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By Siren.Mosin 2013-05-01 17:49:27
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Obama took away my relic.

I already blamed Obama on pg. 19.

<3 the joke though.
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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2013-05-01 17:49:40
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Get. Thread. Back. On. Topic.

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By Bahamut.Serj 2013-05-01 17:50:25
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It's page 47, how much more topic can be squeezed out? :(
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-05-01 17:50:32
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Asura.Lokimaru said: »
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Hey I did some nice jokes today, I need to recharge my humour still.
Some jokes are like a Hyper Beam MY ***: Super powerful but you gotta wait a bit to do it again.
So how bout them relics?... Ya...
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By Lakshmi.Feint 2013-05-01 17:50:45
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Bahamut.Catlord said: »
Lakshmi.Feint said: »
Bahamut.Catlord said: »
Also, it's amusing to watch enuyasha's posts become more inane by the minute.

Yours are no exception ~.~

Ah, a fan of enuyasha.
You're looking for sehachan or comeatmebro.

Your assumptions are way off base.

Nice try though, keep it up.
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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2013-05-01 17:50:51
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Bahamut.Serj said: »
It's page 47, how much more topic can be squeezed out? :(

The usual QQ'ing.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2013-05-01 17:51:35
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Gaiz, Matsui felz like he has ulcer, Discus!
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2013-05-01 17:51:36
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To make it clear, I +'d for the kitty.

On topic, I hope SE doesn't think giving us the weaponskills without the weapon at all fixes the current problem.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2013-05-01 17:51:56
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
Guess I'll go make a sandwich or something.

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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-05-01 17:52:01
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Lakshmi.Feint said: »
Bahamut.Catlord said: »
Lakshmi.Feint said: »
Bahamut.Catlord said: »
Also, it's amusing to watch enuyasha's posts become more inane by the minute.

Yours are no exception ~.~

Ah, a fan of enuyasha.
You're looking for sehachan or comeatmebro.

Your assumptions are way off base.

Nice try though, keep it up.
calm down kiddies, there's a whole internet to one-up people on, it's not going anywhere

unlike ffxi
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By Siren.Mosin 2013-05-01 17:52:13
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Fenrir.Leoheart said: »
Gaiz, Matsui felz like he has ulcer, Discus!

too much wasabi
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-05-01 17:52:38
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Lakshmi.Aelius said: »
Get. Thread. Back. On. Topic.


PONIES!!...I mean R/M/E rage, go!
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-05-01 17:53:08
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Fenrir.Leoheart said: »
Gaiz, Matsui felz like he has ulcer, Discus!
That was so passive-aggressive of him.
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By Carbuncle.Shokox 2013-05-01 17:53:35
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Lakshmi.Feint said: »
Why even bother posting. Are you a fortune teller or something?

What are tomorrow's winning lottery numbers.

You'd be surprised how often this problem occurs. Major complaints over the years stem from players not having insight into the future, and complaining about initial updates before the content is fleshed out and explored. The most recent one would be on how bad Salvage +1 gear was, before any one actually got any pieces.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-05-01 17:53:47
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Fenrir.Leoheart said: »
Gaiz, Matsui felz like he has ulcer, Discus!
That was so passive-aggressive of him.

All the cool kids have ulcers.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2013-05-01 17:53:50
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Asura.Lokimaru said: »
To make it clear, I +'d for the kitty.

On topic, I hope SE doesn't think giving us the weaponskills without the weapon at all fixes the current problem.

Pretty sure they said it was one thing they were considering doing. Not the only thing, but one of (possibly) many (or few) things.

Probably should have waited to put out these weapons until they had a tangible plan for RME honestly.
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2013-05-01 17:55:01
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Phoenix.Kojo said: »
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Fenrir.Leoheart said: »
Gaiz, Matsui felz like he has ulcer, Discus!
That was so passive-aggressive of him.

All the cool kids have ulcers.
YES, I'm a cool kid!

Ulcers are painful. ;~;
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-05-01 17:55:03
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Bahamut.Serj said: »
Asura.Lokimaru said: »
To make it clear, I +'d for the kitty.

On topic, I hope SE doesn't think giving us the weaponskills without the weapon at all fixes the current problem.

Pretty sure they said it was one thing they were considering doing. Not the only thing, but one of (possibly) many (or few) things.

Probably should have waited to put out these weapons until they had a tangible plan for RME honestly.

The fact that it was their go-to idea to post about doesn't exactly look promising, to me.
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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2013-05-01 17:55:22
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Ranged weapon skills with melee type weapons.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-05-01 17:56:19
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Lakshmi.Aelius said: »
Ranged weapon skills with melee type weapons.

Whole new meaning to "throw away your R/M/E."
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-05-01 17:57:26
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they need to give ninja dart like in ff2

then my excalibur will have a use

(thats not a comment on the patch, before someone else gets their panties in a wad, just on excalibur in general)
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By Cerberus.Zyph 2013-05-01 17:57:53
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Lakshmi.Aelius said: »
Ranged weapon skills with melee type weapons.

Why does your Miqo'te have no eyebrows?
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By Lakshmi.Feint 2013-05-01 17:58:02
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I guess I'm a little surprised that this thread exploded (although I probably shouldn't be). Maybe I just feel some people just made hasty generalizations.

