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Matsui: "Don't throw away your R/M/E weapons yet"
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2013-05-01 17:12:49
I'd never say that on OF that guy that still works on ffxi might take me seriously when he stops licking his screen and looks at it to see these strange runes telling him stuff
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By Fenrir.Mtmoogle 2013-05-01 17:13:14
The one thing they've done right so far is being able to access storage from Rent-A-Rooms. Holy crap!!! I had no idea!! THANK YOU!1
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-05-01 17:14:23
til the aura of "MY WEAPON IS USELESS" required me to respond. Oh snap, did someone light the dumbsignal in the sky? You can go back to your cave, np we're fine.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2013-05-01 17:16:00
The one thing they've done right so far is being able to access storage from Rent-A-Rooms. Holy crap!!! I had no idea!! THANK YOU!1
np
By Enuyasha 2013-05-01 17:16:03
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »til the aura of "MY WEAPON IS USELESS" required me to respond. Go hassle someone else. I've noticed two types of people in these threads, primarily.
Type 1: Has some relics. Does endgame. Is concerned, primarily, about the future of the game. They may be a little put out that their relic isn't best, but their main concern is that the game they've enjoyed for so long is changing in a manner that may make it no longer enjoyable.
Type 2: Does not have relics. Does not do endgame. Does not read carefully. Assumes all Type 1 people are just upset their weapon was outdated, despite it being stated otherwise about twice a page.
Guess which type you are, champ. Has 2 85 empyreans (planning to get them to 90+ [*** HMP's though], a bit busy with college.) and working on an aegis (which ill get to 99) and i have a utilis shield with 71 colorless souls and 73 azdaja horns to go. Nice try homes, but i have enough reason to be "mad" at this aswell, im a little nauseous from the blow to the stomach, but unlike most "concerned" folk, ill live and still play.
Also, i've done endgame. Try again sir? Would you also like tor eference the first half of this, where people where bitching and crying about the first round of naakual weapons being better? Okay then. Lets just generalize it the way you did. Cause ou know, *** the actual thread and all. Coming back with a whiplash of "im hurt so i have to save face"? cool, i can do that too,scept im very much not in any way hurt by you just tired of all the complaining about adjustments or misteps and the gloom/doom.
Come@mebro,my digital body is so ready for your comebacks.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-05-01 17:16:46
Actually no, shields are the only thing untouched from all this.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-05-01 17:17:48
Coming back with a whiplash of "im hurt so i have to save face"? Wtf..
is this guy real
By Enuyasha 2013-05-01 17:18:18
Actually no, shields are the only thing untouched from all this. Yes, which is why i chose wisely, and notice 2 85's which by the standards of this thread i should just toss them now.
Cool? Okay. And when they DO release and uberawesome trump all shield/instrument/whateverthefuckelse I wont come here and nerdrage. Mkay? Mkay.
I so totally am, wanna see how for real? Guess who will stop responding first.
BTW: if you havent noticed now, i've decided to have more fun at your expense :)
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2013-05-01 17:19:12
See you next month when they release Super Aegis.
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By Sylph.Safiyyah 2013-05-01 17:20:54
I don't think that a straight gear treadmill like World of Warcraft is necessarily better or worse but it cannot work for Final Fantasy:
You have to throw more content at your game if you go with this route. There's just no way around it. FFXI's strength and longevity is due to the fact that progression is achieved through numerous types of systems- Salvage, Dynamis, Voidwatch, Abyssea, etc. and there are a ton of sidegrades. Older content is still relevant in many ways, and most players haven't consumed it all. A gear treadmill requires constant updates, but FFXI doesn't have the development resources behind it like World of Warcraft does.
Blizzard understands that the gear treadmill gets tiring, so WoW has undergone massive gameplay changes since its release. Not so with FFXI. In fact, FFXI cannot support that level of gameplay changes due to the continued outdated support for the PS2.
