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 Ragnarok.Zohnax
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By Ragnarok.Zohnax 2013-05-04 05:52:35
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »

Only now comes the full realization of the damage that Abyssea did to this game. Make everything easy-mode for two-three years, people get too used to it and become terrible at their jobs/gear. Granted, I enjoy a good challenge just as much as the next guy, but I agree it's disheartening that the recourse I see for actually participating in this content in shout groups.
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By Odin.Tsuneo 2013-05-04 05:58:55
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Ragnarok.Zohnax said: »
Only now comes the full realization of the damage that Abyssea did to this game. Make everything easy-mode for two-three years, people get too used to it and become terrible at their jobs/gear. Granted, I enjoy a good challenge just as much as the next guy, but I agree it's disheartening that the recourse I see for actually participating in this content in shout groups.
Nope.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-05-04 06:00:08
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not what i was going for at all, intelligent people will always be capable of doing their job and unintelligent people usually will not be

there are just less players, which results in less intelligent players
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By Ragnarok.Presidentobama 2013-05-04 06:05:21
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I don't know what you guys are sayng. Their has been no Delve shouts on Rag server, unless you count the Japanese ones. and They only take Japanese only.

Most English people I know don't have any wins either so its not just me.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-05-04 06:07:17
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I've seen shouts here, though haven't joined them but can't imagine pug going well at all at this...
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-05-04 06:08:07
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plenty of shouts here, if you have time to sit through 6 hours of horribly organized SAWS and no better option
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By Sylph.Mirvana 2013-05-04 06:12:49
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I'll take the post-Abyssea days over 2006-era any day of the week.

EDIT: Wow, should make sure I've refreshed page before clicking submit. Didn't realize my reply was 20mins late >.<
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-04 06:21:03
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Constant Delve shouts on Fenrir in both JP and NA (although you don't see NA Delve shouts at weird times of the day whereas JPs have been shouting 24/7) and Fenrir is pretty backwater as far as servers go
 
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-04 06:49:43
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I've seen plenty of shouts both in English and Japanese on Cerberus.

It really looks like the new VW, some servers might need a bit more time for it to take off.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-04 06:54:50
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Should be able to do everything with

WHM BRD COR PLD DD DD
WHM BRD COR DD DD DD
6 pack of Mages - Assorted Flavors

If you have more than 5 DDs then you probably don't have enough support crew or you're fighting something you don't need a PLD for and you have 6 DDs

So yeah - VW redux
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By Bismarck.Vurant 2013-05-04 07:03:47
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Hello all, i dont post a lot so i know i might make spelling errors (not native English) so bear with me. :)

I play this game around 3-4 years.I don't own a 99 relic (third stage Ragnarok here) and most of my emps are 85 so i can't relate much to 99 R/M/E owners but i feel them to some point being worried, upset and frustrated.

The reason i chose to play FFXI is cause i am a fan of the series and wanted to play a MMORPG too(never played an online game before).I knew FFXI was getting old and WoW and some others were out there with better graphics and such(many of my friends play Wow btw and i was shown how WoW is) but..
the reason i continued playing FFXI and didn't quit after a year was the feeling that long time efforts and dedication even at crafting were gonna be rewarded at the end with unique gear or weapons that makes you be better at your job and stand out of others, plus the feeling of having goals and accoplishing something great. It was something others games didn't have.

The thing is that after the latest update i don't have the slightest motivation to do anything really. There is no reason to max my relic or empyreans and also no reason to get aby or dyna or salvage gear and max it since they get tramped by SoA gear/weapons that can be bought after making some clears.

Even if Matsui makes R/M/E on par with or slightly better from the SoA weapons what is really the point? A partial solution would be to lower the dmg and def of the new equipment/weapons or make some of the high dmg weapons "SoA fights only" weapons, like the Griffinclaw in Campaign, but i think the new dev team is oriented at different direction alltogether.

Anyways, if i dont read a radical solution from Matsui and his team i have decided to unsubscribe at the end of the month since i paid it. :(

I love FF, and FFXI gave me some wonderful memories all those years plus the opportunity to meet good people ( well most of them :)) along the way and i'm happy i chose it as my first MMORPG.

