Matsui: "Don't Throw Away Your R/M/E Weapons Yet"

Is is too hard for them to say "sorry we screwed up"? Why change the whole game in one update and try to fix everything they unbaranced in 20 more updates and lose tons of players?

CTRL + Z God damn it.

Go back, fix the new weapons and new delve stuff to be good and awesome and not making REMs a joke.

you only need a few people running 16 alts with every one of them capped on mules (which, a few players are) to fund this game...they prolly have been dipping into the XI money cause this game is incredibly cheaper to maintain than anything else.

If they only added things that people asked for, this game would've been dead five years ago or more. It's their job to stay ahead of the curve. Those that actually understand balance and game design are few and far between. The loudest voices are typically the most inane on those subjects.

If the person who is forcing you to read these threads with a gun pointing at your head can see this,


Mr/Mrs you would be doing us all a favor.

It was a partial joke on my end. However, I've been saying the exact same things for over a year now, and I have definitely been awaiting this blow-up for a while because I knew the exact knee-jerk reaction would happen from the players.

The guy may have 7 posts on the forums, but he's exactly correct on almost everything he stated-- the game was dying, and extremely stale, and yet when people actually get a decent update that not only revamps and breathes a new life into the game, but adds a significant challenge, the "end-of-the-world" reaction came from the players.

Of course SE will buff R/M/E/C. People shouldn't even doubt this. However, what people aren't ready to hear is that from here on out, there's a high chance that buffing your weapon will be far a difficult task to do.

The expansion will bring on a REAL challenge that hasn't been seen since early Zilart and early CoP (before all of the content nerfs and extended merit additions). And people will complain for a while, and later adapt and have fun. The hardcore and well teamed players will again be separated from the casual. It doesn't mean that casual and soloists won't have anything to do, SE has always provided for them too, even during Tanaka's time.

Where I disagree with the poster is that bitching will do something, but it won't be as big a reaction as people are expecting in the past.

To be honest, I've been awaiting a challenge for a number of years now, as the only thing that ever gotten me this excited has been Salvage and Limbus. Abyssea to Voidwatch and nerfed Neo Nyzul Isle has been a joke, and I just came back to Neo Salvage and enjoying that.

IF you think people are complaining cause Delve NM are tough then you haven't got a clue.

Already got my pre-order in. How about you?

If SE had more players coming in they might be able to pull it off but I think it is safe to say that what they have is keeping current players and trying to bring old ones back. It's not even just that it's an old game it just isn't new player friendly.

You are confusing me saying "they shouldn't add something people didn't ask for if its not necessary" with me saying "they should never add anything people don't ask for". I meant they shouldn't add something a bunch of people obviously don't want.

also adding weapons that invalidate every other piece of equipment released in the past 6 months in the same level bracket and then offering a solution that shows no understanding of the uses of REM doesn't give people a lot of confidence in their understanding of balance and game design either

So they are complaining about random weapons that have been added that "invalidates" their current R/M/E/C?

I think it's you guys who haven't a clue as it's usually the same BS complaints more over. Most of you dudes complain about just about everything SE provides, regardless of the challenge or fix, or buff, or whatever.

SE makes half-hearted update, gets worse reaction, some players quit, the margin of revenue that ffxi/ffxiv costs are eating becomes less, we get worse updates.

Said it before but there's there's a clear parallel between the declining quality of this game, and the creation of Rapture.

Not true. We were here last month talking about how good it was that they were fixing broken mechanics.

I agree with you Shokox. I just think Darkjoker finally blew up about reading these posts that come after every single update.

People are complaining that there is now significantly less to do in the game for reasons beyond "for the lulz" among other things.

there's always someone complaining about the latest patch but the people who are supportive of SE always make a mistake of conflating all these people into some kind of hivemind that complains about everything always

Get ready for the flame brigade guysYou cant say that enough without getting negative posts thrown at you to save face. You are exactly correct. All the bitching over amazing updates cause there was one [possibly] NEEDED Nerf or that all the gear introduced were "sidegrades" or that an event wasnt "what we wanted" well, now you get what you want mixed with a small sample of "OMFG THATS NOT GOOD AT ALL FOR ME" and the world ends.

Get over it. the update will come a week after you've given all your gil/items away/deleted your character and guess what: The playerbase will be the BETTER for it.

@Shokox

do you know what eloquent means?

I'm usually one of the people that can't stand all the bitching after every update but this is pretty BS and the anger is warranted.

If I had to guess, more players have quit due to lack of things to do/repetitiveness that the game has fallen into other than because of an update of events/gear. Dedicated players that have been around this long, aren't going anywhere...no matter how much they QQ. -Darkjoker

They might get more money selling this book since lots of people are quitting.

Is there a like button in this forum (sry new) I see some ppl can "like" some posts if not, I wish there was a like button because this thread has helped me feel a lot better somehow.

I don't think SE would go bankrupt if FFXI shut down or suffer from major server merge next year(it may not happen if SE fix this R/E/M issue as quickly as possible), but it will affect my confidence in FFXIV >.> SE just showed that they're very good at killing an MMORPG with bad decision making.

And FFXIV fail=dead SE for real.

You also had people complain about the ease of the transition to the new land, (because of no boating there), people complaining about how the initial fixes to enmity is "broken" (when it wasn't fully implemented yet), people complaining about Neo Nyzul Isle post Embrava (when it's still just as easy regardless), and another assortment of complaints I can't be bothered to type on.

I've always advocated that people should be patient and give Matsui time. He's worlds better than Tanaka, and will provide us with content that people will enjoy for years to come.

I agree, it does hurt my confidence in them as a team, but Devs should never ever question a decision they make based on the idea "nobody asked for this." There's a ton wrong with their proposition towards REM weapons, none of which is "nobody asked for this."

Whether or not the last patch is a poor choice or not is yet to be seen. Equally as many people complained about Abyssea, if not more, and it revitalized the game in my opinion (Followed by total failure on SE's part).

I might get pummeled for this, but am I the only person who misses Tanaka and the content he brought us over near enough the past decade? (pre-abyssea)

I thought we all agreed that SE had been kept afloat through all their terrible decisions in recent years largely due to the revenue stream FFXI provides?

Why does no one CC me on the memos of when stuff like that changes?

Nope, atleast two of us.

I heard we get another satchel/sack if we buy the book.

Do you know what sarcasm means?