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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-05-04 08:29:41
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Bismarck.Bloodbathboy said: »
My beef with this is... If R/E/M weren't going to top dogs forever why make half the trials so hard?

I look at it as Old Man Tanaka, as delusional as he may have been, knew what he was doing and kept the R/M/Es relevant, then Young Gun Matsui, who was just waiting for Tanaka to leave, decides to do his own thing, running the game into the ground.

I kinda get the feel that this is the result of some hidden power struggle and to some extent Matsui won.
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By fonewear 2013-05-04 08:30:10
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Don't play in hopes you will have the top weapon or armor and the game is much more enjoyable.

Edit: You know that is a losing battle.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2013-05-04 08:31:27
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I feel kind of bad for the Dev team, but they brought this on themselves . Who I feel worse for are those players who took 1 or more R/E/M to 99. Can't even imagine the time it took. To be honest, I feel guilty about bitchin about being 2200 HMP in the trials.
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By Asura.Originalkord 2013-05-04 08:33:06
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You can't compare the introduction of mythics to relics to what just happened with this update.

They were both 75 content, and unless you had a specialty weapon like a Burtgang or Yagrush, relics were your better DD weapons choice, for the most part.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-05-04 08:35:30
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Alot of people (Including JPs) have quit over this because Matsui pretty much shat all over their hard work.

TBH, I was watching the .dat mine at work last Monday, as soon as the items came up on BG, I could see the clouds rolling in for the shitstorm we're seeing now.
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By Asura.Originalkord 2013-05-04 08:36:29
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Phoenix.Kojo said: »
Alot of people (Including JPs) have quit over this because Matsui pretty much shat all over their hard work.

Count me in as one of them...alongside some alt accounts too.
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By Odin.Tsuneo 2013-05-04 08:37:29
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I dunno where you guys are getting your statistics from. I'm seeing more people online than usual.

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By Asura.Ina 2013-05-04 08:38:47
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Alt accounts is what makes this interesting, 1 person quitting doesn't always mean 1 less account for SE which is how they will be counting things. Chances are a majority of the people who are quitting over it have more than 1 as well.
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By Asura.Originalkord 2013-05-04 08:39:22
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Odin.Tsuneo said: »
I dunno where you guys are getting your statistics from. I'm seeing more people online than usual.

No one is doubting that there are more people online now than there have been over recent months...there was a major expansion that just came out, after all.

The amount of people subscribed or online now isn't really what this is all about. In fact, people coming back after long breaks are those who stand to benefit most from this situation.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-05-04 08:40:49
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Odin.Tsuneo said: »
I dunno where you guys are getting your statistics from. I'm seeing more people online than usual.


The DRK in that pic is staring out over the ocean, thinking about the days when his scythe was top dawg. You see him standing sort of bowlegged, that's because his *** is sore, and the last update was the phallic object that caused such pain.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2013-05-04 08:41:28
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Odin.Tsuneo said: »
I dunno where you guys are getting your statistics from. I'm seeing more people online than usual.

Oh damn, looks like my server,lol.
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By Einhejar 2013-05-04 08:42:08
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Odin.Tsuneo said: »
I dunno where you guys are getting your statistics from. I'm seeing more people online than usual.


I was like WOAH, and then I realized you're from Odin.
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By Asura.Aerox 2013-05-04 08:43:42
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I wouldn't say a lot of people quit specifically because of those reasons entirely, maybe over the years yeah a lot of people quit but that's just normal.

Idk maybe it's just my experiance then. All but 2 of my friends did quit a few months into abyssea and 2 of my LS broke and it just seemed to be the thing that was happening at the time, so I changed server and started over. But atm, my current ls is having low turnout to events, legion/prov not running and those who online just joining pug for delve etc so meh... and yeah we have a lot of 99 relic owners.
 
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By Asura.Originalkord 2013-05-04 08:50:28
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Valefor.Angierus said: »
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What's this? people gathered around the salvage NPC to do old content? BUT THAT GEAR IS ***!!!

What's this? Someone shouting for a relic loan? Lolnooob.

You all are nothing more than tryhard's, trying your hardest to hate the new content because your Lv.85 empyrean is sad or something.

1) Alexandrite is still money, people still may be looking to finish up final pieces, and yes, not ALL of it is obsolete.

2) He's asking for a LOAN, not to buy currency, why should he not finish? Maybe he'd be better off selling his currency at the deflated prices?

Good try.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-05-04 08:50:30
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Honestly, I don't believe Matsui knows what he's doing. I really don't. Think about the fact that he is giving us 200+ DMG weapons, but didn't seem to take into account that he has to adjust pet jobs and elemental magic to keep THEM relevant. It's not just the R/M/E's he's f*cked up on, it's just the bigger problem we're seeing.

Secondly, his half-assed, lackluster responces and his mass amounts out doubt displayed in said responces.

Lastly, he released an expansion that in order to be successful requires player participation, then on the first update makes everything required for it to be successful obsolete, now the colonization rates are starting to decay.

I just don't trust his judgement.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2013-05-04 08:56:13
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This just in...for those wishing to take a R/E/M to 99. It will only cost 1/10 of the items previously . Those who have a 99 R/E/M already . You may stand up, bend at hips, stick your head between your legs. And kiss your own ***,lol.
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By Ragnarok.Alahra 2013-05-04 08:59:08
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Phoenix.Kojo said: »
Honestly, I don't believe Matsui knows what he's doing. I really don't. Think about the fact that he is giving us 200+ DMG weapons, but didn't seem to take into account that he has to adjust pet jobs and elemental magic to keep THEM relevant. It's not just the R/M/E's he's f*cked up on, it's just the bigger problem we're seeing.

Secondly, his half-assed, lackluster responces and his mass amounts out doubt displayed in said responces.

