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Matsui: "Don't throw away your R/M/E weapons yet"
By Blazed1979 2013-05-01 09:54:12
What really is infuriating is that these new OP weapons have terrible models.
screenies please. If I can't taunt the newbs getting these weapons with my once awesome 99 R/E/Ms then at they very least I want to call them ugly!
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2013-05-01 09:59:18
Quote: where the hell have I gone... nvm, just Increase the bloody base dmg on 99 R/E/Ms ffs!
That's probably what they'll end up doing because that's the laziest thing they can do. I remember when they were throwing around ideas to make 1H ratio different and they decided to just raise it to be the same as 2H ratio.
By Blazed1979 2013-05-01 10:04:15
Leviathan.Kincard said: »Quote: where the hell have I gone... nvm, just Increase the bloody base dmg on 99 R/E/Ms ffs!
That's probably what they'll end up doing because that's the laziest thing they can do. I remember when they were throwing around ideas to make 1H ratio different and they decided to just raise it to be the same as 2H ratio.
I think Matsui wants us all to read between the lines. Didn't he right out say 'I don't have enough manpower for this sh!t y'all!'
He is blaming management, more or less. I know that's what I tell my CEO when a partner complains.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2013-05-01 10:05:34
Leviathan.Kincard said: »Quote: where the hell have I gone... nvm, just Increase the bloody base dmg on 99 R/E/Ms ffs!
That's probably what they'll end up doing because that's the laziest thing they can do. I remember when they were throwing around ideas to make 1H ratio different and they decided to just raise it to be the same as 2H ratio.
TBH, I'm not REALLY worried about them fixing it. There was only minor retard QQ over empy ws being overpowered and they adjusted it. The uproar (more justifiably) over this is such that I'm sure they'll "fix" it.
It's more that 1) how long will it take, 2) what other content is it going to supercede, 3) how "well" will it be done
by 3) I mean the +damage to relic ws across the board was nice, but I still don't see anyone using metsu and it just cemented cata as a nice ws. I see this being another half assed across the board etc.
By Quiznor 2013-05-01 10:14:17
Leviathan.Kincard said: »Quote: where the hell have I gone... nvm, just Increase the bloody base dmg on 99 R/E/Ms ffs!
That's probably what they'll end up doing because that's the laziest thing they can do. I remember when they were throwing around ideas to make 1H ratio different and they decided to just raise it to be the same as 2H ratio.
TBH, I'm not REALLY worried about them fixing it. There was only minor retard QQ over empy ws being overpowered and they adjusted it. The uproar (more justifiably) over this is such that I'm sure they'll "fix" it.
It's more that 1) how long will it take, 2) what other content is it going to supercede, 3) how "well" will it be done
by 3) I mean the +damage to relic ws across the board was nice, but I still don't see anyone using metsu and it just cemented cata as a nice ws. I see this being another half assed across the board etc.
*increases the DMG by 1 and increases the delay by 100 on all of ash's R/E's*
Fixed,SE style
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By Ragnarok.Alahra 2013-05-01 10:22:55
Leviathan.Kincard said: »Quote: where the hell have I gone... nvm, just Increase the bloody base dmg on 99 R/E/Ms ffs!
That's probably what they'll end up doing because that's the laziest thing they can do. I remember when they were throwing around ideas to make 1H ratio different and they decided to just raise it to be the same as 2H ratio.
TBH, I'm not REALLY worried about them fixing it. There was only minor retard QQ over empy ws being overpowered and they adjusted it. The uproar (more justifiably) over this is such that I'm sure they'll "fix" it.
It's more that 1) how long will it take, 2) what other content is it going to supercede, 3) how "well" will it be done
by 3) I mean the +damage to relic ws across the board was nice, but I still don't see anyone using metsu and it just cemented cata as a nice ws. I see this being another half assed across the board etc.
Oh, I see people using Metsu. It hurts me. But I see it. I want to beat them to death and steal their Kikoku whenever it happens.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-01 10:27:01
On the other hand - if they allowed you to unlock Aftermath and WSDMG+% on any weapon (along with the WS where applicable) - they would essentially have fixed PUP
Stringing Pummel DMG+30% with OA2-3 on 146 DMG H2H!
Still - they had to know this was what was going to happen - or they're stupid
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-05-01 10:30:58
Still - they had to know this was what was going to happen - or they're stupid I have the impression they're treating the RME issue as a minor thing to fix later, when there's time. Not understanding that the playerbase instead consider it a top priority.
