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By macsdf1 2013-05-15 14:36:17
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Uguisumaru
DMG:192 Delay:420 STR+17 Accuracy+27 Attack +15

Avail now to all sams, for the low price of around 40m, less if you farm.
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By macsdf1 2013-05-15 14:37:56
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IXJesterheadXI said: »
And maybe when I get the delve sword I can trade it in for a map of Delkfutt's Tower since they are the same model. Why wouldn't we make the best sword look the same as a lvl 22 item instead of something unique.

PS2 limitations

But seriously I point out obvious upgrades that are easier and cheaper to get, and you complain that the graphic sucks on it. Function over fashion my friend. But maybe you're a girl or something, if so I'm sorry.

Frankly right now, I wouldn't want to be trying to show off a masa in town, cause that bandwaggon has passed and gone. Ugi is the new cool.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-05-15 14:40:42
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best sword looks pretty unique to me
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-05-15 14:40:43
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Wow. That just happened.

ITT: If you're a girl, I'm sorry. Also, you're vain.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-05-15 14:42:46
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take your feminist nonsense elsewhere we're talking about pixel swords here

its already been established macsdf1 is only here to tell us how much better than all of us he is
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-05-15 14:43:51
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I like naakual weapons, I enjoy the idea of stuff themed after the megabosses.
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2013-05-15 14:48:19
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i mean *** rmes they have unique grafix i dont like that sissy ***who wants suspension of disbelief anyway i like playing final fantasy spreadsheets why try to wield swords that look cool in a fantasy game when i can use a rusty *** and do over 9000 damage man i am totally adventurin man games 4ever <3
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By SamuraiCloud27 2013-05-15 14:49:22
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No they're not buffing the 85 version

You shouldn't think of Delve gear as LV99 gear - it's more like what LV110 and LV120 gear would look like

They are buffing LV99 RME to the LV110-120 state - why would they bump an 85 weapon to have higher performance than the LV99 state

Not arguing here but just wanted to say what I said in a post before (even though it's clearly not happening), if they were to buff pre-99 R/E/M it would only be the same difference in DMG & stats as it was before, not sure why people are saying why would they do that.

Example:
Masamune 95: Dmg 123, Str 17.
Masamune 99: Dmg 132, Str 20.

Buffed example (picked 70%):
Masamune 95: Dmg 209, Str 17 Accuracy 17 Attack 17
Masamune 99: Dmg 219, Str 20 Accuracy 20 Attack 20
Aftermaths
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By macsdf1 2013-05-15 14:49:49
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
take your feminist nonsense elsewhere we're talking about pixel swords here

its already been established macsdf1 is only here to tell us how much better than all of us he is

Wut? When have I done that? All I've done is offer suggestions to help you. Disaggreeing with casual players doesn't make one elitist. Not all hardcore players like me are elitist shrug.

I don't see why you think I'm being elitist. I'm a friendly guy!

Was a joke anyways, how girls care about looks, fashion over function. Why else wear chain mail bikinis into battle. Why so serious;;

Besides you're prob a taru, can't see your armor or weapons anyways, unless it's a shiny new helmet or body peice.
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By macsdf1 2013-05-15 14:53:01
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SamuraiCloud27 said: »
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
No they're not buffing the 85 version

You shouldn't think of Delve gear as LV99 gear - it's more like what LV110 and LV120 gear would look like

They are buffing LV99 RME to the LV110-120 state - why would they bump an 85 weapon to have higher performance than the LV99 state

Not arguing here but just wanted to say what I said in a post before (even though it's clearly not happening), if they were to buff pre-99 R/E/M it would only be the same difference in DMG & stats as it was before, not sure why people are saying why would they do that.

Example:
Masamune 95: Dmg 123, Str 17.
Masamune 99: Dmg 132, Str 20.

