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By Asura.Originalkord 2013-05-04 09:22:54
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
I'm not rationalizing, I'm explaining that you haven't lost anything besides your internet status(and even that will take a while to go away, since many people won't have the new gear immediately). If you're that upset about looking less cool on a MMO, get off the soap box, log off XIAH, and quit already.

I already did quit the game, for now. It doesn't mean I won't be back, and it doesn't mean I have to quit the community.

I still have friends after all, right?
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-05-04 09:24:43
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Asura.Originalkord said: »
I already did quit the game, for now. It doesn't mean I won't be back, and it doesn't mean I have to quit the community.

I still have friends after all, right?
nah, we'd be better off without you

don't need people who get their validation through waving items around
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2013-05-04 09:26:00
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For jobs with boring weapons, perhaps it's possible to rationalize switching to a new boring weapon. Some jobs have interesting weapons that actually play well with the rest of the job, though, and leaving them is a ***.

If I wanted to just engage and WS every 100 TP, I'd have made a Spharai.
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By Asura.Originalkord 2013-05-04 09:26:46
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
Asura.Originalkord said: »
I already did quit the game, for now. It doesn't mean I won't be back, and it doesn't mean I have to quit the community.

I still have friends after all, right?
nah, we'd be better off without you

don't need people who get their validation through waving items around

I don't get my validation that way. Actually, to your point earlier, if I did get my validation that way, then I would be hanging around and having "no problem getting the new gear."
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-05-04 09:29:53
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still seeing your posts for some reason

guess you must really like this game

maybe enough to come back and check out delve

so i guess se isnt all that bad for ruining your weapon
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By Asura.Originalkord 2013-05-04 09:32:24
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
still seeing your posts for some reason

guess you must really like this game

maybe enough to come back and check out delve

so i guess se isnt all that bad for ruining your weapon

I thought we were having a bit of a discussion. Am I not supposed to "Comeatyoubro" when you say something that I have a response to?

If you have nothing new to add, that's fine, we can stop here.

Oh, and if you don't want to see Q_Qing because you don't agree with the fact people are upset, then you should stop voluntarily reading this thread all together.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-05-04 09:34:04
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i saw plenty of pages of QQing, i'll see plenty more

i just find it funny people think the amount quitting over butthurt is any way comparable to the content problem they created

anyone who quits over gear being outdated has to be aspie as hell
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By Giaden 2013-05-04 09:39:32
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I know this is a R/E/M page but, what do you think about Trail weapons, such as str dagger ect.... worth it?
Reason I ask is because I started a new toon and I've been pondering the idea of making a magian str dagger. At least until this expansion came out and tossed the ffxi community upside down. Or should I go the easy way out and just buy AH daggers. I'm just looking for opinions on the time and effort put into those weapons now.
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By Asura.Originalkord 2013-05-04 09:43:25
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
i saw plenty of pages of QQing, i'll see plenty more

i just find it funny people think the amount quitting over butthurt is any way comparable to the content problem they created

anyone who quits over gear being outdated has to be aspie as hell

LOL, no, there just comes a point where you get tired of jumping through a hoop to get the next best thing. Voluntarily pay money to jump through that hoop, might I add. Yes, gear has always been outdated by new gear, but this is time is different, and you know it.

If you still find it fun and are willing to pay for it, then kudos, that's your right.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-05-04 09:44:24
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Giaden said: »
I know this is a R/E/M page but, what do you think about Trail weapons, such as str dagger ect.... worth it?
Reason I ask is because I started a new toon and I've been pondering the idea of making a magian str dagger. At least until this expansion came out and tossed the ffxi community upside down. Or should I go the easy way out and just buy AH daggers. I'm just looking for opinions on the time and effort put into those weapons now.

