Matsui: "Don't Throw Away Your R/M/E Weapons Yet"

They could probably get a lot more done if they didn't spend so much time having to backtrack over their stupid decisions.

If they went ahead with this, I'd guess WoE versions would just be the ws, RME's would have some sort of stat boost/aftermath as well. I'd probably just do a bunch of WoE weapons in this case, as said above Ukko's with a 260D great axe is awesome, lol.

I'd be down for that. Namas arrow on the new bow would be pretty amazing. They do, however, need to seriously introduce a better gun, or coronach is absolutely useless (unless you could somehow use it on COR after unlocking it). I'm really wondering whether they inputted the incorrect damage values because the gun is so far behind the new bows that it's not even funny.

Everyone with r/e/m is just gonna be a gimp until they are updated. Live with it.
I haven't done much of the new content, but if they're making weapons with such high damage, I'd imagine it's because the content being released is that much harder. Why not make the content easier instead of inflating damage to the extreme? Idk. I'd imagine SE has something up their sleeve. I can understand the anger because I've made four relics and rather not be shafted, but they said they're working on it.

I WILL be cutting off my subscription if this is all my 99 Annihilator is gonna be good for.

Sup, Broseph, I think you missed the part where they said they might update them if they could get the manpower to do so, and also the part where relic WSs could be unlocked in the near future, doing away with relics and undermining the work put into them. Because, let's face it, if you're a DRK and you aren't spamming Scourge, you should quit and get a job flipping burgers and do meth in your free time.

It works for some REMs but not others. In the case of NIN, Kikoku isn't worth it for Blade: Metsu--you use Blade: Shun with it. Blade: Hi isn't our best weaponskill outside of Abyssea, either, with Shun outperforming it on most stuff, as well. Personally, putting the weaponskills on other weapons doesn't really do a lot for me because those were the only two REMs I ever planned to have.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/33112-Level-99-Relic-Mythic-Empyrean-and-WoE-Weapons

official translation s up

It's a piss-poor idea IMO. 250m WS that might be weaker than a merit WS? Upgrade the Legendaries, and upgrade the WSs.

It might seem shallow, but to me losing the unique model of the special weapon is one of the things that would sadden me the most.

I really hope that plan gets scrapped.

My only real concern. If they want so badly to put an end to legendary weapons, so be it, but put Ryunohige's model on something good :(

All of my [+], here. Whatever issues it might have as a weapon, I love my Excalibur model, and giving it up just seems wrong.

/could probably do without the creepy-face-shield though

We are planning to unlock the special weapon skills that are granted from RMEC weapons when you have upgraded them to their level 99 form (this includes non-afterglow weapons, and shield/instruments will not be included in this). However, we plan on adding some conditions that fall in line with the jobs that can equip the respective RMEC weapons.


that could indicate he plans to add the seven non relic jobs onto a weapon skill.

While I'd like to keep the look of my Almace/Ukon, it really wouldn't bother me being able to use the ws's on any weapon. Just so long as SE brings the aftermath over for RME 99 owners in some fashion, maybe after using Catastrophe DRK gains the Haste AM nativly? I dunno.

WoE 99's would just be the ws's. No idea how to make it worthwhile for Mythic onwers though.

If people with RMEH (coin? they're "Hobo" weapons) weren't pissed before...

I posted this on alla, but hell why not here too:

Being able to keep Ukko's Fury does make me feel a bit better, but that's the only one I'd be able to hold onto without starting and/or 99-ing a whole new weapon.

Still, why should I, a mere WoE weapon holder get to keep Ukko's whereas someone with a 90 Ukon has to either make a Shamash as well or get 1500 plates and riftthingies. I don't wanna shoot myself in the foot here, but still... it seems odd.

Congrats on Scourge, Rune Fencer!

No it doesn't. It indicates that jobs unable to equip the relic would not have access to the WS.

No, it means whateevr new 700 base damage scythe out there can use Cata.

This is a horrible idea.

they should let Empy 90 to "keep" their WS... but I dont mind doing WoE and get 99 to get the WS... not that they are hard or expensive to make

I wouldn't put that much faith in the credibility of a post that he subsequently went "oh right" for when someone pointed out how it doesn't apply in half the cases he stated (Mythics/Coins).

It's not shallow. I'm wasn't hoping to build both 99 Relic and Empyrean just for the WS. They look cool, they're status items, and they working toward the actual *items* is a big part of why I want to play this game. Considering the WS are often second to Blade: Shun for NIN, I'd just have several million gil inventory minus items except when I was in Abyssea.

Since SE only pays attention to Japanese players I'm writing a big post in japanese. But where do I post it? I've been playing this game since day 1 but I've never been active in ffxiah or pol's forums.

This update to me was the end, I'm still in shock and I can't get over it. Yes I'm butthurt because I'm gimp now. But I'm also angry at SE. I have always struggled in this game, getting things on my own and my best accomplishment was a 90 Ukko and it seems it's worth nothing now (Had a relic almost done but... meh). So ok, let's forget about the REMs for now. There will be NO balance for a big while. As long as 1 person has a 200+dmg weapon it will have a great advantage doing anything over tons of players.

The new Delve NMs are hard. So if the new weapons were meant for casual players how is a Perle/Aurore/Teal alliance going to kill those beasts? I don't get it.

Also, all these years including the Salvage Incident. SE has been bitching and overprotecting balance, with this last update they completely turned everything over. I don't care if new people are in charge, that is no excuse.

Screw REMs, the time people has spent in this game is more valuable and I don't see that being appreciated.

Aftermath will probably be attached to WSs natively instead of weapons where possible.

This past patch, I'm pretty ambivalent about just because I'm waiting to see the direction they take it. However, this proposition of completely trashing Relics/Empyreans/Mythics in favor of a WS, ala WSNMs/Mythic WS unlocks, I'm totally against. I might actually log in to the OF to say as much.

Time will tell....

KOTR for blu!!! Cactalism for SCH, or perhaps the relic club ws, like we have on the abby club.

Maybe it's just me, but giving any kind of credit to WoE weapons seems stupid.

Nothing like finishing a Koga to find out the next day that it's a piece of ***. Now I have to do all this new content for weapons that I can't even accept. All I'll be thinking about is when will they be fixing R/M/E and how?

*** HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE idea.

Im apalled as to how stupid that idea is. Like Michigan citizen stupid.