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By Otomis 2013-05-01 14:34:38
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Ragnarok.Presidentobama said: »
On ME I don't care if the weapon skill carries over. But due to relic weapons themselves having a cut scene and talking to you. I would feel weird using that weapon skill on something that didn't possess that soul of the weapon.

Maybe FF dimensions is in me as that sword talked to the dark knight the whole game. But it would feel to weird. When I made my empy I didn't have the same attachment as no major CS.

This is not my video; but yes, it did feel great having something worked for so hard be personal with a little CS and all.
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By Odin.Almont 2013-05-01 14:37:08
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This has got to be THE stupidest, least thought-out idea I've ever seen SE roll out over their entire 10-yr run of stupid ideas.
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2013-05-01 14:49:24
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Congrats to everyone who made a mythic. You spent months of work doing Einherjar, NI, and Assault reclears, and 30k alex, for access to a WS that only needs 250 WS points to get.

Good job SE. Good job.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-05-01 14:49:59
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I know there's some 470 pound hambeast of a guy out there, somewhere, who lives in a basement, leeching their neighbor's WiFi to play FFXI, and he only bathes during updates, he gets out of the shower an hour and a half later, returns to his computer to see the details of the update and he's all like "WTF?! Did I seriously wash my balls for THIS?!"
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By Sylph.Mirvana 2013-05-01 14:52:06
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This idea is an imbarance-ment to us all.

(yeeah.......)
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By Valefor.Sapphire 2013-05-01 14:56:48
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Bismarck.Helel said: »
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Not sure if it's being discussed here yet or not, but one of Matsui's posts is regarding the possibility of unlocking empyrean and relic WSs off of the emp/relic if you own the 99 version of the weapon. The implications of something like Catastrophe, Namas, Coronach, Kaiten, or Chant du Cygne on one of these new weaps is making me awfully frisky.

I'd be down for that. Namas arrow on the new bow would be pretty amazing. They do, however, need to seriously introduce a better gun, or coronach is absolutely useless (unless you could somehow use it on COR after unlocking it). I'm really wondering whether they inputted the incorrect damage values because the gun is so far behind the new bows that it's not even funny.
One of the devs is obviously a bow ranger and thinks your love of guns is wrong :P

It seems like a tragic waste of some really cool looking RE models if they just let you unlock ws from your 99 RE weap and use it on generic adoulin weapon.

I'm still baffled as to why the new weapons cant just be a sidegrade alternative to damage buffed 99 RMEs, people would still do adoulin content. Jeopardizing participation or interest in all the content linked to R/M/E weapon building and upgrading seems wholly unnecessary.
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By Enuyasha 2013-05-01 14:56:58
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And theres the bastardized engrish word, called it :<

Meh, The game survived the great aby purge and it will survive the great ragequit of 2013.
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By Otomis 2013-05-01 14:57:24
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Phoenix.Kojo said: »
I know there's some 470 pound hambeast of a guy out there, somewhere, who lives in a basement, leeching their neighbor's WiFi to play FFXI, and he only bathes during updates, he gets out of the shower an hour and a half later, returns to his computer to see the details of the update and he's all like "WTF?! Did I seriously wash my balls for THIS?!"

WTF? that made lol'd rather hard actually.
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By Ramuh.Darkjoker 2013-05-01 15:00:17
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I'm tired of reading about everyone's butthurt. The new endgame is coming and you guys need to get a grip. The expansion hasn't even been out two months and you think this is the end of life as we know it. This is the end of the beginning, sure. But the content that will be released from here on out will be something major. R/E/M will get the overhaul...chill dafaq out. Now you have something to do besides afk in PJ and spend 2 hours (almost 10% of your entire day) in dynamis. I'm sure once you get the new weapons and then even more powerful weapons get released you'll be back to QQing your arses off, once again. Live with it. FFXI has become static. No big movements and no big changes. It was time for something to shake this game from the norm it's carried for the past 11 years. When the level cap raises came out, everyone QQ'ed then. The game changed, and players adapted. The Zilart era came and went. The CoP era came and went. The ToAU era came and went, the WotG era (albeit, not much of it was any good) came and went. The Abyssea era is over, and now is the time for the Adoulin era. Learn to live with it. Plenty of QQ's were spilled along the way but b*tching ain't gonna do sh*t. So, you want to quit. Good. Be gone. No one cares. At least now I can log on and do something other than dyna and VW. You guys should be excited for some change. If not, accept the fact and just spare my eyes the agony of logging on to ffxiah and seeing this thread constantly on the front page full of posts that no one gives a rat's a$$ about.