The player base in this game is aware of WoW. Many of us have played it. I'd bet that most of us have chosen against the linear treadmill-style development of that game.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-05-01 17:21:02
Has 2 85 empyreans (planning to get them to 90+ [*** HMP's though], a bit busy with college.) and working on an aegis (which ill get to 99) and i have a utilis shield with 71 lorless souls and 73 azdaja horns to go. Nice try homes, but i have enough reason to be "mad" at this aswell, im a little nauseous from the blow to the stomach, but unlike most "concerned" folk, ill live and still play. That's all well and good, but nobody has cried about their relics. Your critical reading skills are abysmal, you just came in and yelled at people based on what you perceive. As a player without the time to obtain 99 weapons, you've made a lot of quick judgments about those who do have them: most of them wrong. If you want to prove your case, cite a case of Seha crying about her weapons being outdated.
Quote: Also, i've done endgame. Try again sir? Would you also like tor eference the first half of this, where people where bitching and crying about the first round of naakual weapons being better? Check my post history, I said nothing negative during the first half. Seha did not either. Most of these posters didn't. The people complaining aren't the ones who genuinely enjoy the game and can obtain relics easily: they're the ones who struggle to get an 85 and are upset it's no longer any good. You know, people like yourself.
Quote: Okay then. Lets just generalize it the way you did. Cause ou know, *** the actual thread and all. Coming back with a whiplash of "im hurt so i have to save face"? cool, i can do that too,scept im very much not in any way hurt by you just tired of all the complaining about adjustments or misteps and the gloom/doom. If you're not interested in people's opinions, don't read the forum. We're not going to censor ourselves, just because you're upset that we're talking.
Quote: Come@mebro,my digital body is so ready for your comebacks. Your body might be, but your mind's a few years of development away.
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By Carbuncle.Shokox 2013-05-01 17:21:03
Leviathan.Kincard said: »i will agree that at this point the discussion has already pretty much hit every point possible, so can we start making more meme images already
bonus points to people that post them on OF and get banned 
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By Lakshmi.Feint 2013-05-01 17:22:33
I don't think that a straight gear treadmill like World of Warcraft is necessarily better or worse but it cannot work for Final Fantasy:
You have to throw more content at your game if you go with this route. There's just no way around it. FFXI's strength and longevity is due to the fact that progression is achieved through numerous types of systems- Salvage, Dynamis, Voidwatch, Abyssea, etc. and there are a ton of sidegrades. Older content is still relevant in many ways, and most players haven't consumed it all. A gear treadmill requires constant updates, but FFXI doesn't have the development resources behind it like World of Warcraft does.
Blizzard understands that the gear treadmill gets tiring, so WoW has undergone massive gameplay changes since its release. Not so with FFXI. In fact, FFXI cannot support that level of gameplay changes due to the continued outdated support for the PS2.
The player base in this game is aware of WoW. Many of us have played it. I'd bet that most of us have chosen against the linear treadmill-style development of that game.
May not work*
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By Sylph.Safiyyah 2013-05-01 17:26:39
I don't think that a straight gear treadmill like World of Warcraft is necessarily better or worse but it cannot work for Final Fantasy:
You have to throw more content at your game if you go with this route. There's just no way around it. FFXI's strength and longevity is due to the fact that progression is achieved through numerous types of systems- Salvage, Dynamis, Voidwatch, Abyssea, etc. and there are a ton of sidegrades. Older content is still relevant in many ways, and most players haven't consumed it all. A gear treadmill requires constant updates, but FFXI doesn't have the development resources behind it like World of Warcraft does.
Blizzard understands that the gear treadmill gets tiring, so WoW has undergone massive gameplay changes since its release. Not so with FFXI. In fact, FFXI cannot support that level of gameplay changes due to the continued outdated support for the PS2.
The player base in this game is aware of WoW. Many of us have played it. I'd bet that most of us have chosen against the linear treadmill-style development of that game.
May not work*
Fair enough. It may work. Hell, ideally IMO S-E would update FFXI and abandon FFXIV... not going to happen, though.