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By Ragnarok.Alahra 2013-05-01 10:32:26
On the other hand - if they allowed you to unlock Aftermath and WSDMG+% on any weapon (along with the WS where applicable) - they would essentially have fixed PUP
Stringing Pummel DMG+30% with OA2-3 on 146 DMG H2H!
Still - they had to know this was what was going to happen - or they're stupid
I always wonder when some change causes community uproar. To be honest, I think there are a lot of times where the developers (whatever game it is) don't know. They should have known better, though, if Abyssea caused a similar uproar in the past (I wasn't around for the launch of that though, so I don't know firsthand).
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-01 10:34:38
Anyway - remember when I said the original JP developer interview that pissed off JPs enough in the first place didn't sound particularly auspicious?
Now you know what I'm talking about!
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By Bismarck.Kelhor 2013-05-01 10:34:41
I have the impression they're treating the RME issue as a minor thing to fix later, when there's time. Not understanding that the playerbase instead consider it a top priority.
This is the part that confuses me. The players most up in arms about it all are the ones who have been their most loyal customers. Why would you prioritize Random Dude who was deactivated for two years (and now needs a good weapon, guys!) over the players who've stuck it out in the interim? Do they just think those players aren't going anywhere, so it doesn't matter what they do?
That has to be it, right? Nothing else makes even a lick of sense.
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By Shiva.Paulu 2013-05-01 10:36:03
FF XIV must be almost ready to launch. They're giving us 200DMG onion weapons to make us quit and switch over. This is my current theory.
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By Cerberus.Stereo 2013-05-01 10:36:22
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By Bismarck.Kelhor 2013-05-01 10:37:20
FF XIV must be almost ready to launch. They're giving us 200DMG onion weapons to make us quit and switch over. This is my current theory.
XI remains their greatest (and maybe only!) cash cow. Doing anything to deliberately kill it is essentially sabotaging the company.
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By Ragnarok.Alahra 2013-05-01 10:38:40
I have the impression they're treating the RME issue as a minor thing to fix later, when there's time. Not understanding that the playerbase instead consider it a top priority.
This is the part that confuses me. The players most up in arms about it all are the ones who have been their most loyal customers. Why would you prioritize Random Dude who was deactivated for two years (and now needs a good weapon, guys!) over the players who've stuck it out in the interim? Do they just think those players aren't going anywhere, so it doesn't matter what they do?
That has to be it, right? Nothing else makes even a lick of sense.
That's probably part of it, yes. Companies sometimes assume they have a certain loyal base that won't leave, without understanding *why* they don't leave. Then, they mess with the very things that keep those customers loyal in search of a broader customer base, and shoot themselves in the foot.
If they're smart, they'll get an upgrade going soon. They don't even need to do anything more than raise the base damage, when it comes down to it, and it doesn't even need to be as high as those new weapons either. Several Skirmish weapons had higher base damage than REM and still didn't necessarily outperform them.
Given that they need "manpower," I have to assume their proposed idea is much more complicated than that, though. -.-
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By Shiva.Ariaum 2013-05-01 10:38:59
At this point I'd just like to see a actual response from SE on it. If they plan to basically double (or triple in some cases) the dmg on 99 R/E/M though some means to stop the proliferation of 85 and 90 emps and 95 relics to actually make them rare again I guess thats fine.
If they really thought roflstomping 10 years in a weekend of farming is a good idea then they really have less of a clue than I thought.
At this point there really is only 2 answers raise R/E/M to the level of these weapons or ninja nerf the crap out of them back to a realistic level.
By Blazed1979 2013-05-01 10:40:04
FF XIV must be almost ready to launch. They're giving us 200DMG onion weapons to make us quit and switch over. This is my current theory.
XI remains their greatest (and maybe only!) cash cow. Doing anything to deliberately kill it is essentially sabotaging the company.
Its like trashing your KIA today, because you have hopes of earning enough to buy a Porsche in a year. Never mind how you're gonna get to work or drop the kids off at school, PORSCHE IN A YEAR YAH!
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By Shiva.Paulu 2013-05-01 10:40:08
FF XIV must be almost ready to launch. They're giving us 200DMG onion weapons to make us quit and switch over. This is my current theory.
XI remains their greatest (and maybe only!) cash cow. Doing anything to deliberately kill it is essentially sabotaging the company.