Lastly, he released an expansion that in order to be successful requires player participation, then on the first update makes everything required for it to be successful obsolete, now the colonization rates are starting to decay.

I just don't trust his judgement.

I don't either. I'm sort of half-ignoring Adoulin and pretending the game's basically as it was before it. I still have to do old Salvage/Salvage II to build my entire Usukane set, finish my Kannagi and get Kikoku done. I'm having trouble drumming up folks even for low-man content, though. The wind seems to have been sucked out of Ragnarok's sails, at least.

Once Adoulin's content seems to make some sense, I'll probably put more time into it, but for now it's just a curiosity.
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By fillerbunny9 2013-05-04 08:59:20
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with the relative ease that drops occur, what is going to KEEP people playing? this isn't WoW where you have a massive, casual playerbase to live off of month to month while the harder core players complete the expansion like it's a race. if people are getting their "insert crazy aztec named weapon here" what's going to maintain their sub from month to month? we're done with levelling, even soloing RUN I took it to 74 and a half before ducking into Abyssea within a week. I see the new weapons already on their 2nd Augment in East/West Adoulin frequently enough that I wonder if once the people racing through this content are finished, if they don't just let their subs. lapse because oh hey, 99% of the content in the game has been rendered obsolete.

what are all the pet job players to do now that the weaponry FAR exceeds any balance with pets? Wyverns are now even more laughable than before, Avatars, Automatons, and BST Jugs are all a joke now. (well, Automatons are still useful as a WHM, but who's going to take PUP to the new content?) Black Mages spells are not hitting any harder from what I have seen, Scholars are just casting Cure spells with their White Mage brethren, and Red Mage.... what the ***'s a Red Mage? meanwhile SE alienates their base of melee by saying "any weapon you put a lot of work into is now a steaming turd compared to this stuff you can get pretty damn fast, now chase them down!" and they're supposed to smile while they're fed that ***sandwich.

it's no wonder Matsui feels like he is getting an ulcer, because the updates have shown just how little of a plan they actually have beyond inflating numbers while letting the rest of the game go to pot. the entire XI Dev Team has been caught with their pants down, and the best they can do is "get back to us" about solutions to breaking the game.
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By Odin.Tsuneo 2013-05-04 09:02:03
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I have no doubt that there's going to be an expansion to Delve considering we don't even have all the zones unlocked for the SoA yet.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-05-04 09:03:32
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If you're going to quit over your REM not being the best, do it already.

Nobody's going to miss you.

Really, we won't.
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By Asura.Originalkord 2013-05-04 09:06:54
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
If you're going to quit over your REM not being the best, do it already.

Nobody's going to miss you.

Really, we won't.

Yea, how dare people play a game with a goal in mind to excel at it. Ultimately people play games for fun, maybe the ability to excel made things fun?
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-05-04 09:07:06
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Personally, and many will disagree, but I DID say "personally", I think the weapons should have the damage reduced, should top out about the range of a HQ3 Skirmish weapon's damage with the exeption of R/M/E's which will have slightly better damage. Instead of an extreme jump in base damage, these weapons should have better secondary stats than weapons before. Solves quite a few problems with the gap in pet/magic jobs, the dual wield issue, and it will make older content easier without completely obsoleting it.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-05-04 09:08:31
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Asura.Originalkord said: »
Yea, how dare people play a game with a goal in mind to excel at it. Ultimately people play games for fun, maybe the ability to excel made things fun?
If you really excel at it, then you'll have no problem getting the new weapons and excelling with those. Sorry, not seeing the problem.
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By Asura.Originalkord 2013-05-04 09:10:40
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
Asura.Originalkord said: »
Yea, how dare people play a game with a goal in mind to excel at it. Ultimately people play games for fun, maybe the ability to excel made things fun?
If you really excel at it, then you'll have no problem getting the new weapons and excelling with those. Sorry, not seeing the problem.

Right, and I would have been happy to move on to whatever the new content had to offer, but not at the expense of literally everything I had done up until this point.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-05-04 09:10:49
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
Asura.Originalkord said: »
Yea, how dare people play a game with a goal in mind to excel at it. Ultimately people play games for fun, maybe the ability to excel made things fun?
If you really excel at it, then you'll have no problem getting the new weapons and excelling with those. Sorry, not seeing the problem.

I thought you were topic-banned.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-05-04 09:12:53
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Asura.Originalkord said: »
Right, and I would have been happy to move on to whatever the new content had to offer, but not at the expense of literally everything I had done up until this point.
Your knowledge of the game is intact.

The friendships you've made are intact.

Your gear will be competitive for some time to come, if it didn't suck before adoulin. It's not like everyone is being handed fully upgraded Delve armor.

The real problem is losing old content, but if you were omgsuper1337 before adoulin then you won't mind that.

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I thought you were topic-banned.
If only, I waste so much time in this thread lately.
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By Asura.Originalkord 2013-05-04 09:18:08
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
Asura.Originalkord said: »
Right, and I would have been happy to move on to whatever the new content had to offer, but not at the expense of literally everything I had done up until this point.
Your knowledge of the game is intact.

The friendships you've made are intact.

Your gear will be competitive for some time to come, if it didn't suck before adoulin. It's not like everyone is being handed fully upgraded Delve armor.

The real problem is losing old content, but if you were omgsuper1337 before adoulin then you won't mind that.

Actually, its my opinion. You don't have to "get it," you don't need to rationalize it. You can disagree, and that's fine, but you can't change my mind if you admittedly don't know where I'm coming from.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-05-04 09:20:29
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I'm not rationalizing, I'm explaining that you haven't lost anything besides your internet status(and even that will take a while to go away, since many people won't have the new gear immediately). If you're that upset about looking less cool on a MMO, get off the soap box, log off XIAH, and quit already.
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