For now, it'd probably be better to just go with AH daggers.
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By Lakshmi.Tadakichi 2013-05-04 09:45:28
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fillerbunny9 said: »
with the relative ease that drops occur, what is going to KEEP people playing? this isn't WoW where you have a massive, casual playerbase to live off of month to month while the harder core players complete the expansion like it's a race. if people are getting their "insert crazy aztec named weapon here" what's going to maintain their sub from month to month? we're done with levelling, even soloing RUN I took it to 74 and a half before ducking into Abyssea within a week. I see the new weapons already on their 2nd Augment in East/West Adoulin frequently enough that I wonder if once the people racing through this content are finished, if they don't just let their subs. lapse because oh hey, 99% of the content in the game has been rendered obsolete. .

O-O 99% of the content? Most old events still relevant for the gear lol, just not weapons. Some event like limbus, Salvage or Meebles were not being farmed for a single weapon (although some did salvage for Alex I guess). Legion, VWs that weren't Qilin, Prov odin, all that!
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-05-04 09:49:25
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Asura.Originalkord said: »
LOL, no, there just comes a point where you get tired of jumping through a hoop to get the next best thing. Voluntarily pay money to jump through that hoop, might I add. Yes, gear has always been outdated by new gear, but this is time is different, and you know it.

If you still find it fun and are willing to pay for it, then kudos, that's your right.
so basically, you only like xi if you can stay best without doing anything

its not like you need new weapons to continue what you were doing before

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By Otomis 2013-05-04 09:50:52
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From what I am seeing in performance numbers as we start into this new content with LS are the high performers are they ones who have worked hard already in past content to have the best weapons and armor while many are struggling to keep up. I really do not think the old content will just disappear, as it can still be relevant for players to build up the gear sets on for the higher lv challenges.

I know this is not 100% true, as often time lesser skilled and geared players will ride the coat tails of more veteran players to get plasma and KIs. But that is ok too, the game at the end of the day is about community.

As other will simply fund there wins through merc groups when that begins to happen. I am just not thinking the whole thing is a dead duck yet. I am kind of holding my breath to see what the next few weeks bring.

EDIT: bah did it again there their*
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By Asura.Originalkord 2013-05-04 09:52:06
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
Asura.Originalkord said: »
LOL, no, there just comes a point where you get tired of jumping through a hoop to get the next best thing. Voluntarily pay money to jump through that hoop, might I add. Yes, gear has always been outdated by new gear, but this is time is different, and you know it.

If you still find it fun and are willing to pay for it, then kudos, that's your right.
so basically, you only like xi if you can stay best without doing anything

its not like you need new weapons to continue what you were doing before

confirmed for aspie

A lot of things are wrong with this statement. When did I say I wanted to stay the best...when did I say I was even the best? I'm far from it, but thank you for the compliment. I also don't recall saying I want to do nothing. That is actually the OPPOSITE of what I'm looking for. Farming weapons takes work, seems to me that they just handed out freebies via a ridiculous drop rate.

Also, sorry to hear you have Asperger's. Enjoy the new content.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-05-04 09:55:49
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My point of view on the weapons being outclassed is a bit more simple than that of others. I like 'legendaries' because they are special. I don't care which is strongest, as a matter of fact some of them were bad already, however if they're not even remotely competitive then it also becomes very silly to spend the huge amount of time(money is time too) required to make them(specifically relics and mythics). If you want to obliterate them then cut all the requirements by a huge lot, I'll make them and then put the game on a shelf. Cause to me it's about having a goal, and while I do play at the best of my capacity cause being terrible isn't fun, getting the top gear is only a mean to reach the goal set. Sure, they can still be a goal...but if they suck so bad it's not a goal worth the time anymore if I feel like I'd just complete them and shutdown instead of playing with them.

As a side note, if they added a new line of special weapons in Adoulin I would have been fine with it, even happy(and I was expecting it), but ah weapons/augment weapons with terrible models are really boring. I don't fill any sense of achievement in having one of those. Not always the game is about the biggest epeen, to me.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-05-04 09:55:53
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LOL, no, there just comes a point where you get tired of jumping through a hoop to get the next best thing. Voluntarily pay money to jump through that hoop, might I add.
let's take a closer look at that

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there just comes a point where you get tired of jumping through a hoop to get the next best thing
Okay, you're sick of farming upgrades(playing XI). Simple enough to follow.