Agreed. I more or less just wanted to say onion weapons were the ultimate!
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2013-05-01 10:40:15
FF XIV must be almost ready to launch. They're giving us 200DMG onion weapons to make us quit and switch over. This is my current theory.
I've never understood that logic behind some of the people that play this game.
"You guys screwed this product up so hard, I'll teach you by buying your newest, shiniest product."
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By Ragnarok.Ninurta 2013-05-01 10:40:15
FF XIV must be almost ready to launch. They're giving us 200DMG onion weapons to make us quit and switch over. This is my current theory.
A lot of that theorizing going on in the Japanese forums; the consensus seems to be they're pushing people towards XIV or they're trying to 'reset' the game to attract more people to reactivate/jump in with the new expansion.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-01 10:42:52
They want people to do Adoulin content so the obvious solution is to make 99 RME upgradeable through Adoulin content
If they're going to shoot weapons from LV75 to LV99 (proportionally) every update though there's really nothing sustainable they can do anyway so we might as well sit back and watch the unsubscribe fireworks
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By Ragnarok.Alahra 2013-05-01 10:43:48
FF XIV must be almost ready to launch. They're giving us 200DMG onion weapons to make us quit and switch over. This is my current theory.
A lot of that theorizing going on in the Japanese forums; the consensus seems to be they're pushing people towards XIV or they're trying to 'reset' the game to attract more people to reactivate/jump in with the new expansion.
It's an attempt at a reset, I'd bet. In a game that has its legacy as one of its greatest draws, I don't know why they thought that'd go over well, though.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2013-05-01 10:43:51
At this point I'd just like to see a actual response from SE on it. If they plan to basically double (or triple in some cases) the dmg on 99 R/E/M though some means to stop the proliferation of 85 and 90 emps and 95 relics to actually make them rare again I guess thats fine.
If they really thought roflstomping 10 years in a weekend of farming is a good idea then they really have less of a clue than I thought.
At this point there really is only 2 answers raise R/E/M to the level of these weapons or ninja nerf the crap out of them back to a realistic level.
I wouldn't expect much of an answer til Monday (unless they're bringing laptops on holiday).
I'm kind of sad even if they do raise RME to those weapon tiers. Pulse weapons/new meeble weapons (for the 3 people who got tenkomaru)/etc. ALL that new ***is irrelevant now unless theyre going to balance the whole *** weapon base.
HURR DURR WE TOO BUSY AND TOO RITTLE MANPOWER TO GET ANYTHING DONE!!! Then why did you decide to use that manpower to make your last 4 months of attempts at "new content" irrelevant?
Why the *** would I spam your shitty *** meebles for a XYZ when you just ***all over it? Use your heads.....
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2013-05-01 10:44:14
why are there still no Matsui meme images
where are our photoshop masters
Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »It's not that hard to understand.
maybe you can explain to me why the solution for getting pissed at the decisions they make with one product is to give them more money for another product
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By Shiva.Paulu 2013-05-01 10:44:49
so we might as well sit back and watch Yep, it's a fun wave of q.q to ride. I'm sure it'll all pan out ok.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-05-01 10:45:07
I wouldn't expect much of an answer til Monday Matsui made two posts and they were terrible.
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By Bismarck.Kelhor 2013-05-01 10:45:50
I wouldn't expect much of an answer til Monday Matsui made two posts and they were terrible.
Yeah, honestly, if he'd said nothing it would have been better for all involved.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-01 10:46:28
I wouldn't expect much of an answer til Monday Matsui made two posts and they were terrible.
Yeah, honestly, if he'd said nothing it would have been better for all involved.
Yes - it would have kept the NA who hadn't read the JP developer interview satiated with false hope!
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By Blazed1979 2013-05-01 10:46:35
FF XIV must be almost ready to launch. They're giving us 200DMG onion weapons to make us quit and switch over. This is my current theory.
A lot of that theorizing going on in the Japanese forums; the consensus seems to be they're pushing people towards XIV or they're trying to 'reset' the game to attract more people to reactivate/jump in with the new expansion.
They should have announced XI-2 and promised XI players they would get something special in XI-2. Then anything crazy they do in current XI would at least be received by a player base aware of radical incoming changes, paving the way for XI-2.