I'm not to fond of the update myself but it's interesting to see SE going in a different direction.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2013-05-01 17:58:32
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
they need to give ninja dart like in ff2

then my excalibur will have a use

(thats not a comment on the patch, before someone else gets their panties in a wad, just on excalibur in general)

>:(

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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2013-05-01 18:00:12
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Phoenix.Kojo said: »
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Ranged weapon skills with melee type weapons.

Whole new meaning to "throw away your R/M/E."

What if the RME's were given them?
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2013-05-01 18:00:26
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Lakshmi.Feint said: »
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Lakshmi.Feint said: »

Fair enough. It may work. Hell, ideally IMO S-E would update FFXI and abandon FFXIV... not going to happen, though.

Your points may have validity.

We just don't know what exactly SE is thinking. They could just be taking ideas from other MMOs and put their own spin on it.

So maybe in 1~2 years we can have a super awesome FFXI, with less servers left. And SE has less resource to continue making FFXI awesome....ok you get it. At that time, no matter how awesome FFXI is, dmg is done and active player base won't recover anymore.

I don't quiet understand why people are so sure of themselves.

Yes people leave the game, but there are many reasons why, not just because of a new update. People also came back to the game as well.

I will agree that communication is key. I'm not to sure of the ideas they have in this update and some clarification would be nice.


Ppl leave the game due to several reasons, some are personal, some because they don't like certain aspect. But if the dev intentionally pissing off large amount of ppl, it speed up the process.

There are ppl coming back all the time, sometimes because they wanted to try it or just missed the game, sometimes because of new expansion.

But generally, player base would get smaller as a whole as the time progress, that ppl coming back won't make up for it. That's why every MMO, including WoW, has less active player after years of release.

FFXIV active player never really recover after all that "fix", I did server check 1~2 months before it shut down, it's still about 1/3 of active FFXI had, and used to be way more when it just launched. That forced SE to re-launch FFXIV with a new title.

You don't want to speed up the process if this MMO is 10 years old and unlikely getting a re-launch. It's not like changing direction would appeal large amount of player coming to FFXI, but you just made a lot of ppl leave. FFXI is dying and eventually would shut down one day, and SE just made it happen faster.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-05-01 18:02:01
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Lakshmi.Aelius said: »
Phoenix.Kojo said: »
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Ranged weapon skills with melee type weapons.

Whole new meaning to "throw away your R/M/E."

What if the RME's were given them?

I don't think that's the point, but if they were, the approval of said WSs would depend on whether or not they are high damaging, or have a added effect use.
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By Siren.Piccollo 2013-05-01 18:03:11
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seems to me lots of players are very upset atm, i for one just got back to ffxi and decided to look for a linkshell sadly all the linkshell leaders I.E. the ppl with R/E/M's at 99 are all going nuts so most linkshell are in transition atm so i cant get one.

and after having a conversation with 1 such leader i realised the people with 99 R/E/M's are the 1% of ffxi players while lots of us do have relics of empys less so mythics were all damaged by this im sure but it seems the 1% are taking it really hard

my situiation is this, last thursday my job the job i love doing that provides for my family and myself was downsized by my company (i was made redundant)
now this is a huge thing to happen to someone but i like to think i took it well, i shook my managers hand as i left and wished my former coworkers well and moved on> infact i wouldent be playing ffxi very much if at all if it wasnt for the fact i was made redundant.
Then here i am playing ffxi and reading the forums and i come across hundreds of people who care so much about something being changed that they are giving up something they enjoy because of it in an uproar.

Now people are entitled to be upset about the update dont get me wrong but getting upset to the extent some people are is ridiculous as lets be honest its going to be what a month? 2 months? until REM are back as the top weapons again and we all know this will happen.

simply put you really just need to get over the fact that a change has been made the players with more ppl backing them up will allways be on top and the soloers like myself will allways fall somewhat behind but its not the end of the world in fact its the begining of a new chapter in adoulin Which has only just begun expect more changes and no doubt many that suit the Rem99 holders perfectly.
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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2013-05-01 18:05:20
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Phoenix.Kojo said: »
Lakshmi.Aelius said: »
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Ranged weapon skills with melee type weapons.

Whole new meaning to "throw away your R/M/E."

What if the RME's were given them?

I don't think that's the point, but if they were, the approval of said WSs would depend on whether or not they are high damaging, or have a added effect use.

Well, in your opinion, what can they do to make the RME's more worthy of obtaining with the current content out there now?
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-01 18:07:14
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SE is in a unique position though, because of FFXIV.

FFXIV was meant to get the players leaving FFXI, giving them another path to follow, another solution, while still being SE's customers.
ARR and Adoulin follow the same logic. Adoulin will give players a certain kind of game/content, while ARR will give another.

In the end, their anticipation is that all players will one day meet ARR's POV. This way, FFXI will close but all the players will be kept in ARR, plus other players who will come from other MMOs, now that a FF online is "mainstream" rather than niche.

Now the issue is that the players leaving FFXI do not all go to FFXIV, and they won't necessarily come back to FFXI either, this is why FFXI is slowly dying whatever they do. It's not a matter of pleasing the playerbase or seducing new players, it's just FFXI's situation, it cannot relaunch itself.
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