-Too many f*cks have been given.
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By Valefor.Omnys 2013-05-01 15:00:30
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Phoenix.Kojo said: »
I know there's some 470 pound hambeast of a guy out there, somewhere, who lives in a basement, leeching their neighbor's WiFi to play FFXI, and he only bathes during updates, he gets out of the shower an hour and a half later, returns to his computer to see the details of the update and he's all like "WTF?! Did I seriously wash my balls for THIS?!"

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By Asura.Ina 2013-05-01 15:01:02
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Ramuh.Darkjoker said: »
I'm tired of reading about everyone's butthurt.
So don't read it?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-05-01 15:03:44
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Ramuh.Darkjoker said: »
So, you want to quit. Good. Be gone. No one cares
The company should.
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By Carbuncle.Shokox 2013-05-01 15:04:17
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Ramuh.Darkjoker said: »
I'm tired of reading about everyone's butthurt. The new endgame is coming and you guys need to get a grip. The expansion hasn't even been out two months and you think this is the end of life as we know it. This is the end of the beginning, sure. But the content that will be released from here on out will be something major. R/E/M will get the overhaul...chill dafaq out. Now you have something to do besides afk in PJ and spend 2 hours (almost 10% of your entire day) in dynamis. I'm sure once you get the new weapons and then even more powerful weapons get released you'll be back to QQing your arses off, once again. Live with it. FFXI has become static. No big movements and no big changes. It was time for something to shake this game from the norm it's carried for the past 11 years. When the level cap raises came out, everyone QQ'ed then. The game changed, and players adapted. The Zilart era came and went. The CoP era came and went. The ToAU era came and went, the WotG era (albeit, not much of it was any good) came and went. The Abyssea era is over, and now is the time for the Adoulin era. Learn to live with it. Plenty of QQ's were spilled along the way but b*tching ain't gonna do sh*t. So, you want to quit. Good. Be gone. No one cares. At least now I can log on and do something other than dyna and VW. You guys should be excited for some change. If not, accept the fact and just spare my eyes the agony of logging on to ffxiah and seeing this thread constantly on the front page full of posts that no one gives a rat's a$$ about.

-Too many f*cks have been given.

Truer words have never been spoken as eloquently.
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By Siren.Mosin 2013-05-01 15:05:08
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Carbuncle.Shokox said: »
Ramuh.Darkjoker said: »
I'm tired of reading about everyone's butthurt. The new endgame is coming and you guys need to get a grip. The expansion hasn't even been out two months and you think this is the end of life as we know it. This is the end of the beginning, sure. But the content that will be released from here on out will be something major. R/E/M will get the overhaul...chill dafaq out. Now you have something to do besides afk in PJ and spend 2 hours (almost 10% of your entire day) in dynamis. I'm sure once you get the new weapons and then even more powerful weapons get released you'll be back to QQing your arses off, once again. Live with it. FFXI has become static. No big movements and no big changes. It was time for something to shake this game from the norm it's carried for the past 11 years. When the level cap raises came out, everyone QQ'ed then. The game changed, and players adapted. The Zilart era came and went. The CoP era came and went. The ToAU era came and went, the WotG era (albeit, not much of it was any good) came and went. The Abyssea era is over, and now is the time for the Adoulin era. Learn to live with it. Plenty of QQ's were spilled along the way but b*tching ain't gonna do sh*t. So, you want to quit. Good. Be gone. No one cares. At least now I can log on and do something other than dyna and VW. You guys should be excited for some change. If not, accept the fact and just spare my eyes the agony of logging on to ffxiah and seeing this thread constantly on the front page full of posts that no one gives a rat's a$$ about. -Too many f*cks have been given.
Truer words have never been spoken as eloquently.

please tell me you're not serious.