Buffed example (picked 70%):
Masamune 95: Dmg 209, Str 17 Accuracy 17 Attack 17
Masamune 99: Dmg 219, Str 20 Accuracy 20 Attack 20
Aftermaths

Cause you're skipping trials. Think of Masamune 99 as masamune 99 +1
There already is a masamune 95+1, it's called a masamune 99.
You can't get a masamune 99 +1 without first having a masamune 99!
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-05-15 14:53:36
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If you honestly don't realize what you're doing, you should take a minute and look back at your posts. Over 80% are solely attempt to condescend, very few have offered useful info and those that have were posted after the info is out there. You don't care to help people, you just think you're making yourself look like a pro.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-05-15 14:54:06
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I just noticed now, what does it even mean "if you're a girl I'm sorry"?
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By SamuraiCloud27 2013-05-15 14:56:04
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macsdf1 said: »
SamuraiCloud27 said: »
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
No they're not buffing the 85 version

You shouldn't think of Delve gear as LV99 gear - it's more like what LV110 and LV120 gear would look like

They are buffing LV99 RME to the LV110-120 state - why would they bump an 85 weapon to have higher performance than the LV99 state

Not arguing here but just wanted to say what I said in a post before (even though it's clearly not happening), if they were to buff pre-99 R/E/M it would only be the same difference in DMG & stats as it was before, not sure why people are saying why would they do that.

Example:
Masamune 95: Dmg 123, Str 17.
Masamune 99: Dmg 132, Str 20.

Buffed example (picked 70%):
Masamune 95: Dmg 209, Str 17 Accuracy 17 Attack 17
Masamune 99: Dmg 219, Str 20 Accuracy 20 Attack 20
Aftermaths

Cause you're skipping trials. Think of Masamune 99 as masamune 99 +1
There already is a masamune 95+1, it's called a masamune 99.
You can't get a masamune 99 +1 without first having a masamune 99!

That really doesn't make any sense lol Who's skipping trials?
Pre buff 95-99, 60 cinders
After buff 95-99, 60 cinders
I don't follow...
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By macsdf1 2013-05-15 14:56:33
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I just noticed now, what does it even mean "if you're a girl I'm sorry"?

It was a badly formed sentance hehe

I meant "Well unless you are a girl, then maybe you do you care about how you look. I'm sorry I mentioned it".
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-05-15 14:57:44
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Sorry man but weapons below 99 shouldn't have stats touched.

Although I firmly believe a lv 90 empy should give the ws as much as a stupid woe.
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By IXJesterheadXI 2013-05-15 14:58:30
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macsdf1 said: »
SamuraiCloud27 said: »
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
No they're not buffing the 85 version

You shouldn't think of Delve gear as LV99 gear - it's more like what LV110 and LV120 gear would look like

They are buffing LV99 RME to the LV110-120 state - why would they bump an 85 weapon to have higher performance than the LV99 state

Not arguing here but just wanted to say what I said in a post before (even though it's clearly not happening), if they were to buff pre-99 R/E/M it would only be the same difference in DMG & stats as it was before, not sure why people are saying why would they do that.

Example:
Masamune 95: Dmg 123, Str 17.
Masamune 99: Dmg 132, Str 20.

Buffed example (picked 70%):
Masamune 95: Dmg 209, Str 17 Accuracy 17 Attack 17
Masamune 99: Dmg 219, Str 20 Accuracy 20 Attack 20
Aftermaths

Cause you're skipping trials. Think of Masamune 99 as masamune 99 +1
There already is a masamune 95+1, it's called a masamune 99.
You can't get a masamune 99 +1 without first having a masamune 99!

With that logic only people with afterglow should be buffed, seems only fair right.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-05-15 14:59:54
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Although I firmly believe a lv 85+ empy should give the ws as much as a stupid woe.
this, seeing as woe costs nothing past the nm trials and they basically just told all the scrubs who can't 99 their weapons that they won't be useful

no reason people should have to recamp the trash nms just to do an easier path

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With that logic only people with afterglow should be buffed, seems only fair right.
afterglow is disproportionately harder than 99, would need census data to be accurate but i'd wager 30-40% of relics are 99 vs <.1% afterglow
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-15 14:59:59
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IXJesterheadXI said: »
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With that logic only people with afterglow should be buffed, seems only fair right.


