Matsui: "Don't Throw Away Your R/M/E Weapons Yet"

You are correct. I saw the writing on the wall and unsubbed all 3+ of my accounts. FFxi was the only MMO I ever stuck with for over 6 months, let alone the 10 years I've played. It was mostly because of the final fantasy lore and attachment to the series.
Idk really. To me ever since ToAU the game had begun accelerating. It's to the point now where it's not sustainable. Truth be told this hasn't really been ffxi for the past 2-3 years. For good or bad, the people that wanted/liked the WoW model have won. Truth be told I liked level sync when they implemented it. If I had to point to one thing that led us down this path though, it would be that. In the early years you usually identified a player by their job. That identity quickly fell away during the ToAU/level sync/smn burn era though. I won't bother to go any further on that. It's moot now.
Anyway, It was a good ride SE.

I'm curious, why are you calling be my ffxiah account name? The only character that ever existed by that name was a level 1 mule I used to sell off my gear the first time I quit. I've never posted on that account. If you wanted to act cool by pretending to know who I am or anything about me, the better choice would be to say Thorny.

If you honestly don't believe it was RDM duoable, you're just bad. We duoed damn near everything in visions on RDM, though sometimes we had to piggyback exp parties for time.

To be honest it worked that way with old NMs/HNMs aswell.

FFXI has survived many "nerfs" that caused 30+ page bitchfests. Its not new at all. Even "possible" "nerfs". If people dont like the game anymore, thats understandable, just dont go bitching about it while playing it and then constantly do it. Then, when its all fine and dandy, dont try to save face and act like nothing happened. This is all im saying. Wait it out, feelings are bad, etc.etc.etc.

From Matsui's response to being asked about RUN R/E.

Anyway, I took that to imply that they do intend to release an Adoulin prestige weapon line. My point earlier, which was probably poorly made, was that this new content is the road to these new fancy-pants, yet-to-be-named weapons. I just think people are being a little too short-sighted with this new content. /shrug

Thorny is correct here; I used to solo/duo a ton of stuff in Abyssea for cash and fun at 80 cap, pre-Atma etc too.

It's not because ppl are short sighted, it's because SE are bad at communicating.

They might even release "AF4" sets with that wording too.

They've nerfed stuff before and made bits of content irrelevant yes, and I have always been one of the people to say wait it out till things settle. To pretend it is anything on the scale of what they have done now however I'd have to be wearing a bag over my head.

If only I were awesome. Lets call it a draw.


I don't quantify rage levels when it comes to Relic-type weapons. That's because there has always been a history of complaints when it comes to these weapons:

1) People complained that original relics would take years of dynamis to complete (Justified complaints)
2) Complaints that mythics would invalidate having relics.
3) People complained that Alex count was too great for mythics (Justified, reduced from 50k to 30k.) Also complaints that there were too many requisites to complete a weapon.
4) People again complained about 30k Alex is too great regardless.
5) Complaints that Emp weapons invalidate the need for Relic or Mythic.
6) Complaints that Emp weapons are far too easy to build versus Relics and Mythics. (Justified, Dynamis revamped)
7) Complaints that progressing Emps from 90 to 99 was far too difficult vs Relics and Mythics.
8) Complaints that Alex market dried up. (Justified, NNI and Neo Salvage fix)
9) Complaints that Mythic WS aren't up to par at lvl 99.

That doesn't even include the slew of complaints regarding the weapons themselves. My entire point is, when it comes to "major" relic complaints, SE comes through as best they can to please players (even if they take damn forever).

oh, my bad lol

anyway, my point was just that delve nms do seem quite a bit above abyssea in difficulty, as someone that jumped into both right off

Very true. And that's the main reason I tend to reserve judgement on their decisions until they've been fleshed out a bit more.

Did everyone enjoy adl/qilin/salvage spam that much?

Also why did everyone went from "Omg gimp you don't have a 99 r/e ***take 3 weeks to make" to "Omg they outdated my hard work with new stuff" ?

"Survived"? More like losing players every time when players don't like the direction.

Except this time the scale is bigger, even if you don't care you'd still get affected with less ppl to play with.

If by 2014 only half of players left because of this decision, do you think FFXI "survived", or do you think it's a lose for everyone, including SE and current active players?

I read it as, they're going to get Relic/Empyrean armor in terms of quality, but it may have a different name to fit in with the lore. Likewise with the Mythic weapon bit.

That's not even the main reason why ppl rant about it......

I don't think most of the people are upset their stuff got outdated, they're upset that the model changed so drastically so fast. There are many MMOs that have the resources to outdate gear every few months, SE is not one of them. If they head that way, it's most likely a crash and burn.

But this time they clearly intend to erase the concept of R/E/M and changed the fundamental game concept, so it's different.

Even with a limb cut off you "survived" the loss of blood. The game is "surviving" off lots of people with dualboxed alts and lots of mules. it has always survived this way. The bad elements rage quit,the better,more dedicated elements reap the rewards. Plus, theres PLENT of RMTs paying hundreds of dollars to entertain the people who are waiting the end out. This is not the end of the game "yet" and people constantly complaining and prophesying "The End of An Era" for XI can just leave too. Because it makes no since to stay if you are just staying to sit in PJ waiting for that final R0.

Also, "so drastically so fast" Matsui TOLD US he had it planned to have a tiered gear get system. Did we not forget this conversation? Trying to erase R/E/M? How the hell do you get coalition/Skirmish/Delve/anything entry level without R/E/M?

Illogical bitching, stop it til we get some damage control from SE or the updates ACTUALLY HAPPEN.

I can def agree with this point of view, but that's not what I see on gw/people tell as QQing, if you're unhappy cause you think they can't keep up with this model fair enough, but if it's because your 99 apoc got outdated, I don't get it.

Apparently you have no idea how MMORPG works. You just want the game to design the way you want.

yea, screw those people

making a relic nowadays ain't mean ***

clearly this is your motive. As is the doomsayer propheies you are spinning out.

How many pages ago did this change into "I'm cool, you suck!" vs "No, I'm cool, YOU suck?"

You can get those without R/E/M though :)

SE is pretty notorious for taking a long time to do anything. It's doubtful they'll be fixing anything quickly.

They have an absolutely huge list of ***they have said they were going to do that hasn't been touched. Just look at how long it took them to make storage accessible from rent-a-rooms...

You'd only survive if you apply proper first aid and even then you're likely to die of infection or other complications as well. If you cut your arm off and stand there and stare at it then you'll die.

Currently forum.square-enix.com is down ( at least to me ) ... oh the irony!