But that would require 2 essential things they don't have - Manpower and Money.
| 04-26-2013 12:52 PM | | Akihiko Matsui | | Dev Team |  |
| | I'd like to deeply apologize for mentioning "Don’t throw away your relic, mythic, and empyrean weapons" during an interview. Relic, mythic, and empyrean (below R/M/E weapons) take a great deal of time and difficulty to obtain, and this expression was extremely lacking in consideration for all of the players who tried so hard to complete them.
What I wished to convey was that we will be implementing a system to build on R/M/E weapons, so please have them in your possession, and there was no other meaning intended.
In regards to this system, the outline has been finished; however, we have yet to test if what we have planned can be realized and if we can secure the proper amount of manpower to continue it. We are at a point in time right now where it's difficult to explain the details, so please allow us to discuss this another day.
For the Adoulin end-game content aimed at the top players, where they can obtain high level equipment as well, we will gradually make adjustments to difficulty so that once new end-game content is released you'll be able to obtain these items if you put in a bit of effort.
Also, we will similarly be adjusting content in existing areas, though it may take some time and be a limited time event. | |
| 05-09-2013 10:15 AM | | Slycer | | BG Translator |  |
| | Matsui: Follow up on Level 99 Relic, Mythic, Empyrean, and Coin Weapons
Hello, it's Matsui. Thank you for all of your opinions about Relic, Mythic, Empyrean, and Coin weapons (hereafter, RMEC). They were very helpful.
After reading all of the varied opinions, we have decided that rather than unlocking the weapon skills specific to each weapon, a reworking of RME weapons would be more effective (for coin weapons, more information will be provided later, but we plan to allow these to unlock the dedicated weapon skills).
I have written and reorganized this in various ways and it has become quite lengthy with examples. After you have gotten a chance to look over it, please let us know if you have any further opinions.
Content Level
We received many questions about the parameters of Adoulin equipment. Because this is an important part in order to be able to understand the reworking of RME so you can provide your opinion, please allow me to repeat the explanation for content level and growth in Seekers of Adoulin.
In Adoulin, the basic design is a repeated play cycle where players become stronger and stronger as they align themselves with equipment obtained from challenging content which, in turn, allows them to take on even more challenging content.
By aligning themselves with this equipment, players will continue to grow even without leveling up.
The content level of Adoulin content is set as follows:
[[Info below is much better formatted in a table on the original post.]]
20: Delve (Boss Monsters) (Current)
17: Wildskeeper Reive (New Additions) (Next Version Update)
14: Delve NMs (Tier 2) (Current)
13: Skirmish (New Additions) (Next Version Update)
11: Delve NMs (Tier 1) (Current)
6-9: Colonization / Lair Reives (New Additions) (Next Version Update)
7: Wildskeeper Reive (Current)
6: Skirmish (Current)
1-5: Colonization/Lair Reives (Current)
The strength of the equipment that can be obtained, rather than the level of the equipment, will be dependent on the content level. The equipment to be added later in Adoulin will of course be equippable at level 99, but the level of the equipment parameters would be even higher to match the content level (for example, similar to what level 110 or 120 equipment might look like).
While the strength of the monsters which appear is determined to match the content level, in order to fill out the hierarchy between content to some extent, we have designed monsters of variable strength. The parameters of the equipment that can be obtained in Adoulin is set by determining the parameters that would be necessary to compete with those monsters.
The level of current and planned content is set to minimize the gaps between content level, but we may also insert additional intermediate content if the jump between levels remains too high.
In some cases, content variations will cause content to cover multiple levels. We also plan to enhance the amount of content available horizontally at individual levels, rather than just vertically over the content level range.
The content in the next version update will be added with this in mind.
Referencing the "next version update" items above, it will be possible to add new colonization and lair reive equipment purchasable for Bayld in the level 6~9 range (which currently includes Skirmish and Wildskeeper Reives). In addition, we will be inserting new content at levels 13 and 17.
Also, one part of smoothing out the content level will be adjusted in a maintenance to be carried out of the end of this week: we will be adding a fixed probability to obtain the items needed to enter Skirmishes (Simulacrum Segments) from Lair and Colonization Reives. (This adjustment is unrelated to the current rules associated with coalition assignments, gathering, and Soul Pyres.)
By making this adjustment, the assumed progression will be:
1. First, take on lair and colonization reives.
2. As a result of those battles, obtain Simulacrum Segments.
3. Combine the segments in order to enter Skirmishes.
Reworking RMEC
Please excuse my lengthy explanation above. I'll now return to the topic at hand.