Except for the fact that Afterglow and non-Afterglow have been stated from inception that they were intended to be identical except for the Afterglow and the visual effect

Unlike LV95 and 99 versions
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By SamuraiCloud27 2013-05-15 15:02:23
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Sorry man but weapons below 99 shouldn't have stats touched.

Although I firmly believe a lv 90 empy should give the ws as much as a stupid woe.

I'm so confused lol Why should they not be touched? There was the same difference between 95-99 before as they might have done with the buffed ones :s

Before, there was a 10 dmg and 3 STR difference between the 95-99 version, I'm sorry if it seems like I'm arguing, just trying to make my point clear.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-05-15 15:03:44
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Because a lv 95 weapon would have stats not appropriate to level 95. Same for the levels below.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-15 15:04:17
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Sorry man but weapons below 99 shouldn't have stats touched.

Although I firmly believe a lv 90 empy should give the ws as much as a stupid woe.

I'm so confused lol Why should they not be touched? There was the same difference between 95-99 before as they might have done with the buffed ones :s

Before, there was a 10 dmg and 3 STR difference between the 95-99 version, I'm sorry if it seems like I'm arguing, just trying to make my point clear.

Because now the LV99 version won't be a 99 version it will be a 110-120 version

I've already stated this
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-05-15 15:05:54
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Most FFXI players don't understand the concept of iLvl I've found :(
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By SamuraiCloud27 2013-05-15 15:06:27
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Because a lv 95 weapon would have stats not appropriate to level 95. Same for the levels below.

So pre-delve if you had a 90 weapon you would be too powerful for lv 90?
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By Siren.Mosin 2013-05-15 15:06:59
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Fenrir.Sylow said: »
SamuraiCloud27 said: »
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Sorry man but weapons below 99 shouldn't have stats touched. Although I firmly believe a lv 90 empy should give the ws as much as a stupid woe.
I'm so confused lol Why should they not be touched? There was the same difference between 95-99 before as they might have done with the buffed ones :s Before, there was a 10 dmg and 3 STR difference between the 95-99 version, I'm sorry if it seems like I'm arguing, just trying to make my point clear.
Because now the LV99 version won't be a 99 version it will be a 110-120 version I've already stated this

you really are fighting the good fight sylow, stay strong man.
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By mcdonalds87 2013-05-15 15:07:27
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I can understand why some are wanting the 85/90/95 emphys upgraded, but it takes 0gil to get to those. (Minus the 95 of course). Everyone stopped at 85 and 90 because it was "good enough" and those people rather just use up hundreds of hours of other peoples time to get those and then not invest any of their own gil into making it 99. So there is really nothing to complain about. Don't want your time and everyone else's time to not be in vain? Just invest and get it to 99.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-05-15 15:07:33
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I'd post a facepalm gif, but I can't even be bothered to search one for you.
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By macsdf1 2013-05-15 15:08:09
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SamuraiCloud27 said: »
macsdf1 said: »
SamuraiCloud27 said: »
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
No they're not buffing the 85 version

You shouldn't think of Delve gear as LV99 gear - it's more like what LV110 and LV120 gear would look like

They are buffing LV99 RME to the LV110-120 state - why would they bump an 85 weapon to have higher performance than the LV99 state

Not arguing here but just wanted to say what I said in a post before (even though it's clearly not happening), if they were to buff pre-99 R/E/M it would only be the same difference in DMG & stats as it was before, not sure why people are saying why would they do that.

Example:
Masamune 95: Dmg 123, Str 17.
Masamune 99: Dmg 132, Str 20.