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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-05-01 15:05:20
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I disagree. It's full of stupid.
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By Ragnarok.Alahra 2013-05-01 15:05:28
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Ramuh.Darkjoker said: »
I'm tired of reading about everyone's butthurt. The new endgame is coming and you guys need to get a grip. The expansion hasn't even been out two months and you think this is the end of life as we know it. This is the end of the beginning, sure. But the content that will be released from here on out will be something major. R/E/M will get the overhaul...chill dafaq out. Now you have something to do besides afk in PJ and spend 2 hours (almost 10% of your entire day) in dynamis. I'm sure once you get the new weapons and then even more powerful weapons get released you'll be back to QQing your arses off, once again. Live with it. FFXI has become static. No big movements and no big changes. It was time for something to shake this game from the norm it's carried for the past 11 years. When the level cap raises came out, everyone QQ'ed then. The game changed, and players adapted. The Zilart era came and went. The CoP era came and went. The ToAU era came and went, the WotG era (albeit, not much of it was any good) came and went. The Abyssea era is over, and now is the time for the Adoulin era. Learn to live with it. Plenty of QQ's were spilled along the way but b*tching ain't gonna do sh*t. So, you want to quit. Good. Be gone. No one cares. At least now I can log on and do something other than dyna and VW. You guys should be excited for some change. If not, accept the fact and just spare my eyes the agony of logging on to ffxiah and seeing this thread constantly on the front page full of posts that no one gives a rat's a$$ about.

-Too many f*cks have been given.

I think there's more actual rage in this post about all the supposed rage than there is in this entire thread.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-05-01 15:06:26
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Ramuh.Darkjoker said: »
I'm tired of reading about everyone's butthurt. The new endgame is coming and you guys need to get a grip. The expansion hasn't even been out two months and you think this is the end of life as we know it. 1. This is the end of the beginning, sure. But the content that will be released from here on out will be something major. 2. R/E/M will get the overhaul...chill dafaq out. Now you have something to do besides afk in PJ and spend 2 hours (almost 10% of your entire day) in dynamis. I'm sure once you get the new weapons and then even more powerful weapons get released you'll be back to QQing your arses off, once again. Live with it. 3. FFXI has become static. 4. No big movements and no big changes. It was time for something to shake this game from the norm it's carried for the past 11 years. When the level cap raises came out, everyone QQ'ed then. The game changed, and players adapted. The Zilart era came and went. The CoP era came and went. The ToAU era came and went, the WotG era (albeit, not much of it was any good) came and went. The Abyssea era is over, and now is the time for the Adoulin era. Learn to live with it. Plenty of QQ's were spilled along the way but b*tching ain't gonna do sh*t. So, you want to quit. Good. Be gone. No one cares. At least now I can log on and do something other than dyna and VW. You guys should be excited for some change. If not, accept the fact and just spare my eyes the agony of logging on to ffxiah and seeing this thread constantly on the front page full of posts that no one gives a rat's a$$ about.

-Too many f*cks have been given.

1. You might have that backwards
2. IF they have the manpower, nothing has been confirmed nor considered yet
3. I think you mean 'stagnant'.
4. I'd say these new weapons are a big movement...just about...twice the speed limit.

I got tired after #4.
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By Otomis 2013-05-01 15:07:08
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Asura.Ina said: »
Ramuh.Darkjoker said: »
I'm tired of reading about everyone's butthurt.
So don't read it?

Do you even play the game? I mean seriously, someone who post on forums about content updates under a character not updated for 47 months, and 7 total post counts.
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2013-05-01 15:07:08
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they're just party poopers and they don't enjoy our amazing totally not-stale barance jokes
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2013-05-01 15:08:01
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Caitsith.Mahayaya said: »

Then you've got the hardcore players who maximize their awesomeness every step of the way and have been there for the longest time. These people will likely grudgingly get the best weapons again, griping all the way. But SE is banking on the fact that these hardcore players have invested so much time already that they're not just going to simply up and leave the game. Also, this group of players is a minority when it comes to this game, so losing a few isn't going to be a huge deal to them.