By Enuyasha 2013-05-01 17:26:56
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »Has 2 85 empyreans (planning to get them to 90+ [*** HMP's though], a bit busy with college.) and working on an aegis (which ill get to 99) and i have a utilis shield with 71 lorless souls and 73 azdaja horns to go. Nice try homes, but i have enough reason to be "mad" at this aswell, im a little nauseous from the blow to the stomach, but unlike most "concerned" folk, ill live and still play. That's all well and good, but nobody has cried about their relics. Your critical reading skills are abysmal, you just came in and yelled at people based on what you perceive. As a player without the time to obtain 99 weapons, you've made a lot of quick judgments about those who do have them: most of them wrong. If you want to prove your case, cite a case of Seha crying about her weapons being outdated.
Quote: Also, i've done endgame. Try again sir? Would you also like tor eference the first half of this, where people where bitching and crying about the first round of naakual weapons being better? Check my post history, I said nothing negative during the first half. Seha did not either. Most of these posters didn't. The people complaining aren't the ones who genuinely enjoy the game and can obtain relics easily: they're the ones who struggle to get an 85 and are upset it's no longer any good. You know, people like yourself.
Quote: Okay then. Lets just generalize it the way you did. Cause ou know, *** the actual thread and all. Coming back with a whiplash of "im hurt so i have to save face"? cool, i can do that too,scept im very much not in any way hurt by you just tired of all the complaining about adjustments or misteps and the gloom/doom. If you're not interested in people's opinions, don't read the forum. We're not going to censor ourselves, just because you're upset that we're talking.
Quote: Come@mebro,my digital body is so ready for your comebacks. Your body might be, but your mind's a few years of development away. Oh god the assumptions. And the snappy "*** you,im better" comments. I can outlast you dont yaknow. And none of your assumption based powers will save you from my onslaught of answering back by typing, which you seem to have aswell.
Notice, i didt say "you" or your nice deflection target, i said "people". Reading comprehension? perception? Oh yea! Hi there.I've already mentioned how i enjoy the game and dont generally care if they are "obsoleted" because you say so. I also dont "struggle" to get 85's ontrary to popular belief i have "friends" that dont give a strong *** the same as you. Please attempt to tell me how im "mad" because you "percieve" me to be. Or are you using buzz words good sir? I can do that too. Lern2troll.
Also, opinions? where the *** are "opinions" bro? Im sure the lashings of the keyboard are anger struck because of these recent turn of events. You seem to be presenting opinions, i've mearly presented hard core facts about the playerbase that usually rise up with flame and pitchfork to this ***. Please continue on sir, ill have a nice and knee-jerk-***-you-im-bored post ready after you reply.
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By Bahamut.Catlord 2013-05-01 17:27:33
I don't think that a straight gear treadmill like World of Warcraft is necessarily better or worse but it cannot work for Final Fantasy:
You have to throw more content at your game if you go with this route. There's just no way around it. FFXI's strength and longevity is due to the fact that progression is achieved through numerous types of systems- Salvage, Dynamis, Voidwatch, Abyssea, etc. and there are a ton of sidegrades. Older content is still relevant in many ways, and most players haven't consumed it all. A gear treadmill requires constant updates, but FFXI doesn't have the development resources behind it like World of Warcraft does.
Blizzard understands that the gear treadmill gets tiring, so WoW has undergone massive gameplay changes since its release. Not so with FFXI. In fact, FFXI cannot support that level of gameplay changes due to the continued outdated support for the PS2.
The player base in this game is aware of WoW. Many of us have played it. I'd bet that most of us have chosen against the linear treadmill-style development of that game.
May not work*
Will not work*
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-05-01 17:27:45
Still don't see this imaginary "people".
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2013-05-01 17:27:46
Oh my god, you're 12 years old, get out.
Bahamut.Catlord
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By Bahamut.Catlord 2013-05-01 17:29:20
Also, it's amusing to watch enuyasha's posts become more inane by the minute.
By Enuyasha 2013-05-01 17:29:48
Also, it's amusing to watch enuyasha's posts become more inane by the minute. Your wlcome<3 Its amusing to me aswell because i just respond when prompted to, because you know, nonsensical typing for no reason is my specialty when provoked.
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2013-05-01 17:31:01
The inverse argument is being given here ad nauseum. "Thats how WoW did, so it must be awesome horrible if FFXI is like that."
