Matsui: "Don't Throw Away Your R/M/E Weapons Yet"

LOL I have a giant notebook full of them in a box in my crawlspace!!!

Faxanadu is the one that really sticks out because the mantras were obnoxiously long.

Well, if that sentiment is directed at Taint, I wouldn't agree with it and he can rebut it himself if he wants.

OR... they understand the ebb and flow of online gaming and accept the fact that the "best" won't always stay the best.

Oh I wasn't saying you had to be a basket case to own a R/E/M99. I'd be calling myself one if that was the case.
I was however trying to point out the obvious value of 6 years, who anyone that isn't a basket case would recognize.

I'm sure taint has his big boy trousers on :)

I am at the point now where the game just feels meh, logged on for a couple hours today and just chatted in LS. Game has just become a get online and chat to people game for me. I still farm Dyna here and there for gil. But over all Fenrir is just dead.

EDIT : Probably time for another 3-6 month break from FFXI, lol.

for me to agree that that's what's really going on (i am sure they think that's what's going on), one of two things would need to have happened:

1) RME holders would need to express empathy for other RME holders who are varying levels of distraught about this, accepting that it is a totally worthy thing to be bummed about (this is what byrth has done, to his credit)

OR

2) back when RMEs were the best choice (but not by a huge amount in a lot of cases), these RME holders would have posted in "hey so how do I gear my _______" with "yeah i have an rme and it's pretty baller but unless we're talking about a super easy one (masamune, kannagi [my emps lol]) they involve way more of an investment than could be considered objectively worth it so unless you're fixin' to do some bleeding edge ***you really, really shouldn't bother; get (magian or powerful drop relevant to the dynamics of this particular job) instead if there isn't a reason for you to ball this hard"

I think their idea was originally sounding good and I'd totally go for an ultimate weapon which requires all 3 ERM 99 with their ws and AM unlocked. But it should require those weapons to not coexist, not the "your REM are useless you can toss them" thing. I mean once you get base + all 3 E/R/M at 99 you just synergize them to make an ultimate weapon which could be augmented via trial or anything else.

I think we can consider Delve's weapons as base for future legendaries since they are relatively easy to get, but I think they should do something to R/E/M to be closer (not match though) to these base.

Edit : Maybe they should also do something like the stats aren't active outside of delve on base rare/ex new weapons.

I understand dericacy of discussion and everyone's feerings on matter; however, prease keep mind Producer Matsui say arr is not finarized at point they are stirr in earry discussion.

There be many posts that we remove due to inappropriate rangruage, so prease keep in mind making a repry to thread.

I doing arr I can so your opinions delivered to development team and rest assured your voice heard.


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dafuq did i just read?!

One more time in English?

No, we understand its a game. I have lots of hours tied up in this game. I have lots of completed weapons etc. If I got banned tomorrow I'd be sad for a day and move on. My weapons got kicked in the balls along with everyone elses. I can either complain I wasted the last 10 years (over 6 since my first relic) or I can move on one way or another.

The second anyone logs in they are technically wasting their life on an entertainment product. If the game makes you butthurt, log out and do something else...

racism

you just read racism

so is it your opinion that what you think and feel about the time you've spent so far (and surely you must think and feel something about it) is not something you have the right to express

when people (threaten to) quit stuff like ffxi it's not that they suddenly hate the game or even that they regret the time they've spent (i certainly do not); it is because continental shifts like this help them realize, if only briefly, that they have spent all this time writing a story that not even ffxi itself is interested in hearing

it is not a bad thing to find this upsetting; NOT finding it upsetting means you have not ascribed value to your experiences, and to spend as much time with this as you and i have only to deny its value ought to be cause for reflection

you cannot wipe all this away by saying "oh well it's just a video game lolz"

please cause people to quit so we get fenrir i want sylow to teach me how to dance

I am doing something else. I'm expressing my disappointment with the direction the game has taken. Communication.

If you want to turn the other cheek, or keep your head down and avoid eye contact, that's fine if it suits you. Just don't expect everyone else to think so low of themselves.
If reading others' statements makes your butthurt etc etc.