First off, since it is necessary for the development staff to further consider the implementation, we cannot guarantee the timeframe as far as whether it will be included in the next version update.
Regarding the types of parameters that would be reworked, special abilities such as Aftermath and Afterglow will remain, while parameters such as the DMG rating, attack, and accuracy will be set to match the content level post-rework.
Since the parameters will be reworked to become aligned with high content difficulty, we do not intend to rework it in small intervals such as with the previous method of Trial of the Magians.
Prior to now, RME were considered the strongest weapons, so I think there will need to be some change to this viewpoint. For those who have RME, you may not require the other weapons, but there now be a choice among other comparable weapons.
If you are worried about how these weapons will be able to be used, for example, against Delve boss monsters, here are some parameters which we are looking at for the reworking. This is just for RME one-handed swords as an example:
Excalibur
DMG:73 Delay:233 Attack+40
"Knights of Round"
Additional effect: Damage varies with HP
to
DMG:121 Delay:233 Attack+60 Accuracy+20
"Knights of Round"
Additional effect: Damage varies with HP
Burtgang
DMG:73 Delay:264 Enmity+18
Physical damage taken-18% Reduces Enmity decrease when taking damage
"Atonement"
Aftermath: Increases Acc./Atk./Occ. attacks twice or thrice
to
DMG:131 Delay:264 Attack+20 Accuracy+20 Enmity+18
Physical damage taken-18% Reduces Enmity decrease when taking damage
"Atonement"
Aftermath: Increases Acc./Atk./Occ. attacks twice or thrice
Almace
DMG:70 Delay:224 DEX+20
"Chant du Cygne"
Aftermath: Occ. deals double damage
to
DMG:114 Delay:224 Attack+20 Accuracy+20 DEX+20
"Chant du Cygne"
Aftermath: Occ. deals double damage
Since coin weapons were originally just intended to be used for Empyrean weapon skills, based on the concept, I believe that instead of reworking them, they can be used to open the dedicated weapon skills (with certain level and job restrictions). We are currently considering the adjustment procedures necessary for this..
In conclusion
I've gone on for a while, so considering the reworking for level 99 Relic, Mythic, and Empyrean weapons as well as the unlocking of dedicated weapon skills via Coin weapons, please let us know your opinions. We will read through your thoughts one by one to make sure we understand your point of view.
Note that this is a large departure from the original plan. Considering the feasibility of scheduling this change, the development may take some time.
I apologize for keeping you waiting on my response.
Thanks in advance!
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| 05-09-2013 2:19 PM | | Akihiko Matsui | | Dev Team | |
| | Follow-up: Level 99 Relic, Mythic, Empyrean, and Walk of Echoes Weapons
Matsui here.
Thank you all so much for the feedback on relic, mythic, empyrean, and Walk of Echoes weapons. It has helped out tremendously.
After reading over all of your feedback, instead of continuing the growth of these weapons by unlocking the weapon skills that are tied to each of the weapons, I feel it would be better to perform a revamp on RME weapons. (Regarding Walk of Echoes weapons, I will talk about this below, but they will be involved with unlocking the specialized weapon skills.)
I've been reworking a lot, and writing it all up, but it seems the post turned out rather lengthy, so once you have been able to read through it all and digest it we'd love to hear your feedback.
Content Level
We've received a lot of questions about the stats on Adoulin equipment, and I'd like to once again explain about growth and content levels in Seekers of Adoulin as this is a critical aspect in order to receive feedback on the revamps for RME weapons.
The content in Adoulin has been designed with a repeating play-cycle where you challenge content that you are able to at that moment in time, gather equipment, become stronger, and then take on higher tier content which will allow you to gather even stronger equipment.
It's through the procurement of equipment that will allow players to grow and level up.
We've established content levels for Adoulin content as a means to objectively display difficulty benchmarks. The below is a concrete illustration of these content levels.
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Equipment strength is dependent on the level of the content you need to challenge in order to obtain the equipment, not the level in which it can be equipped. With the gear that is released in Adoulin from here on out, they can be equipped at level 99; however, instead of considering these to be level 99 pieces of equipment, it would be better for you to think of their level in terms of the content level (for example, level 110 or level 120).
The strength of the monsters that will be introduced are matched to that of the content level, but since there is somewhat of a solidified hierarchy between content, it's been setup so that the strength can be felt with even one level difference in content level. Oppositely, the parameters on Adoulin equipment have been calculated and set in order to deal with these monsters.
