99 raise where everything seemed a large sidegrade with insane amounts of grinding and limited progress. Voidwatch, NNI, Salvage II, those are all Tanaka era projects. Matsui shows up due to Tanaka's forced retirement and has since been trying to unf8ck FFXI but can't just hit the undo button. This involves creating a new level 90~99 power evolution rather then the glorified side-grades that existed before. That's what your all seeing right now, a proper 90~99 power increase. Of course he made the tactical error of thinking people would just forget about the insane levels of grinding Tanaka made them do for their 99 RMEs, that mistake is whats causing the stir.

If you're still only complaining about your own personal investment in whatever RMEs you made, you may be missing the larger issues that the last update created.

Well said.

No doubt. For those of you who haven't progressed through all five stages of grief yet, here's a list of things you should really be more concerned about:

- The destruction of the weapon economy (currency/alex/HMP/rift*) will have ramifications for everyone, even if it's not how you personally earn gil
- The complete invalidation of most of the game's content, to focus on one narrow event (and remove one of XI's true strengths)
- The lack of planning involved in rendering obsolete an event they introduced last week
- Who pushes out a world-altering patch right before the whole country goes on vacation for a week, anyway
- The shift to a WoW style gear treadmill that FFXI does not have the resources to do correctly (and would be a bad plan even if they did, given the game's age and population)
- The tone-deaf responses from the developers, indicating they don't even know why we're mad or how to fix it

Obviously, this isn't all-inclusive, but if you're wondering why some people are mad who don't seem to care that they had weapon(s) sent to the scrap heap, that's part of why.

Just to point out, NNI was far from a grind, and was by-far more than side-grades. Salvage2 is grinding, but ultimately that gear does have some pretty good usage (though I'm not sure with new content).

No, it's because nothing in this game is an accomplishment.

proof where? maybe if we compare weapons only,

pretty easy to substantiate my argument, pre-adoulin how many people were still wearing af3+2?

Hp/mp/base stats scaled horribly from 75->99. the only thing that scales correctly was skill level. (could argue otherwise even still, but since they promised more merit upgrades and increased some caps i won't.)

Idk maybe i just had higher hopes for level 99 when i first heard of the level cap increase than you.

After they placed the stopper into NNI JP players did form actual strategies to consistently beat NNI without fleehacks/clipper/mappy/voicechat etc. (Couple EN groups did this too) Even if the devs did play the endgame we'd still probably get screwed half the time because JPs have formed large alliances through shouts for a long time now (They used to do it with Dynamis, they did it with VW/Legion, and they'll do it with Delve). VW was the odd exception to this for EN players (with numerous hilarious results in gimp picture threads) because VWs were laughably easy as long as you hit procs.

One thing that's always kinda baffled me about XI is how crappy PUGs tend to be. Other MMOs like WoW have PUGs form all the time and they work just fine (Stuff like ilevel/an actually useful status window/ingame gearlinks probably help). The game would really benefit from a redone seacom/bulletin board system, IMO.

Well that and the status window thing. I really hope that UI redux will display things like accuracy/gearhaste/whatever.