So while it may suck for the people who have spent the most time on the game, I think it was a great business decision.


Lol do you honestly think players with R/E/M or half way done one are the "minority", and returning player coming back for SoA but no R/E/M are the "Majority"? Get real.

No, they pleased the minority/less involved players that could easily leave again due to lack of attachment, while pissing off dedicated player that contribute much more. They also cut off 1 major FFXI selling point, that made the game epic, and created topics in conversations in social network.

From now on I have no idea what would FFXI's main selling point be. Legendary weapon used to be an epic existence, looks bad ***, has unique WS attached to it, has aftermath no other weapon has. If someone finished a legendary weapon, news spread out, indirectly made the community closer.

Now this feature is gone if the concept of R/E/M is gone. And that just made the game less exciting.

Very bad business decision making, no doubt. Also I don't believe dedicated player would stay forever no matter how SE slapping their face.
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By Asura.Ina 2013-05-01 15:10:00
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Ragnarok.Alahra said: »
I think there's more actual rage in this post about all the supposed rage than there is in this entire thread.
Yeah people are much calmer then they are getting credit for. Sure there is a lot of criticism but criticism =/= rage.

Otomis said: »
Asura.Ina said: »
Ramuh.Darkjoker said: »
I'm tired of reading about everyone's butthurt.
So don't read it?

Do you even play the game? I mean seriously, someone who post on forums about content updates under a character not updated for 47 months, and 7 total post counts.
Not even sure what you are getting.
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By Enuyasha 2013-05-01 15:11:04
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Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Caitsith.Mahayaya said: »

Then you've got the hardcore players who maximize their awesomeness every step of the way and have been there for the longest time. These people will likely grudgingly get the best weapons again, griping all the way. But SE is banking on the fact that these hardcore players have invested so much time already that they're not just going to simply up and leave the game. Also, this group of players is a minority when it comes to this game, so losing a few isn't going to be a huge deal to them.

So while it may suck for the people who have spent the most time on the game, I think it was a great business decision.


Lol do you honestly think players with R/E/M or half way done one are the "minority", and returning player coming back for SoA but no R/E/M are the "Majority"? Get real.

No, they pleased the minority/less involved players that could easily leave again due to lack of attachment, while pissing off dedicated player that contribute much more. They also cut off 1 major FFXI selling point, that made the game epic, and created topics in conversations in social network.

From now on I have no idea what would FFXI's main selling point be. Legendary weapon used to be an epic existence, looks bad ***, has unique WS attached to it, has aftermath no other weapon has. If someone finished a legendary weapon, news spread out, indirectly made the community closer.

Now this feature is gone if the concept of R/E/M is gone. And that just made the game less exciting.

Very bad business decision making, no doubt. Also I don't believe dedicated player would stay forever no matter how SE slapping their face.
Im staying, but i realize this is a game,and therefore only got slightly nauseated when someone told me this news. Im glad im working on Aegis/OChain instead of all the [highly bandwagon] DD weapons.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2013-05-01 15:11:53
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Ramuh.Darkjoker said: »
I'm tired of reading about everyone's butthurt. The new endgame is coming and you guys need to get a grip. The expansion hasn't even been out two months and you think this is the end of life as we know it. This is the end of the beginning, sure. But the content that will be released from here on out will be something major. R/E/M will get the overhaul...chill dafaq out. Now you have something to do besides afk in PJ and spend 2 hours (almost 10% of your entire day) in dynamis. I'm sure once you get the new weapons and then even more powerful weapons get released you'll be back to QQing your arses off, once again. Live with it. FFXI has become static. No big movements and no big changes. It was time for something to shake this game from the norm it's carried for the past 11 years. When the level cap raises came out, everyone QQ'ed then. The game changed, and players adapted. The Zilart era came and went. The CoP era came and went. The ToAU era came and went, the WotG era (albeit, not much of it was any good) came and went. The Abyssea era is over, and now is the time for the Adoulin era. Learn to live with it. Plenty of QQ's were spilled along the way but b*tching ain't gonna do sh*t. So, you want to quit. Good. Be gone. No one cares. At least now I can log on and do something other than dyna and VW. You guys should be excited for some change. If not, accept the fact and just spare my eyes the agony of logging on to ffxiah and seeing this thread constantly on the front page full of posts that no one gives a rat's a$$ about.