If you invest your hard earned money in a company, would you rather invest in a company with no clear plan on what they gonna do next, while pissing off main customer base for another customer base they're unlikely to get?
I won't, and if I already did I have right to rant.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-05-01 17:31:16
Your speciality seems to be making a fool of yourself, actually.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-05-01 17:31:41
He got one thing right, he can keep going longer than I can.
Can make himself look like an idiot more effectively than I can, too.
Guess I'll go make a sandwich or something.
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By Enuyasha 2013-05-01 17:31:51
Your speciality seems to be making a fool of yourself, actually. and you aswell, you could just ignore me. In fact do it, this is my little game now missy :)
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »He got one thing right, he can keep going longer than I can.
Can make himself look like an idiot more effectively than I can, too.
Guess I'll go make a sandwich or something. I guess a superior fortitude and ability to lower myself to your level is a bit intimidating. Its okay man,this is how these threads die anyway.
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-05-01 17:32:25
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »Guess I'll go make a sandwich or something. The sandwich will probably have more intelligent things to say than him anyway.
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Lakshmi.Feint
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By Lakshmi.Feint 2013-05-01 17:32:52
I don't think that a straight gear treadmill like World of Warcraft is necessarily better or worse but it cannot work for Final Fantasy:
You have to throw more content at your game if you go with this route. There's just no way around it. FFXI's strength and longevity is due to the fact that progression is achieved through numerous types of systems- Salvage, Dynamis, Voidwatch, Abyssea, etc. and there are a ton of sidegrades. Older content is still relevant in many ways, and most players haven't consumed it all. A gear treadmill requires constant updates, but FFXI doesn't have the development resources behind it like World of Warcraft does.
Blizzard understands that the gear treadmill gets tiring, so WoW has undergone massive gameplay changes since its release. Not so with FFXI. In fact, FFXI cannot support that level of gameplay changes due to the continued outdated support for the PS2.
The player base in this game is aware of WoW. Many of us have played it. I'd bet that most of us have chosen against the linear treadmill-style development of that game.
May not work*
Fair enough. It may work. Hell, ideally IMO S-E would update FFXI and abandon FFXIV... not going to happen, though.
Your points may have validity.
We just don't know what exactly SE is thinking. They could just be taking ideas from other MMOs and put their own spin on it.
 Leviathan.Eblan
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By Leviathan.Eblan 2013-05-01 17:33:15
I still think the issue aren't the weapons but the time we spent playing this game. We learned to live by some rules, we knew how the system worked and embraced it. It all vanished now.
Lakshmi.Feint
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By Lakshmi.Feint 2013-05-01 17:33:41
Why even bother posting. Are you a fortune teller or something?
What are tomorrow's winning lottery numbers.
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By Enuyasha 2013-05-01 17:33:48
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »Guess I'll go make a sandwich or something. The sandwich will probably have more intelligent things to say than him anyway. Intelligence went out the window as soon as you came in sorry to say. Im resorting to just thinking and typing whatever comes to mind now :)
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2013-05-01 17:33:54
Sometimes I feel like the internet should require a picture of the poster before they can express their opinions.
Anonymity is far too abusable when there's no consequences.
| 04-26-2013 12:52 PM | | Akihiko Matsui | | Dev Team |  |
| | I'd like to deeply apologize for mentioning "Don’t throw away your relic, mythic, and empyrean weapons" during an interview. Relic, mythic, and empyrean (below R/M/E weapons) take a great deal of time and difficulty to obtain, and this expression was extremely lacking in consideration for all of the players who tried so hard to complete them.
What I wished to convey was that we will be implementing a system to build on R/M/E weapons, so please have them in your possession, and there was no other meaning intended.
In regards to this system, the outline has been finished; however, we have yet to test if what we have planned can be realized and if we can secure the proper amount of manpower to continue it. We are at a point in time right now where it's difficult to explain the details, so please allow us to discuss this another day.
For the Adoulin end-game content aimed at the top players, where they can obtain high level equipment as well, we will gradually make adjustments to difficulty so that once new end-game content is released you'll be able to obtain these items if you put in a bit of effort.
