Matsui: "Don't Throw Away Your R/M/E Weapons Yet"
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Matsui: "Don't throw away your R/M/E weapons yet"
suck it up ***will always come out better and whos to say they arent planning to bring out more trials to gt ur r/m/e better then the new weapons are now relax se has a plan and remember they hate us
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Sylph.Mirvana said: » Post count: 1 Contents: Herp derp run-on sentence Opinion reaction: Ignored You have earned this +1. Sjaii said: » suck it up ***will always come out better and whos to say they arent planning to bring out more trials to gt ur r/m/e better then the new weapons are now relax se has a plan and remember they hate us SE, SE said they aren't.
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Sjaii said: » suck it up ***will always come out better and whos to say they arent planning to bring out more trials to gt ur r/m/e better then the new weapons are now relax se has a plan and remember they hate us Sjaii said: » ng to bring out more trials to gt ur r/m/e better then the new weapons are now relax se has a plan and Sjaii said: » are now relax se has Sjaii said: » relax se Sjaii said: » rela xse Sjaii said: » real sex 
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You know... It suddenly makes sense why SE has been so scared of PLD.
In the grand scheme of things, when you're working together with your DD and hate isn't an issue... PLD is basically immortal. Short of one-shot tricks like Death, there isn't much that's going to down a PLD with a healer. I'm hearing that SAMs are SATA Kaiten'ing the PLDs and the PLDs are eating every bit the NMs can throw at them, and shells are able to bypass the need for Skirmish weapons because the moving adamantium walls that are PLDs are facilitating a means of winning Delve. Also: REVENGE OF THE PALADINS
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Cerberus.Alerith said: » You know... It suddenly makes sense why SE has been so scared of PLD. In the grand scheme of things, when you're working together with your DD and hate isn't an issue... PLD is basically immortal. Short of one-shot tricks like Death, there isn't much that's going to down a PLD with a healer. I'm hearing that SAMs are SATA Kaiten'ing the PLDs and the PLDs are eating every bit the NMs can throw at them, and shells are able to bypass the need for Skirmish weapons because the moving adamantium walls that are PLDs are facilitating a means of winning Delve. Also: REVENGE OF THE PALADINS For the most part yes. However, they can get 1 shot here and there.
Lakshmi.Feint said: » For the most part yes. However, they can get 1 shot here and there. Indeed. I don't mean to imply they are completely unkillable. But it is very clear that PLD still exceeds beyond expectations at what it does when given the opportunity to do so. Cerberus.Alerith said: » You know... It suddenly makes sense why SE has been so scared of PLD. In the grand scheme of things, when you're working together with your DD and hate isn't an issue... PLD is basically immortal. Short of one-shot tricks like Death, there isn't much that's going to down a PLD with a healer. I'm hearing that SAMs are SATA Kaiten'ing the PLDs and the PLDs are eating every bit the NMs can throw at them, and shells are able to bypass the need for Skirmish weapons because the moving adamantium walls that are PLDs are facilitating a means of winning Delve. Also: REVENGE OF THE PALADINS What you heard is not the whole picture. A huge reason why many inexperienced groups are running into raged monsters is because of your mentioned tactic's. There is no argument from me that paladin is the best at reducing damage taken but why use an alliance spot that could result in more damage done to the NM by allowing a superior DPS job(s) to do the tanking, this definitely applies to any T5 NM. In my opinion paladin is back to crowd control (Fracture Point farming) and is possible safety net for some of the delve Naakual's. I am almost certain that soon you will be seeing Naakual's being burned down by dds maximizing there damage output (not thief sub). P.S. Welcome back to to the FFXI Samurai Quote: What I wished to convey was that we will be implementing a system to build on R/M/E weapons, so please have them in your possession, and there was no other meaning intended. In regards to this system, the outline has been finished; however, we have yet to test if what we have planned can be realized and if we can secure the proper amount of manpower to continue it. We are at a point in time right now where it's difficult to explain the details, so please allow us to discuss this another day. Why do people continue to cry about their R/E/M being gimped compared to new weapons, when SE clearly stated they will be bringing in a system to upgrade them?? I got my first relic a couple of days before Seekers came out, and got it to 95 a few days before SE announced the latest update, and it doesn't bother me whatsoever. If they had done it before bringing out the new weapons, the damage values may have been way too low, or so high that the new weapons become totally useless. Just chill people.  10000 RP, an a drop from the fracture nakuul megaboss to upgrade rems, something like that would be good.