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Voluntarily pay money to jump through that hoop, might I add.
You're implying people are paying to be forced to do this? So then, you can't enjoy FFXI without the latest and greatest gear.

From this, I conclude that you only play to be the best. You don't enjoy the game, and you're better off quitting.

(If you did not enjoy farming your weapon in the first place, you're doing it wrong. If you did enjoy farming it in the first place, relax and enjoy trying out the new content. Most people have had positive reports and enjoyed it. Farming your delve gear is not meant to be work. It's meant to be fun.)
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By Asura.Originalkord 2013-05-04 10:02:12
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
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LOL, no, there just comes a point where you get tired of jumping through a hoop to get the next best thing. Voluntarily pay money to jump through that hoop, might I add.
let's take a closer look at that

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there just comes a point where you get tired of jumping through a hoop to get the next best thing
Okay, you're sick of farming upgrades(playing XI). Simple enough to follow.

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Voluntarily pay money to jump through that hoop, might I add.
You're implying people are paying to be forced to do this? So then, you can't enjoy FFXI without the latest and greatest gear.

From this, I conclude that you only play to be the best. You don't enjoy the game, and you're better off quitting.

(If you did not enjoy farming your weapon in the first place, you're doing it wrong. If you did enjoy farming it in the first place, relax and enjoy trying out the new content. Most people have had positive reports and enjoyed it.)

Never said I didn't enjoy it at the time either. I had fun doing it, otherwise I would not have continued to pay to do it. Granted, I wasnt about to make Claustrums or Mjollnirs for the sake of rank, I only did things for jobs I played and enjoyed.

Also, yes, I am implying that people are being forced to jump through the hoop to be able to participate in content. If you were lucky enough to have an established LS during the VW era, then great, you werent effected. If you had to rely on pick up groups how easy do you think it was for a non RME player to get in to a higher tier VW?

That's what SE is trying to do away with, by the looks of things, and I am not saying there is anything wrong with that. At this time, I just don't feel like playing anymore, and these changes that I don't really care for are a good reason to stop.

I await your reply that will attempt to miscontrue everything I've said up to this point.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-05-04 10:05:38
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I'm failing to see the relevance of anything you said there. Players who consider it a hoop are not being forced to do anything, they can quit at any time. SE doing away with content that locks people out is a good thing, not sure if you're implying otherwise or what..? If your primary reason for quitting is that your weapons were made irrelevant, you were most likely not enjoying the game to begin with and it would've happened in the near future anyway. At that point, I direct you back to my first post, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

People don't quit because they have to get new things, unless they valued their items more than their gameplay.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-04 10:08:38
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Guys! I unlocked stringing pummel! All of this hatred and ire is no way to celebrate!

Everyone crack open a drink!
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By Asura.Originalkord 2013-05-04 10:08:38
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
I'm failing to see the relevance of anything you said there. Players who consider it a hoop are not being forced to do anything, they can quit at any time. SE doing away with content that locks people out is a good thing, not sure if you're implying otherwise or what..?

Remember one post up where I said "
"That's what SE is trying to do away with, by the looks of things, and I am not saying there is anything wrong with that"

Good day to you, sir.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-05-04 10:09:30
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You edited that in after my post, you're super cool. Are you thick enough to not connect the dots and realize I replied to your original post, or are you just looking for a cheap way to duck out of the argument?
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By Asura.Originalkord 2013-05-04 10:11:10
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I didn't, actually, but thanks for trying.

Speaking of editing posts, if I duck out of this argument its only because I have better things to do lol...if you can even call this an argument.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-05-04 10:11:40
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By Asura.Aerox 2013-05-04 10:18:24
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I'm sorry but anyone who thinks this is acceptable is dead wrong and cannot defend it:




VS

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By fonewear 2013-05-04 10:27:58
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Asura.Aerox said: »
I'm sorry but anyone who thinks this is acceptable is dead wrong and cannot defend it:




VS



Yea that Hauberk is pretty sad.
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By Asura.Thannatos 2013-05-04 13:53:23
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Someone take that Nagan off that fat galk's back.
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