Sorry for the long post and,

Cheers all.
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By fonewear 2013-05-04 07:45:45
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By Gimp 2013-05-04 07:46:22
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skimmmed back a few pages but to make sure I didn't miss anything important in the stream of posts

there will be an official word of this monday from devs?
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By fonewear 2013-05-04 07:47:51
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Official response... We don't have the manpower to respond right now please be assured we are looking into the problem.
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By Asura.Aerox 2013-05-04 07:50:42
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Totally agree with Vurant. Best thing about this game was the good/bad memories, the nostalgia effect it had. Also, being able to look at my PLD sets at 75 cap being proud at finally getting near to completing them and standing out from the crowd (hauti/w-legs/homam etc that all took me 2 years and many bad LSs to get lol).

It was devastating for me when abyssea came and made it redundant but large LS was still around and abyssea was fun for a group to do to begin with. But these days 99 R/E/M is really the only thing that makes you stand out everything else is easy and you get from Pug/2-box...

I may not have a 99 R/E/M yet but I remember what it was like having your best gear thrown out for shitty looking perle/teal gear and I imagine it's the same feeling now with r/e/m. Maybe I sound anti-new content but SE has found ways to make it work in the past;
Sky/sea/salvage/hnm/ein/Znm all could be mixed and matched to make the best sets no 1 content beat out all the rest, was always a few omg pieces and a lot of meh pieces that kept content balance. Even with abyssea/vw they got some old content back on top for a while with augments and revamps.

Fair play to all those who are /psych about SoA and enjoy it/look forward to new updates but for me personally i'm tired of getting somewhere in the game and ending up putting my hard efforts into storage. I may have wanted "gear progression" like Matsui seems to be doing if there was some artful skins to go with it and if ppl I get on well with wern't leaving due to this r/e/m situation >.>
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By skyehope928 2013-05-04 08:00:34
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Indeed
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By Siren.Piccollo 2013-05-04 08:03:48
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Matsui: "Don't throw away your R/M/E weapons yet"(unless your emo)
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By fonewear 2013-05-04 08:06:21
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Can't wait for Delve weapons to be outdated so I can *** about them.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2013-05-04 08:15:25
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Well at least for the time being .... I am going to hold off on empys.. Don't want to throw away any gil unnecessarily.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-05-04 08:17:39
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Gimp said: »
skimmmed back a few pages but to make sure I didn't miss anything important in the stream of posts

there will be an official word of this monday from devs?

Hope so. Probably not.

What if they just come out Monday and say they decided not to do anything with R/M/Es?
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By Odin.Tsuneo 2013-05-04 08:19:09
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We'd probably get over it.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2013-05-04 08:19:54
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You will see some very upset people Ko.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-05-04 08:19:59
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Odin.Tsuneo said: »
We'd probably get over it.

After a ton of people quit, those left might.


Bismarck.Bloodbathboy said: »
You will see some very upset people Ko.

I will be one of them.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2013-05-04 08:23:35
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My beef with this is... If R/E/M weren't going to top dogs forever why make half the trials so hard?
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By fonewear 2013-05-04 08:24:34
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Bismarck.Bloodbathboy said: »
My beef with this is... If R/E/M weren't going to top dogs forever why make half the trials so hard?

To keep you playing month after month.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-04 08:24:47
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Bismarck.Bloodbathboy said: »
My beef with this is... If R/E/M weren't going to top dogs forever why make half the trials so hard?

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By Asura.Aerox 2013-05-04 08:28:47
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Valefor.Angierus said: »
People complained about salvage gear being replaced at 80, what happened? They moved on.

People complained when empyrean weapons were considered better than relic / mythic, what happened? They moved on.

and now people are complaining because r/e/m are now beat by new content, what is gonna happen? people will move the *** on.

And each time a lot of people quit too. Each time LS's became less common because ppl left and they broke. Not a good business strat for me lol
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