Cerberus.Kylos said: » Why do people continue to cry about their R/E/M being gimped compared to new weapons, when SE clearly stated they will be bringing in a system to upgrade them?? SE said: Hello, Matsui here. We've been receiving some questions in regards to what we will be doing with relic, mythic, and empyrean weapons moving forward, so I would like to address what I can at the moment. We are not planning to enhance relic, mythic, or empyrean weapons via Trial of the Magians or through other methods. However, in regards to these weapons that you have enhanced up to level 99, we are formulating plans so that they do not go to waste. Because they say 1) they're not planning on making any system to upgrade R/M/E, and 2) the second part of what he says may as well be 'we're trying to think of a way these updated weapons won't go to waste, but we got nothing so far, and we're about 4 years behind on friggin Avatars we were supposed to release, so don't hold your breath.' It doesn't exactly inspire confidence that their upcoming plan (if they have one) will fix the mess they made. I didn't see that other message. However, I would expect an upgrade to R/E/M in at least six months, specially when the majority of players stop using/building them, because they want areas like Dynamis, Abyssea and Salvage to be used, because they released/upgraded them in the last few years, and by not upgrading R/E/M, those areas will be very sparse, and everyone will just do Seekers and nothing else which I am sure they do not want.
Don't take those messages so literally, they just don't want to come out and say, "This relic will be this damage as of this date", because they have not completed the system yet. They say something is being done, but they ain't going to be upgraded? If they were not going to get any kind of upgrade, why would they give any hint of false hope? "However, in regards to these weapons that you have enhanced up to level 99, we are formulating plans so that they do not go to waste." If they truly were NOT going to upgrade R/E/M, this sentence would have been left out. Because they've proposed stupid non-solutions like allowing you to use the Empyrean/Relic WS if you got an Empyrean/Relic. Technically the Empyrean/Relic is still doing "Something" for you, buuuuut...
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That second statement would fall in line with their proposal of allowing the WS to be used on the nonR/M/E/H weapons. The same proposal that set the rage-fire ablaze when it was just a simmering ember of uncertainty.
I hope SE enjoyed their Golden Week. Lucy got some 'splainin' to do. Oh so I get to use Quietus on any weapon I please? Wooopdy doo.
Anyway, it was just a proposal, they will figure something out, or lots of players will /ragequit. That's been the general idea... For 70+ pages across multiple forums. lol
Welcome to the party. Cerberus.Alerith said: » You know... It suddenly makes sense why SE has been so scared of PLD. In the grand scheme of things, when you're working together with your DD and hate isn't an issue... PLD is basically immortal. Short of one-shot tricks like Death, there isn't much that's going to down a PLD with a healer. I'm hearing that SAMs are SATA Kaiten'ing the PLDs and the PLDs are eating every bit the NMs can throw at them, and shells are able to bypass the need for Skirmish weapons because the moving adamantium walls that are PLDs are facilitating a means of winning Delve. Also: REVENGE OF THE PALADINS I was away from the game over the weekend and only just looked up the SE forums. I have not talked to anyone in the game about this either, so its all news to me.
