Matsui: "Don't Throw Away Your R/M/E Weapons Yet"

Na, lack of manpower, bro.

you don't really know very much about how careers are supposed to work, do you

Like people did with R/E/Ms, before later complaining that they should be the best forever?

That makes me think of a great compromise? Everyone who had a Relic or Mythic before the level cap raise gets a free upgrade, because they did the real work. Everyone else go get a new weapon.

You are again missing the point. If PS3 came out, I want all my game saved data carried over to my PS3 from my old PS2. I will still buy PS3, similar to how I will still do my deed to get the 30,000 points, but can I have it in the form of relic upgrade instead of a new ugly looking weapon that look nothing unique nothing special no sentimental value and no background story behind?

That would mean those new weapons will be inaccessible for a large portion of players anyway. So it's obvious the REM owners aren't just bothered with the fact that their hard work is insulted, but it clearly will increase the gap between elite and playerbase.

That's why there are Rare/Ex weapons that people can get by just killing normal mobs once they join an alliance to get the KI. It's not like normal players can't get weapons, they just can't get the higher dmg AH ones.

yeah, i joined a pug for mastop last night filled with People Whom I Know Have Been Doing This For A While and it is pretty clear to me that anybody saying ANYBODY CAN GET THESE NEW WEAPONS ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS KILL AN NM ONCE hasn't actually tried any delve yet

a group with plenty of gear and 0 dead weight as far as one can assure for a pug (aegis and ochain PLDs tanking, melees were one 99 mandau and 6 SAM/THFs, 3 WHMs and everybody else was a SMN or COR) took an hour to get hiom to 71% and then wiped in about 2 minutes when he raged

That's why it's pretty funny

People keep going ALL RIGHT NO MORE RME SO THEY CAN'T BE RME ONLY IN SHOUTS I HATE BEING EXCLUDED BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO MAKE RME

3 months from now


NO ONE WILL INVITE ME BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A DELVE WEAPON SE THIS IS AN OUTRAGE

Yeah, the delve NM's are no joke. The 2 I've fought a few times I was at 20% accuracy on Samurai using sushi (no brd/cor, it was still new at the time), and one raged at 25%. Ultimately, I assume an alliance of people with moderate gear could take them down. (Should be a fun fight)

10k says i can kill mastop afk with a looping chi blast macro, pld, and mage

***isn't hard, it's tedious

the only threat associated with them is the unreasonably high def/eva and rage timer, nobody has any difficulty staying alive against them and most of them can be killed before rage by a decent group.. but considering you only need one win to get the weapons unlocked for purchase, people will manage the wins however they need to

Probably not - it randomly becomes immune to magic damage for apparently no reason whatsoever

All of them seem to have some "trick" with stances/modes where they're heavily weak to one type of damage (or immune to multiple types) so when that gets pinpointed they should all be pretty easy though

A whole 3 months?

I give it a week or 2 before shouts become Delve weapon only.

It seems that the fracture versions of the NMs would be preferable for PUGs since they don't appear to rage and have high drop rates for items.

There's so much truth to this.

If they'd actually played the game, things wouldn't have been broken so long. They'd have gone to their leads and said ("Hey, rdm sucks. Like... I don't know what you really want me to do with it?","Dude.. PLD sucks. Supertanking r fun."*,"Man, voidwatch is lol","What exactly are we doing to pup and bst?")

* I know they just 'fixed' enmity in the update before this, but lol this.

WoW went through the same stuff, and I finally came to this conclusion...

When a game starts, and it's a success, the devs probably participate on quiet characters you'd never know. A dev might be the well geared monk standing next to you, or it might be the ninja that can't count to 4 5. After some time, they just stop caring, all of them. They work on the game all day long, and getting near it for enjoyment repulses them.

Any professional has probably done the same. You create something, you want to enjoy it. The guys who built Dragon Naturally Speaking probably never use their keyboards. Hell, they probably speak the programming code. (God, I hope not, lol).

When you get to this point, the product begins to suffer. When the decisions time and time again make no sense.. You scratch your head and wonder why. It's slightly possible they have some delusion that they think they own our loyalty and if they make this game unenjoyable, we'll bide our time til 14, but it's more likely that they've lost all appreciation for why they enjoy this game.

the rage isn't a "timer" per se, i don't think; pretty sure i've seen at least two other people saying he rages at 71% and wipes them out hilariously fast

on the plus side he doesn't resist light shot lollers

DOwnside - you don't get the option of running it around a lake for 2 hours until it dies of boredom

took it to 20% before rage yesterday, 2 daurgjall brds rotating sv buffs on a bunch of dd, animus minuo and using a song on dirge, pld tanking

np

it also doesnt take people out hilariously fast post rage, booming bombilation becomes mildly threatening to dd(taru may need scherzo) but still pretty easy to hold on pld if you use songs

i just find it stupid that many people are needed for a mob that provides no threat aside from it's survivability, and i really hope sylow is right about a better way to damage them

Well like I said with the turtle

At some point even while raged it started taking triple damage from thunder magic + quick draw and we QUICKLY took it from 30% to under 10% before it used Tortoise Song and appeared to reset its magic defense

Others have reported the Matamata switching between melee weak and magic weak after every TP move

Fish is weak to one element and resists all other elements (including one absorb) at a time

Scorpoion's DD output is actively "crippled" by debuffing it

Gnat seemed to occasionally take full damage from shots + WF but otherwise all magic was ineffective when we fought it

And then promptly re-broke it by cranking the hell out of damage.

cop airship fight was np when you knew what you were doing and knew what to expect, and, well

EDIT: it wasn't really even booming bombilation so much as it was just PLDs getting drilled

I'm reading Wolves of the Calla right now. This got me right in the feels.

i just dont see how you consider getting 1 win then farming soloable content something people will be unable to do

most casuals know at least one decent pld, and beyond that its just a matter of getting some people with the patience to sit through a long boring HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE fight

THat's kinda what I was meaning kelhor, yeah.

...they don't know what the hell they're doing, or--more likely--they just don't care.

Games start to slump when this happens.

If they put a timer on the NMs like they're mulling over in the JP forums it will be the death of casuals in delve

that, and considering how many people (quite a few) had a pretty awful time finding people to go back and help them through painful one-off fights in cop i have to wonder why said people would be more willing to help out with one-off fights that are much harder and take much longer as well

last night i saw a gnat rage and bust up a 99 aegis PLD with 35% -PDT and a 90 ochain with 40% in about 45 seconds

how am i supposed to put a casual-friendly spin on this

inb4 delve displacers

although to be fair 500k to "weaken" a delve nm would be more than fair considering what it opens access to

Any1 like my idea?

anybody unwilling to pay that would be a damn fool