Matsui: "Don't Throw Away Your R/M/E Weapons Yet"

Yes yes we know the Japanese people are better than us. I only hear about how wonderful they are and how horrible we are every single day.

The only thing JP typically do better is shut up and get content done while NA *** *** *** and lag waaaay behind.

They have equally as many shitty players as NA but at the least their cultural collectiveness is beneficial.

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Riiight...

I'm far less concerned about the "R/M/E apocalypse" (which I'm sure will be addressed soon anyway) than I am about the implications these new weapons will have on, well, the rest of the entire game. Everyone and their grandmother may as well be able to one shot anything that was ever relevant up until today, effectively taking all the fun out of playing. Seems to me that people should be a hell of a lot more bothered about this. Supposing they do put your R/M/E on somewhat equal footing with the Delve weapons, do you really even still care to play a game where everything there is to do is so boring and trivial?

I can't wait to lowman Legion.

I keep seing a lot of posts about how "all" old gear is now pointless to obtain. Can anyone show me a -damage taken head to wear on SAM that beats Ogiers? Or Laeradr for its respective jobs? How about -pdt on ogiers legs and phorcys feet? These are just a couple peices that are off the top of my head. I'm sure if you look harder there are still other viable peices from many of the older contents that will still remain in your gear sets. Once again situational peices are still situational. Who'd have thunk it.

I don't even know where to start. You realize that the complete loss of cultural identity in Japan is a national concern, right? Like... I quit.

You have described the core of what most people have a problem with, R/E/M being so weak in comparison strips most of the purpose from their related content. For now at least this minimized the point in doing it along with making it very easy and boring.

R/E/M is so central to the discussion because this is a thread about R/E/M not the update in general.

I surely don't hate them. In fact I have a lot of respect for certain aspects of their culture. I'm just not big on putting anyone or any group on a pedestal. They're human.


Well yeah. The game is kind of designed around that. It's only natural that they'd be at an advantage over us rugged individualists.

I'm not sure where this came from, I was more just pointing out that the JP mods seem to be a lot more anal than the EN mods for their forums. If anything that would be a negative thing.

was not very hard to do anything but mul with 8-10 2 months ago, even easier after defense adjustment nerfed the *** out of the mobs, this wasnt necessary

thats cause se didnt givw them a quest for it yet

I'm going to guess most of the people that post here don't even have a clue what's going on in their own country, let alone around the world.

Thief's Knife will forever be useful. :c

Meant literally 4-men, and was a joke. Something that is often missed it seems.

our japanese peers IRL are hikikomori and the entire country is in freefall

You really expect us to read all 90 pages of that link? <_<

yeah i edited it for a tldr :)

sociology

not even once

Sorry for long post in advance:

What is happening now with weapons is no different than when emps 1st where revealed, new weapons that did higher WS dmg than R/M. Making no one use relics anymore (besides Harp/Aegis/Apoc) untill the merrit WS came into play, then R/M came back to take the lead using the merrit WS!

With merrit WS they seem to be focusing on those more than anything else atm. Why? Idk. I see alot of pist off people though. I myself am not pist, only confused on where SE is taking this game with these quantum leaps into gear/weapon upgrades that have blow away everything to ever exsist.
So why not set your weapon aside and try a new one just like everyone did when emps came out? Most are using Merrit WS anyway so whats the difference? Relics are now made for Merrit WS (besides tools like harp, Apoc, & Aegis) Mythics are a trophy peace and form or accomplishment that many dont do & Emps are just easly made toys.
Either way creating new weapons for everyone was probably easyer and more fair than altering current REM and leaving anyone left out of new content who doesnt own one.

They release all this for a reason correct? To make us ready for the next step wich one would assume to be a greater challenge than what we have seen allready, as we havnt seen a real challenge since PW was 1st fought. Everything has been zerg and now zerg is in the past, its back to real skill and endurance of everyone in the team for survival. So what is next? Maybe these weapons/gear are needed for the players who dont have REM so they can acualy hit these NMs and not be completly usless.

Complain about new dmg on weapons all you want but fact of the matter is 99 REM doesnt cut it out there, you will miss 80% of the time even in the best gear 100+ Acc and 99 weapon. With that said, if a 99 REM is wiffing this much then what would people who dont have REM do w/o these new options? People need to stop looking at new weapons to be used in old content for eye candy parse numbers. Start looking at them in a way of a tool that is needed to acualy land a swing on these new NMs and ready our selves for what is next cuz it seems they are preparing us for somthing greater than what we experiance now!

My apologies then. I'm just used to the aforementioned pedestal placing.

It would be nice to know how the folks over there REALLY feel about all this. Sylow and others caught glimpses before the mods swarmed in, but I'd love the full picture of the Japanese player response.

It's not really that different than the EN response honestly. Most of the time the JP and EN playerbases have very similar responses, down to complaining about how SE never listens but they'll always listen to EN/JPs instead (as appropriate).

They also have the same sort of "I hope that REM I worked on so hard doesn't get outdated" attitude, and they have people that don't care, and they have people that go "grr i quit nao".

i know dogg i am just trying to help people feel better about living in a culture that encourages them to strive towards individual greatness :) :) :)

Off-topic but for your information empyrean aftermath does NOT apply to weaponskills.

It's gonna be only for sam!

I wish, lol.

I read the forums and JP are just as butthurt, only they say it in a different way, not biching as much with vulgar language as they are raised with a different kind of respect in life. But they are feeling the same as everyone here, filled with aggervation and at a loss for words.

it is pointless in the sense that if you have a 261 DMG great axe i wonder how much it matters what else you're wearing

also kind of funny that you are all HEY LOOK AT ALL THIS OTHER GEAR THAT'S STILL USEFUL and then are forced to confine all examples to -DT sets, which as we all know have always been incredibly haphazard in the introduction of new pieces, even for FFXI