Also, we will similarly be adjusting content in existing areas, though it may take some time and be a limited time event. | |
| 05-09-2013 10:15 AM | | Slycer | | BG Translator |  |
| | Matsui: Follow up on Level 99 Relic, Mythic, Empyrean, and Coin Weapons
Hello, it's Matsui. Thank you for all of your opinions about Relic, Mythic, Empyrean, and Coin weapons (hereafter, RMEC). They were very helpful.
After reading all of the varied opinions, we have decided that rather than unlocking the weapon skills specific to each weapon, a reworking of RME weapons would be more effective (for coin weapons, more information will be provided later, but we plan to allow these to unlock the dedicated weapon skills).
I have written and reorganized this in various ways and it has become quite lengthy with examples. After you have gotten a chance to look over it, please let us know if you have any further opinions.
Content Level
We received many questions about the parameters of Adoulin equipment. Because this is an important part in order to be able to understand the reworking of RME so you can provide your opinion, please allow me to repeat the explanation for content level and growth in Seekers of Adoulin.
In Adoulin, the basic design is a repeated play cycle where players become stronger and stronger as they align themselves with equipment obtained from challenging content which, in turn, allows them to take on even more challenging content.
By aligning themselves with this equipment, players will continue to grow even without leveling up.
The content level of Adoulin content is set as follows:
[[Info below is much better formatted in a table on the original post.]]
20: Delve (Boss Monsters) (Current)
17: Wildskeeper Reive (New Additions) (Next Version Update)
14: Delve NMs (Tier 2) (Current)
13: Skirmish (New Additions) (Next Version Update)
11: Delve NMs (Tier 1) (Current)
6-9: Colonization / Lair Reives (New Additions) (Next Version Update)
7: Wildskeeper Reive (Current)
6: Skirmish (Current)
1-5: Colonization/Lair Reives (Current)
The strength of the equipment that can be obtained, rather than the level of the equipment, will be dependent on the content level. The equipment to be added later in Adoulin will of course be equippable at level 99, but the level of the equipment parameters would be even higher to match the content level (for example, similar to what level 110 or 120 equipment might look like).
While the strength of the monsters which appear is determined to match the content level, in order to fill out the hierarchy between content to some extent, we have designed monsters of variable strength. The parameters of the equipment that can be obtained in Adoulin is set by determining the parameters that would be necessary to compete with those monsters.
The level of current and planned content is set to minimize the gaps between content level, but we may also insert additional intermediate content if the jump between levels remains too high.
In some cases, content variations will cause content to cover multiple levels. We also plan to enhance the amount of content available horizontally at individual levels, rather than just vertically over the content level range.
The content in the next version update will be added with this in mind.
Referencing the "next version update" items above, it will be possible to add new colonization and lair reive equipment purchasable for Bayld in the level 6~9 range (which currently includes Skirmish and Wildskeeper Reives). In addition, we will be inserting new content at levels 13 and 17.
Also, one part of smoothing out the content level will be adjusted in a maintenance to be carried out of the end of this week: we will be adding a fixed probability to obtain the items needed to enter Skirmishes (Simulacrum Segments) from Lair and Colonization Reives. (This adjustment is unrelated to the current rules associated with coalition assignments, gathering, and Soul Pyres.)
By making this adjustment, the assumed progression will be:
1. First, take on lair and colonization reives.
2. As a result of those battles, obtain Simulacrum Segments.
3. Combine the segments in order to enter Skirmishes.
Reworking RMEC
Please excuse my lengthy explanation above. I'll now return to the topic at hand.
First off, since it is necessary for the development staff to further consider the implementation, we cannot guarantee the timeframe as far as whether it will be included in the next version update.
Regarding the types of parameters that would be reworked, special abilities such as Aftermath and Afterglow will remain, while parameters such as the DMG rating, attack, and accuracy will be set to match the content level post-rework.
Since the parameters will be reworked to become aligned with high content difficulty, we do not intend to rework it in small intervals such as with the previous method of Trial of the Magians.
Prior to now, RME were considered the strongest weapons, so I think there will need to be some change to this viewpoint. For those who have RME, you may not require the other weapons, but there now be a choice among other comparable weapons.