Fundamentally we will be making it so that the content level for content to come in the future continues to become higher, but there may be cases where we fill in areas where there is a large jump in content level as needed.
Also, in order to make it so there are various types of content sprawled across a single content level, we are supplementing it with content variations. We've also designed plans to enable resting periods where we will expand laterally instead of vertically, because players may get burnt out going full steam ahead.
In the next version update we will be adding content focusing on filling in the gaps as well as supplementing with content variation.
In the above chart, please look at the “Next version update (currently adjusting)” column. For content levels 6-9 (Skirmish/Wildskeeper Reives), we will be adding equipment appropriate for these content levels that can be exchanged for Bayld along with new Colonization and Lair Reives. Additionally, we will be filling in content for levels 13 and 17.
For those players who are already able to take on Skirmish, Wildskeeper Reives, and Delve at this point in time, it will not be absolutely necessary to challenge this content, but we will be making the above adjustments in case you want to increase your success rate, or are feeling that the current situation is still a bit tough.
Also, as a plan to resolve the issue where Skirmish is not really connecting the content as was planned, we will be undergoing maintenance at the end of this week and making it so statue segments can be obtained from Colonization and Lair Reives at a set rate. (These adjustments are separate from the rules associated with obtaining these items via Coalition Assignments, HELM, and Soul Pyres.)
By performing these adjustments we envision the below flow:
Challenge Colonization and Lair Reives
Obtain statue segments by participating in these reives
Challenge Skirmish with the parts you have obtained
Weapon Revamps
Sorry, I got off track for a bit, but now I'd like to return to the topic at hand.
To start off, I still need to discuss the implementation period with the rest of the development team, so it will be a bit difficult to address this immediately in the next version update, and we cannot make any promises as to when this will take place.
In regards to the kind of stats that will be added when we revamp these weapons, fundamentally the afterglow and aftermath effects as well as the other special stats will carry over and we'll be setting damage values, attack, and accuracy stats to coincide with the content level.
While the stats will be quite strong, we do not plan on making it possible to continuously enhance them in short intervals like the original method of enhancing via Trial of the Magians.
However, RME weapons have been considered the ultimate weapons up until this point in time, but I feel that this needs to change a bit.
I would like to make a shift so that instead of having it so that other weapons aren't necessary if you have RME weapons, you have a choice. If you are happy with RME, then you can use RME, and for those who want other weapons you can use other weapons.
With that said, there may be players who are worried if these weapons will eventually become unusable, but to give an example we had the lead make some calculations for the stats needed to combat the Delve boss monsters, and the below is what the RME swords would look like:
Excalibur
DMG: 73 Delay: 233 Attack+40 "Knights of Round" Additional effect: Damage varies with HP |
DMG: 121 Delay: 233 Attack+60 Accuracy+20 "Knights of Round" Additional effect: Damage varies with HP |
Burtgang
DMG: 73 Delay: 264 Enmity+18 Physical damage taken -18% Reduces Enmity decrease when taking damage. "Atonement" Aftermath: Increases Acc./Atk./Occ. Attacks twice or thrice |
DMG: 131 Delay: 264 Attack+20 Accuracy+20 Enmity+18 Physical damage taken -18% Reduces Enmity decrease when taking damage. "Atonement" Aftermath: Increases Acc./Atk./Occ. Attacks twice or thrice |
Almace
DMG: 70 Delay: 224 DEX+20 "Chant du Cygne" Aftermath: Occ. deals double damage |
DMG: 114 Delay: 224 Attack+20 Accuracy+20 DEX+20 "Chant du Cygne" Aftermath: Occ. deals double damage |
In regards to Walk of Echoes weapons, these were implemented with the concept of allowing players to use the specialized empyrean weapon skills, so instead of revamping them we felt it more appropriate to have them serve to unlock the weapons skills (planning to have restrictions based on jobs and level). Also, we are looking into adjustments for the method to create Walk of Echoes weapons.
In conclusion…
Apologies that this post is so long, but based on all of the above we would love to hear your feedback on the revamps to level 99 RME weapons and unlocking weapon skills with Walk of Echoes weapons.
I will be sure to read over each and every comment you all post.
My thoughts and ideas have completely turned around the plans that were originally drawn up, and I had to sit and really discuss the idea with the rest of the development team, including the possibilities of making this happen.
I apologize that this response was late and that I made you all wait.
Thank you all very much. | |
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