They could just make a new "dynamis" type zone (Or just totally redo Skirmish) so we can upgrade R/E/M 99s base damage once we got decent high damaging weapons and decent gear from Delve/AH. In this manner, those players who went out of their way to get R/E/M 99s will end up being on top again while other, more casual players who never had the time to make R/E/M can still get a decent weapon if they work hard enough. A new area similar to dynamis where certain items drop that are used to upgrade 99s? Also NMs in the area that drop an item 100% (like papers/attestations) that linkshells can farm to get all their weapons fully upgraded. Also new JSE gear could be introduced, and although it would trump standard afv2 (and some afv3) it won't matter as much, so long as players can get rewards by helping their ls/friends get upgraded 99s. Cerberus.Kylos said: » I was away from the game over the weekend and only just looked up the SE forums. I have not talked to anyone in the game about this either, so its all news to me. They could just make a new "dynamis" type zone (Or just totally redo Skirmish) so we can upgrade R/E/M 99s base damage once we got decent high damaging weapons and decent gear from Delve/AH. In this manner, those players who went out of their way to get R/E/M 99s will end up being on top again while other, more casual players who never had the time to make R/E/M can still get a decent weapon if they work hard enough. A new area similar to dynamis where certain items drop that are used to upgrade 99s? Also NMs in the area that drop an item 100% (like papers/attestations) that linkshells can farm to get all their weapons fully upgraded. Also new JSE gear could be introduced, and although it would trump standard afv2 (and some afv3) it won't matter as much, so long as players can get rewards by helping their ls/friends get upgraded 99s. I don't know if it's a good idea but it's obviously too early for SE to upgrade REM. Some bosses haven't be released in Delve I think : The stronger forms of scythe and GS do not appear in known items yet while there are the stronger forms of H2H, Dagger, sword and GK already. But, we haven't figure out how to kill the bosses and what could be their weaknesses. Oh yes, I didn't mean to come across that I wanted this implemented in a weeks time or whatever, more like four to twelve months depending on how the content is going. Yes players with R/E/M may have to go without using them once they get a new weapon for a little bit, but ultimately it would come back round to restoring R/E/M to their former glory.
With these new weapons, it would make farming Dynamis for currency and Umbrals much easier as well, as well as easier Empyrean farming. The 90-99 stages will become secondary to the new content that would upgrade the 99s to a decent level of damage over the newer weapons. It's the only way I can think of doing it, because rushing it would just mean more time spent fixing problems, whereas taking too long will just annoy more people. I cant see anything happening with REM till all the Naakauls and zones have been added. Delve will probably then be updated with the remaining naakauls we may then see some proper updates on the REMs. After the initial rage subsided I see the unlocking of the ws a temporary fix until they have worked out what event/system is going to be used.
Edit: theres missions to be released too if WoTG and ToAU are anything to go with we have had 8/40+ missions.
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Yep exactly, if they are to upgrade them, they need to wait til everything is released and people have done a decent amount of the content. Then they can see where everyone is at in terms of damage and survivability, and adjust the r/e/m accordingly.
People are just going to have to be patient and have faith that SE will bring their R/E/M back, because spending that much time and money should be rewarded in the long run.
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i dont see why people are crying over mythic's/relics/empy's being bad after this update i dont remember everyone and their mom's with relic and mythic's back then so whats the big deal? Just stop crying about it you wont get anywhere by typing all the ***up and who doesn't want to unlock empy ws on a Higher base Weapon damage and not everyone will own a 99 empy. Iam hoping SE adds new auguments on those 99 E/M/R that will take a year to upgrade
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Cerberus.Kylos said: » Yep exactly, if they are to upgrade them, they need to wait til everything is released and people have done a decent amount of the content. Then they can see where everyone is at in terms of damage and survivability, and adjust the r/e/m accordingly. People are just going to have to be patient and have faith that SE will bring their R/E/M back, because spending that much time and money should be rewarded in the long run. Sadly after the lat 8 years and a failed FFXIV and many empty/unfulfilled promises faith is the last thing i have in SE even if matsui is legitimately trying much unlike tanaka.
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Bahamut.Jaggerjack said: » i dont see why people are crying over mythic's/relics/empy's being bad after this update i dont remember everyone and their mom's with relic and mythic's back then so whats the big deal? Just stop crying about it you wont get anywhere by typing all the ***up and who doesn't want to unlock empy ws on a Higher base Weapon damage and not everyone will own a 99 empy. Iam hoping SE adds new auguments on those 99 E/M/R that will take a year to upgrade I have no idea what your point was. Do you? Stop murdering the English language and the UAE's reputation, please.
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