If you are worried about how these weapons will be able to be used, for example, against Delve boss monsters, here are some parameters which we are looking at for the reworking. This is just for RME one-handed swords as an example:
Excalibur
DMG:73 Delay:233 Attack+40
"Knights of Round"
Additional effect: Damage varies with HP
to
DMG:121 Delay:233 Attack+60 Accuracy+20
"Knights of Round"
Additional effect: Damage varies with HP
Burtgang
DMG:73 Delay:264 Enmity+18
Physical damage taken-18% Reduces Enmity decrease when taking damage
"Atonement"
Aftermath: Increases Acc./Atk./Occ. attacks twice or thrice
to
DMG:131 Delay:264 Attack+20 Accuracy+20 Enmity+18
Physical damage taken-18% Reduces Enmity decrease when taking damage
"Atonement"
Aftermath: Increases Acc./Atk./Occ. attacks twice or thrice
Almace
DMG:70 Delay:224 DEX+20
"Chant du Cygne"
Aftermath: Occ. deals double damage
to
DMG:114 Delay:224 Attack+20 Accuracy+20 DEX+20
"Chant du Cygne"
Aftermath: Occ. deals double damage
Since coin weapons were originally just intended to be used for Empyrean weapon skills, based on the concept, I believe that instead of reworking them, they can be used to open the dedicated weapon skills (with certain level and job restrictions). We are currently considering the adjustment procedures necessary for this..
In conclusion
I've gone on for a while, so considering the reworking for level 99 Relic, Mythic, and Empyrean weapons as well as the unlocking of dedicated weapon skills via Coin weapons, please let us know your opinions. We will read through your thoughts one by one to make sure we understand your point of view.
Note that this is a large departure from the original plan. Considering the feasibility of scheduling this change, the development may take some time.
I apologize for keeping you waiting on my response.
Thanks in advance!
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| 05-09-2013 2:19 PM | | Akihiko Matsui | | Dev Team | |
| | Follow-up: Level 99 Relic, Mythic, Empyrean, and Walk of Echoes Weapons
Matsui here.
Thank you all so much for the feedback on relic, mythic, empyrean, and Walk of Echoes weapons. It has helped out tremendously.
After reading over all of your feedback, instead of continuing the growth of these weapons by unlocking the weapon skills that are tied to each of the weapons, I feel it would be better to perform a revamp on RME weapons. (Regarding Walk of Echoes weapons, I will talk about this below, but they will be involved with unlocking the specialized weapon skills.)
I've been reworking a lot, and writing it all up, but it seems the post turned out rather lengthy, so once you have been able to read through it all and digest it we'd love to hear your feedback.
Content Level
We've received a lot of questions about the stats on Adoulin equipment, and I'd like to once again explain about growth and content levels in Seekers of Adoulin as this is a critical aspect in order to receive feedback on the revamps for RME weapons.
The content in Adoulin has been designed with a repeating play-cycle where you challenge content that you are able to at that moment in time, gather equipment, become stronger, and then take on higher tier content which will allow you to gather even stronger equipment.
It's through the procurement of equipment that will allow players to grow and level up.
We've established content levels for Adoulin content as a means to objectively display difficulty benchmarks. The below is a concrete illustration of these content levels.
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Equipment strength is dependent on the level of the content you need to challenge in order to obtain the equipment, not the level in which it can be equipped. With the gear that is released in Adoulin from here on out, they can be equipped at level 99; however, instead of considering these to be level 99 pieces of equipment, it would be better for you to think of their level in terms of the content level (for example, level 110 or level 120).
The strength of the monsters that will be introduced are matched to that of the content level, but since there is somewhat of a solidified hierarchy between content, it's been setup so that the strength can be felt with even one level difference in content level. Oppositely, the parameters on Adoulin equipment have been calculated and set in order to deal with these monsters.
Fundamentally we will be making it so that the content level for content to come in the future continues to become higher, but there may be cases where we fill in areas where there is a large jump in content level as needed.
Also, in order to make it so there are various types of content sprawled across a single content level, we are supplementing it with content variations. We've also designed plans to enable resting periods where we will expand laterally instead of vertically, because players may get burnt out going full steam ahead.