Buffed example (picked 70%):
Masamune 95: Dmg 209, Str 17 Accuracy 17 Attack 17
Masamune 99: Dmg 219, Str 20 Accuracy 20 Attack 20
Aftermaths

Cause you're skipping trials. Think of Masamune 99 as masamune 99 +1
There already is a masamune 95+1, it's called a masamune 99.
You can't get a masamune 99 +1 without first having a masamune 99!

That really doesn't make any sense lol Who's skipping trials?
Pre buff 95-99, 60 cinders
After buff 95-99, 60 cinders
I don't follow...

Because that's not how upgrading works...
Should they just upgrade every single weapon in the game too, by boosting the dmg on them?

Wouldn't it be great if they increased the dmg on all the trial weapons starting from the first one you get from the chest???

Hey why not make stage 1-4 relic weapons get high dmg and stats too!

a 95 weapon isn't complete. It has an upgrade. Like I said, that upgrade is to 99.
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By macsdf1 2013-05-15 15:11:01
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Sorry man but weapons below 99 shouldn't have stats touched.

Although I firmly believe a lv 90 empy should give the ws as much as a stupid woe.


At this point we don't even know if a 99 empy will get the ws unlocked. For all we know everyone has to 99 a coin to get the ws.
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By SamuraiCloud27 2013-05-15 15:11:29
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I'm sorry but this is pretty confusing for me, do you not see my example pre-buff and after-buff? Before Delve Ive had my masamune thinking it was good but obviously can be better but now that e have these delve weapons my 90 suddenly goes from competitive to nothing but a WS? I'm not complaining about it not being buffed at all I'm just trying to show you why it would have been acceptable if they did get buffed.
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By mcdonalds87 2013-05-15 15:14:17
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macsdf1 said: »
SamuraiCloud27 said: »
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
No they're not buffing the 85 version

You shouldn't think of Delve gear as LV99 gear - it's more like what LV110 and LV120 gear would look like

They are buffing LV99 RME to the LV110-120 state - why would they bump an 85 weapon to have higher performance than the LV99 state

Not arguing here but just wanted to say what I said in a post before (even though it's clearly not happening), if they were to buff pre-99 R/E/M it would only be the same difference in DMG & stats as it was before, not sure why people are saying why would they do that.

Example:
Masamune 95: Dmg 123, Str 17.
Masamune 99: Dmg 132, Str 20.

Buffed example (picked 70%):
Masamune 95: Dmg 209, Str 17 Accuracy 17 Attack 17
Masamune 99: Dmg 219, Str 20 Accuracy 20 Attack 20
Aftermaths

Cause you're skipping trials. Think of Masamune 99 as masamune 99 +1
There already is a masamune 95+1, it's called a masamune 99.
You can't get a masamune 99 +1 without first having a masamune
macsdf1 said: »
SamuraiCloud27 said: »
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
No they're not buffing the 85 version

You shouldn't think of Delve gear as LV99 gear - it's more like what LV110 and LV120 gear would look like

They are buffing LV99 RME to the LV110-120 state - why would they bump an 85 weapon to have higher performance than the LV99 state

Not arguing here but just wanted to say what I said in a post before (even though it's clearly not happening), if they were to buff pre-99 R/E/M it would only be the same difference in DMG & stats as it was before, not sure why people are saying why would they do that.

Example:
Masamune 95: Dmg 123, Str 17.
Masamune 99: Dmg 132, Str 20.

Buffed example (picked 70%):
Masamune 95: Dmg 209, Str 17 Accuracy 17 Attack 17
Masamune 99: Dmg 219, Str 20 Accuracy 20 Attack 20
Aftermaths

Cause you're skipping trials. Think of Masamune 99 as masamune 99 +1
There already is a masamune 95+1, it's called a masamune 99.
You can't get a masamune 99 +1 without first having a masamune 99!

This was not easy to follow. There were a thousand better ways to have worded this. It does sound like a mild case of down syndrome/ foreigner tried to explain this.
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