-Too many f*cks have been given.

That's quite a lot of words. It's a good thing you could type it out, so you didn't have to learn to breathe through your nose.

If all RME players "just quit bro becuz no won curr" there wouldn't be much of a playerbase left. SE takes anymore of a financial hit and the company goes under. (borderline bankruptcy / firing CEO / cutting dev team budgets already etc). As much as you think you're being edgy right now, a vast majority of the playerbase is upset by this. Listen to upset RME players = upset a the 2% of the playerbase who is new and thinks "MMO + casual = smart". Listen to you = giant profit margin loss and potential (albeit im reaching a bit) collapse of company.
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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2013-05-01 15:14:07
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I believe FFXI has left it's version of "The Attitude Era".
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By Ragnarok.Presidentobama 2013-05-01 15:14:59
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If SE does this, Ochain and aegis shields should look like a maple shield or buckler shield. So they can look plain jane. Just as all ah weapons will look using the rem ws's.
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By Otomis 2013-05-01 15:15:01
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Asura.Ina said: »
Ragnarok.Alahra said: »
I think there's more actual rage in this post about all the supposed rage than there is in this entire thread.
Yeah people are much calmer then they are getting credit for. Sure there is a lot of criticism but criticism =/= rage.

Otomis said: »
Asura.Ina said: »
Ramuh.Darkjoker said: »
I'm tired of reading about everyone's butthurt.
So don't read it?

Do you even play the game? I mean seriously, someone who post on forums about content updates under a character not updated for 47 months, and 7 total post counts.
Not even sure what you are getting.

Sorry Ina I was trying to quote your mini quote of Ramuh.Darkjoker, so it was directed that way.
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By Enuyasha 2013-05-01 15:15:32
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Rag is stillgood for WAR...til they realized its not on any of the new GS' and update that. Or until they realize on monday how *** that idea was and just give R/E/M 300 more damage,Aftermath procs on WS' and the individual WS once you get it to 99.
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2013-05-01 15:15:47
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Ramuh.Darkjoker said: »
The game changed, and players adapted. The Zilart era came and went. The CoP era came and went. The ToAU era came and went, the WotG era (albeit, not much of it was any good) came and went. The Abyssea era is over, and now is the time for the Adoulin era.

Nope, game changed and player base got smaller :) Game is a product, if you don't like it, you don't pay for it. Every change some players leave because aspect they enjoy no longer exist, those who adapt stayed, but player base got smaller, until one day sever shut down and no FFXI for everyone :)

Except this change is done in a worse way than the past, and done in a worse execution. I imagine more players would leave compare with the past.
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By Bahamut.Caelestis 2013-05-01 15:15:56
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@Darkjoker - You are a f'ing idiot...every person that quits/unsubbs/etc from FFXI b/c of the last update is one tiny step closer this game is to ultimately dying (albeit, a lot of ppl have been saying that for a while now and the game has keep going) but this is the kind of update that could be the straw that broke the camels back for some. You really think this game is going to exist if it has 75% of the playerbase it had a few days, or 50%? or 25%? (you get the point)

You asked "who cares"...you know who? SE, b/c they are here to cater to us, not the other way around, b/c correct me if im wrong, we are the ones paying to play their game.
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2013-05-01 15:17:33
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I'm sure they'll still have more than enough players to keep the game going even if they go through with this, the question is why would you drop a huge chunk of your subscribers over something that nobody asked for
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