In the next version update we will be adding content focusing on filling in the gaps as well as supplementing with content variation.
In the above chart, please look at the “Next version update (currently adjusting)” column. For content levels 6-9 (Skirmish/Wildskeeper Reives), we will be adding equipment appropriate for these content levels that can be exchanged for Bayld along with new Colonization and Lair Reives. Additionally, we will be filling in content for levels 13 and 17.
For those players who are already able to take on Skirmish, Wildskeeper Reives, and Delve at this point in time, it will not be absolutely necessary to challenge this content, but we will be making the above adjustments in case you want to increase your success rate, or are feeling that the current situation is still a bit tough.
Also, as a plan to resolve the issue where Skirmish is not really connecting the content as was planned, we will be undergoing maintenance at the end of this week and making it so statue segments can be obtained from Colonization and Lair Reives at a set rate. (These adjustments are separate from the rules associated with obtaining these items via Coalition Assignments, HELM, and Soul Pyres.)
By performing these adjustments we envision the below flow:
Challenge Colonization and Lair Reives
Obtain statue segments by participating in these reives
Challenge Skirmish with the parts you have obtained
Weapon Revamps
Sorry, I got off track for a bit, but now I'd like to return to the topic at hand.
To start off, I still need to discuss the implementation period with the rest of the development team, so it will be a bit difficult to address this immediately in the next version update, and we cannot make any promises as to when this will take place.
In regards to the kind of stats that will be added when we revamp these weapons, fundamentally the afterglow and aftermath effects as well as the other special stats will carry over and we'll be setting damage values, attack, and accuracy stats to coincide with the content level.
While the stats will be quite strong, we do not plan on making it possible to continuously enhance them in short intervals like the original method of enhancing via Trial of the Magians.
However, RME weapons have been considered the ultimate weapons up until this point in time, but I feel that this needs to change a bit.
I would like to make a shift so that instead of having it so that other weapons aren't necessary if you have RME weapons, you have a choice. If you are happy with RME, then you can use RME, and for those who want other weapons you can use other weapons.
With that said, there may be players who are worried if these weapons will eventually become unusable, but to give an example we had the lead make some calculations for the stats needed to combat the Delve boss monsters, and the below is what the RME swords would look like:
Excalibur
DMG: 73 Delay: 233 Attack+40 "Knights of Round" Additional effect: Damage varies with HP |
DMG: 121 Delay: 233 Attack+60 Accuracy+20 "Knights of Round" Additional effect: Damage varies with HP |
Burtgang
DMG: 73 Delay: 264 Enmity+18 Physical damage taken -18% Reduces Enmity decrease when taking damage. "Atonement" Aftermath: Increases Acc./Atk./Occ. Attacks twice or thrice |
DMG: 131 Delay: 264 Attack+20 Accuracy+20 Enmity+18 Physical damage taken -18% Reduces Enmity decrease when taking damage. "Atonement" Aftermath: Increases Acc./Atk./Occ. Attacks twice or thrice |
Almace
DMG: 70 Delay: 224 DEX+20 "Chant du Cygne" Aftermath: Occ. deals double damage |
DMG: 114 Delay: 224 Attack+20 Accuracy+20 DEX+20 "Chant du Cygne" Aftermath: Occ. deals double damage |
In regards to Walk of Echoes weapons, these were implemented with the concept of allowing players to use the specialized empyrean weapon skills, so instead of revamping them we felt it more appropriate to have them serve to unlock the weapons skills (planning to have restrictions based on jobs and level). Also, we are looking into adjustments for the method to create Walk of Echoes weapons.
In conclusion…
Apologies that this post is so long, but based on all of the above we would love to hear your feedback on the revamps to level 99 RME weapons and unlocking weapon skills with Walk of Echoes weapons.
I will be sure to read over each and every comment you all post.
My thoughts and ideas have completely turned around the plans that were originally drawn up, and I had to sit and really discuss the idea with the rest of the development team, including the possibilities of making this happen.
I apologize that this response was late and that I made you all wait.
Thank you all very much. | |
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