Bleh got the gist of the argument but really haven't read the whole thread my only deal with R/M/E is that they made them so HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE to obtain in the first place.
If they don't want to keep them up to date (i know they said they were but) who just plain want to build them they ought to lower the requirements.
As far as not having to do anything, so far when the level cap increases came they forced peeps to jump through hoops to upgrade their relics further.
anyways just my 2cents, not going to lie owning an annihilator 95 am slightly annoyed at this turn of events just because i made it to own the best gun in the game /sigh
Matsui: "Don't Throw Away Your R/M/E Weapons Yet"
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Matsui: "Don't throw away your R/M/E weapons yet"
I keep seeing "Currency/Alex prices are dropping" and "People have stopped building" on the OFs, due to some mod's *** hurting over God knows what, I can't post on the OFs at the moment, but FFS dont give up, keep building. If no one is building, if we don't complete these weapons and keep letting them know we don't want them to be obsolete, they have less of a reason to boost them.
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Phoenix.Kojo said: » I keep seeing "Currency/Alex prices are dropping" and "People have stopped building" on the OFs, due to some mod's *** hurting over God knows what, I can't post on the OFs at the moment, but FFS dont give up, keep building. If no one is building, if we don't complete these weapons and keep letting them know we don't want them to be obsolete, they have less of a reason to boost them. Sorry, that's an awful idea. SE will do whatever SE wants. If the mass of players doesn't get a response, 50 or 200 more people (across all servers) isn't going to inspire differently. In fact, continuing to complete weapons for their offensive capability might inspire SE to think things are fine and the weapons are still desirable. It's like the guy who created a post to ask whether he should finish his vere 85 (oops, vere, not masa) or... delve into Delve. Hurt aside, there's only one choice. Noone's saying throw your currency or partially completed weapons away, but at the moment, unless you're wielding Yagrush, see what SoA has to offer you. Valefor.Omnys said: » Phoenix.Kojo said: » I keep seeing "Currency/Alex prices are dropping" and "People have stopped building" on the OFs, due to some mod's *** hurting over God knows what, I can't post on the OFs at the moment, but FFS dont give up, keep building. If no one is building, if we don't complete these weapons and keep letting them know we don't want them to be obsolete, they have less of a reason to boost them. Sorry, that's an awful idea. SE will do whatever SE wants. If the mass of players doesn't get a response, 50 or 200 more people (across all servers) isn't going to inspire differently. In fact, continuing to complete weapons for their offensive capability might inspire SE to think things are fine and the weapons are still desirable. It's like the guy who created a post to ask whether he should finish his vere 85 (oops, vere, not masa) or... delve into Delve. Hurt aside, there's only one choice. Noone's saying throw your currency or partially completed weapons away, but at the moment, unless you're wielding Yagrush, see what SoA has to offer you. If they fall out of favor, SE is likely to just not worry about it. The biggest thing for me is i don't want all that time i spent making a weapon to be a waste (i know its a waste in real life, but its not in the game) Even if RME is 5% less then new weapons, i would be ok with that. I know some say they didn't nerf them they are just as good, but the problem is i'm a dd for my linkshell. If i don't get the new weapons they will no longer bring me as a dd, because i will be weak compared to the DD's who did. All i'm asking is my weapon i worked hard for will still be competitive.
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skyehope928 said: » Se please use your stop being dumb thank 7 Every time I see one of your posts in this thread it's nothing but quality.
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Phoenix.Kojo said: » I keep seeing "Currency/Alex prices are dropping" and "People have stopped building" on the OFs, due to some mod's *** hurting over God knows what, I can't post on the OFs at the moment, but FFS dont give up, keep building. If no one is building, if we don't complete these weapons and keep letting them know we don't want them to be obsolete, they have less of a reason to boost them. This is probably true. Back in the day, people were looking for SMN improvements, and SE's attitude was that they'd do that if more people were playing SMN. 'course, that was from Sundi, but still. Quetzalcoatl.Bryangelos said: » The biggest thing for me is i don't want all that time i spent making a weapon to be a waste (i know its a waste in real life, but its not in the game) Even if RME is 5% less then new weapons, i would be ok with that. I know some say they didn't nerf them they are just as good, but the problem is i'm a dd for my linkshell. If i don't get the new weapons they will no longer bring me as a dd, because i will be weak compared to the DD's who did. All i'm asking is my weapon i worked hard for will still be competitive. For the people who built them long ago, it's even less of a waste as they got to use their weapons and achieve stuff. Hell my relics aren't that old and I'm still happy of what I did with them, no matter how irrelevant it was. Lakshmi.Watusa said: » skyehope928 said: » Se please use your stop being dumb thank 7 Every time I see one of your posts in this thread it's nothing but quality. You go, girl. Phoenix.Kojo said: » I keep seeing "Currency/Alex prices are dropping" and "People have stopped building" on the OFs, due to some mod's *** hurting over God knows what, I can't post on the OFs at the moment, but FFS dont give up, keep building. If no one is building, if we don't complete these weapons and keep letting them know we don't want them to be obsolete, they have less of a reason to boost them. I am still making Apoc. I'm gonna stick it to the man.