Turn some of his Rs to Ls and you'rr understand ^^

Not following the direction you are taking this. Maybe I am too simple minded.

Yes, it's an entertainment product for me to waste time, because that's the main reason why I pay for it right?

So when they slap customer's face like this, I'm not entertained for the time and money I spent on and I have right to rant.

Edit: It's just like, I want to pay for an RTS game, I heard Starcraft is awesome, so I spent 200 hour of my time to save money for it, after I installed it Blizzard secretly updated the game and made it into a RPG, which isn't what I paid for and wasted time for.
You can't just tell me to "get over it because it's just a vid game" like this.

I guess time that you spent with any friends that you had in your shell or doing events with are valueless to you people.

It's kinda sad that people can't look back and see that.

The somber tone of the thread makes me think people are finally moving on to stage 4!

Ofcourse you do...

People saying they wasted 6 years is where people are being HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. You paid/played during those 6 years, if it wasn't fun you wouldn't have paid/played that long. Crying that you wasted 6 years of your life because they changed how the game works is just silly. When they shut the servers down will you have wasted 10 years?

holy ***it's almost like grief is a complicated emotion

we aren't saying you're wrong for encouraging people to accept it and move on

we're saying you're being *** *** about it

EDIT: to clarify, the RME ITSELF is the representation of those experiences. that is where its value comes from. what, do you think people keep photo albums to remind themselves how hot they were at 25 or something

I see your point and it is valid if FFXI was to end today and if those of us who invested the time to attain these weapons, were told or lead to believe that it would end after achieving said goals. However it hasn't, they didn't and it won't.

People didn't spend their time upgrading Mythics to quit at the end of it. They were looking forward to something; engaging content with the weapon they earned and not sucking.

Nope, if they shut the server down with R/E/M as legendary weapon, and it's epicness and awesomeness stayed in my mind forever, then it's safe to say my money is worth it. I can totally forgive SE if they have no choice but to shut down the server, because it's going to happen one day anyways. And emotional attachment, the main reason why I paid for this game, is still there.

But no, they insulted my emotional attachment with an ugly looking AH weapon. And insulted it again by having the idea of letting ugly looking AH weapon able to use the WS.

lol i just realized i have 50 buds/shells and 50 scales/fangs in my dbox and absolutely no motivation to camp nms for em now

The planned weapon skill idea is simply ridiculous and patronizing. I think SE is under the impression that its REM player base is a bunch of snot nosed little brats and they are trying to offer a pathetic piece of candy to stop the crying and cover up the fact that they are moving away from the hard fought grind for REM weapons for the more standard cookie cutter "I win button" of most other games (and by "I win button" I really just mean instant gratification)

IMO SE does not owe REM weapon holders the rights to always have a superior weapon which I believe a lot of posters here feel entitled to.
I do how ever think that if they were going to create superior weapons to REM that the means to obtain them should be a similar experience. Relic weapons at one point were a real accomplishment.. and those types of accomplishments were a big part of what made FFXI greater then any other mmorpg. Unfortunately there are not going to be any of those types of accomplishments in the game any more. There are not enough ppl that recognize that all video games are time sinks and there are not enough ppl that have the patience and desire to spend months or years working on obtaining anything. It is a reflection of today's society.

I had to deal with a close friend and a few LS members quitting because all of "their" work is null.

I find it very immature that they are deciding that no one else helped them do anything, to rage-quit because new content was released.

Grow up.

Dbox invantory +20! I have 50 gems in mine and debating if I want to do lanterns and hearts just because or not.

Don't get me wrong, I want them too update REM as well. I made the 18th Apoc accross all servers, and back then it was a huge deal. 18 man LS dedicated a year-ish to my weapon and who knows how many runs to get attestation and fragment. I am very very fond of Apoc for the memories I had/have with it. (and not so fond of the 12,000 kill shot trials I did with it that took 6 months)

Chances are they will fix REM and atleast make the competitive even though its pretty obvious that was not their plan.

I helped a friend with his spharai trials back when it was like that, I didn't have a relic weapon, I just helped get mobs down to low hp so it was a shorter transition (That and final heaven isn't amazing).
I gotta say, I was about dead after the first 100 kills lol