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Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » The time you spent making them you were playing and having fun, therefore it's not a waste. For the people who built them long ago, it's even less of a waste as they got to use their weapons and achieve stuff. Hell my relics aren't that old and I'm still happy of what I did with them, no matter how irrelevant it was. In your eyes it may not be a waste, daily dynamis farming got old fast but i figured the weapon i was building would stay competitive for the duration of the game. So even though it was a grind to get these weapons, for me it was worth it knowing it would be good for the games duration. Since they no longer are, and i didn't have fun building them, in my eyes it was in fact a waste.
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Quetzalcoatl.Bryangelos said: » In your eyes it may not be a waste, daily dynamis farming got old fast but i figured the weapon i was building would stay competitive for the duration of the game. So even though it was a grind to get these weapons, for me it was worth it knowing it would be good for the games duration. Since they no longer are, and i didn't have fun building them, in my eyes it was in fact a waste. I think the problem is that you are willing to pay X amount of money to a company for a product that you don't enjoy playing. Keep dropin them currency prices =D , faster my relics will get done.
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They're saying that the slog and grind wasn't fun in itself, but the weapon being awesome would have made the trek worth it. When you take away the incentive of "awesome weapon-light at the end of the tunnel" it's makes that all for naught.
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Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » Quetzalcoatl.Bryangelos said: » In your eyes it may not be a waste, daily dynamis farming got old fast but i figured the weapon i was building would stay competitive for the duration of the game. So even though it was a grind to get these weapons, for me it was worth it knowing it would be good for the games duration. Since they no longer are, and i didn't have fun building them, in my eyes it was in fact a waste. I think the problem is that you are willing to pay X amount of money to a company for a product that you don't enjoy playing. So because i made my weapons the fastest way i knew how, doing daily dynamis (which i didn't enjoy) yet i had fun using that weapon in the other events my ls did. That means i didn't enjoy the game at all? what your saying is because i didn't like one event i had to do to get my weapon i don't enjoy playing at all? Is it at all possible we simply think different and to you farming dynamis is fun so you don't care your weapon now sucks, and to me it wasn't so i feel my time is wasted?
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Ragnarok.Hotkarl said: » Keep dropin them currency prices =D , faster my relics will get done. I notice that but problem is ppl going stop farm currency cause price is down.Namis almost empty last night I went with friend >.> Fenrir.Thandar said: » Phoenix.Kojo said: » I keep seeing "Currency/Alex prices are dropping" and "People have stopped building" on the OFs, due to some mod's *** hurting over God knows what, I can't post on the OFs at the moment, but FFS dont give up, keep building. If no one is building, if we don't complete these weapons and keep letting them know we don't want them to be obsolete, they have less of a reason to boost them. I am still making Apoc. I'm gonna stick it to the man. Word up! That's a good thing, I'll take A. Dirt cheap currency, Or B. quiet dyna without bst(herpes outbreak if ff11) running wild clogging up the camps.
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Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » Quetzalcoatl.Bryangelos said: » In your eyes it may not be a waste, daily dynamis farming got old fast but i figured the weapon i was building would stay competitive for the duration of the game. So even though it was a grind to get these weapons, for me it was worth it knowing it would be good for the games duration. Since they no longer are, and i didn't have fun building them, in my eyes it was in fact a waste. I think the problem is that you are willing to pay X amount of money to a company for a product that you don't enjoy playing. I'm enjoying playing this game though I find dynamis boring as hell to farm currencies. But, I'm doing this annoying content to enjoy this game more. Quetzalcoatl.Bryangelos said: » Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » Quetzalcoatl.Bryangelos said: » In your eyes it may not be a waste, daily dynamis farming got old fast but i figured the weapon i was building would stay competitive for the duration of the game. So even though it was a grind to get these weapons, for me it was worth it knowing it would be good for the games duration. Since they no longer are, and i didn't have fun building them, in my eyes it was in fact a waste. I think the problem is that you are willing to pay X amount of money to a company for a product that you don't enjoy playing. So because i made my weapons the fastest way i knew how, doing daily dynamis (which i didn't enjoy) yet i had fun using that weapon in the other events my ls did. That means i didn't enjoy the game at all? what your saying is because i didn't like one event i had to do to get my weapon i don't enjoy playing at all? Is it at all possible we simply think different and to you farming dynamis is fun so you don't care your weapon now sucks, and to me it wasn't so i feel my time is wasted? You made a weapon, you had fun with it. The purpose of your weapon, your own goal, both have been achieved. You can't play a MMO and expect a situation to last forever, this is a basic of MMOs. Cerberus.Detzu said: » Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » Quetzalcoatl.Bryangelos said: » In your eyes it may not be a waste, daily dynamis farming got old fast but i figured the weapon i was building would stay competitive for the duration of the game. So even though it was a grind to get these weapons, for me it was worth it knowing it would be good for the games duration. Since they no longer are, and i didn't have fun building them, in my eyes it was in fact a waste. I think the problem is that you are willing to pay X amount of money to a company for a product that you don't enjoy playing. I'm enjoying playing this game though I find dynamis boring as hell to farm currencies. But, I'm doing this that are annoying to enjoy this game more. VW and other money making methods exist. We got many money making methods yet people force themselves to do a specific event in a way that they don't enjoy in hope of enjoying in the future, knowing perfectly that a MMO can change completely. Gambling etc, talked about that like 50 pages ago. Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » You can't play a MMO and expect a situation to last forever, this is a basic of MMOs. Brief period with Empyreans completely outclassing Relics/Mythics aside. Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » Quetzalcoatl.Bryangelos said: » Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » Quetzalcoatl.Bryangelos said: » In your eyes it may not be a waste, daily dynamis farming got old fast but i figured the weapon i was building would stay competitive for the duration of the game. So even though it was a grind to get these weapons, for me it was worth it knowing it would be good for the games duration. Since they no longer are, and i didn't have fun building them, in my eyes it was in fact a waste. I think the problem is that you are willing to pay X amount of money to a company for a product that you don't enjoy playing. So because i made my weapons the fastest way i knew how, doing daily dynamis (which i didn't enjoy) yet i had fun using that weapon in the other events my ls did. That means i didn't enjoy the game at all? what your saying is because i didn't like one event i had to do to get my weapon i don't enjoy playing at all? Is it at all possible we simply think different and to you farming dynamis is fun so you don't care your weapon now sucks, and to me it wasn't so i feel my time is wasted? You made a weapon, you had fun with it. The purpose of your weapon, your own goal, both have been achieved. You can't play a MMO and expect a situation to last forever, this is a basic of MMOs. No, read my first one, i said all i want is for my weapon to stay competitive. I know MOST mmos do this, ff11 has not been till now, had i known they were going to do this, i would not have farmed dynamis to make my 99 masa, i would of made a 99 tp bonas gtk instead. I'm not sure why you just can't accept the fact my opinion is different then yours, you don't feel time was wasted, i understand and respect your opinion. I thought my weapon would stay competitive for the games duration which is why i did a event i didn't like, so i feel my time was wasted. Is that really so hard to understand? or am i not allowed to have a different opinion then you? People been making the same arguments back and forth for a while now. Thread ran out of quality about 30 pages ago.
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Ragnarok.Hotkarl said: » That's a good thing, I'll take A. Dirt cheap currency, Or B. quiet dyna without bst(herpes outbreak if ff11) running wild clogging up the camps. That's good news for you.  Ragnarok.Raenil said: » Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » You can't play a MMO and expect a situation to last forever, this is a basic of MMOs. Brief period with Empyreans completely outclassing Relics/Mythics aside. That's some quality logic right here. Way to give me a cute 1337. I guess to be more clear, the reason i made the weapon was to not have to get another weapon for my main again. I figured i might have to upgrade it later on but it wouldn't be replaced. So my goal in making the weapon wasn't to just have fun with the weapon, which is why i feel i wasted my time. I do understand how you feel you had fun with your weapon so it wasn't a waste. I simply do not feel the same way about mine.
And i know people keep saying in MMO's things never stay on top, i geuss i'm stupid because i thought in FF11 R/E/M would. So in the long run after 10 years it is in fact my fault for being stupid, and i should of known this 10 years ago.
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Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » Ragnarok.Raenil said: » Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » You can't play a MMO and expect a situation to last forever, this is a basic of MMOs. Brief period with Empyreans completely outclassing Relics/Mythics aside. That's some quality logic right here. Way to give me a cute 1337.
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Quetzalcoatl.Bryangelos said: » I guess to be more clear, the reason i made the weapon was to not have to get another weapon for my main again. I figured i might have to upgrade it later on but it wouldn't be replaced. So my goal in making the weapon wasn't to just have fun with the weapon, which is why i feel i wasted my time. I do understand how you feel you had fun with your weapon so it wasn't a waste. I simply do not feel the same way about mine. And i know people keep saying in MMO's things never stay on top, i geuss i'm stupid because i thought in FF11 R/E/M would. So in the long run after 10 years it is in fact my fault for being stupid, and i should of known this 10 years ago. The same way as when Abyssea came out Salvage and RMs were wiped (among other things such as abjurations, too and so on), now it's the weapons turn to be wiped again. Some of us lived this already so we keep hope or just learned to take it, for other people it's still new so they need more time. Nothing wrong with it. |
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