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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-05-15 13:39:40
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-15 13:43:51
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[Update Details]
The following issues have been addressed.

- Players that were disconnected from the game while in the Cirdas Caverns [S] area were occasionally unable to leave the area upon logging back in.

- The NPC "Mosusu" in the Port Windurst area did not display properly.

Keep on Matamataing!
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-05-15 13:44:49
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Carbuncle.Ceruleanknight said: »
macsdf1 said: »
You have no right complain if you only play a few hours a week, and you can't get the ultimate weapons. The new expansion should be a godsend for casuals like you who play for fun a few hours a week. Freaking easy to get delve weapons, and nice bayld gear and delve armor, that you can farm on your own at your own pace.


You see, another problem of this game is that alot of ppl are like you "You shouldn't complain if you only play a few hours a week" I mean what the hell is this stupid mentality? what next? "You cannot play at all cause you will only play a few hours a week." ?

You know casual ppl rarely get invited to anything because most of the time its "R/E/M/D Weapon DD only" in the shouts.

I am not complaining myself, I found my way to progress throu the game while I can avoid the elitist scrubs, I also just don't give a flying *** about one having a better armor then I do lol.

But seriously, would everyone have a relic today if Dynamis was the same as before? take that into consideration its all down to you farming your currency for 3-4 months, does it make you better then anyone to have a relic now? nope.

Somes ppl have better priorities now, life priorities.
If you don't have time to spam 40 Qilins a day, make a fully upgraded Delve weapon by doing fracture runs whenever you have a block of time to play. Not everything in the game is supposed to be immediately accessible to everyone.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-15 13:47:06
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But I want things now and don't want to have to work for them!
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-05-15 13:50:43
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That's what Mog Bonanza is for!
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By macsdf1 2013-05-15 13:51:44
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Carbuncle.Ceruleanknight said: »
macsdf1 said: »
You have no right complain if you only play a few hours a week, and you can't get the ultimate weapons. The new expansion should be a godsend for casuals like you who play for fun a few hours a week. Freaking easy to get delve weapons, and nice bayld gear and delve armor, that you can farm on your own at your own pace.


You see, another problem of this game is that alot of ppl are like you "You shouldn't complain if you only play a few hours a week" I mean what the hell is this stupid mentality? what next? "You cannot play at all cause you will only play a few hours a week." ?

You know casual ppl rarely get invited to anything because most of the time its "R/E/M/D Weapon DD only" in the shouts.

I am not complaining myself, I found my way to progress throu the game while I can avoid the elitist scrubs, I also just don't give a flying *** about one having a better armor then I do lol.

But seriously, would everyone have a relic today if Dynamis was the same as before? take that into consideration its all down to you farming your currency for 3-4 months, does it make you better then anyone to have a relic now? nope.

Somes ppl have better priorities now, life priorities.

That mentality is how the world works, it is how life works. I didn't invent it, it is just human nature.

I'm not elitist. I'm just to the point, and speak my mind. All my REM are 99, but I honestly didn't give a flying *** when I saw the new delve weapons. All I thought was holy ***, new shinys to get. My REMs had their purpose but time to move on. Now that people have whined, when those upgraded REM get released I'll go holy ***, time to get new shinys as well.

I could care less about your life priorities, and how you work 25 hours a day during blizzards and stuff. The fact remains is you shouldn't expect to be on equal footing nor should you be entitled to having the same rewards as someone who plays 3x as much as you do. That's just not how things work. It's not my opinion, it's just how it is.
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By Valefor.Omnys 2013-05-15 13:51:45
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Fenrir.Sylow said: »
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[Update Details]
The following issues have been addressed.

- Players that were disconnected from the game while in the Cirdas Caverns [S] area were occasionally unable to leave the area upon logging back in.

- The NPC "Mosusu" in the Port Windurst area did not display properly.

/sigh
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-15 13:51:55
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
That's what Mog Bonanza is for!

No!
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2013-05-15 13:59:02
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I thought Bonanza was for temporary inventory -10. :<
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By Siren.Novadragon 2013-05-15 14:01:00
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Ragnarok.Raenil said: »
I thought Bonanza was for temporary inventory -10. :<

With a statue in my MH for a reward, worth it!
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By macsdf1 2013-05-15 14:03:33
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But hey guys, you got to participate and weren't excluded and you got the same rewards as someone with 99 REMS with 3x the chars you do!
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2013-05-15 14:05:51
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
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By IXJesterheadXI 2013-05-15 14:06:56
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Not trying to troll but where was it ever mentioned that your R/M/E's would have to be 99 to get this buff in the works? I know OP gives examples of 99 R/M/E's buffed but was it ever stated somewhere it will only apply to 99?
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By Ragnarok.Zohnax 2013-05-15 14:07:06
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Chyula said: »
Ill spoon fed the information to since it is so hard to that forgot thing inside the head.
Is this some expression not native to the Americas? I cannot quite understand your attempt at condescension.

At any rate, I had heard somewhere it was like 30k plasm to buy an Airlixir, so I never bothered to look it up myself. Thanks for enlightening me. x:
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By Carbuncle.Shokox 2013-05-15 14:07:40
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Fenrir.Sylow said: »
But I want things now and don't want to have to work for them!

I've been saying this for the last 50 years. Maybe I shouldn't sound as thorough and should just add more sarcasms.
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By Siren.Novadragon 2013-05-15 14:09:30
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Not trying to troll but where was it ever mentioned that your R/M/E's would have to be 99 to get this buff in the works? I know OP gives examples of 99 R/M/E's buffed but was it ever stated somewhere it will only apply to 99?

Not that I read, it should be possible for 85s and over.
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2013-05-15 14:12:59
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Carbuncle.Ceruleanknight said: »
macsdf1 said: »
You have no right complain if you only play a few hours a week, and you can't get the ultimate weapons. The new expansion should be a godsend for casuals like you who play for fun a few hours a week. Freaking easy to get delve weapons, and nice bayld gear and delve armor, that you can farm on your own at your own pace.


You see, another problem of this game is that alot of ppl are like you "You shouldn't complain if you only play a few hours a week" I mean what the hell is this stupid mentality? what next? "You cannot play at all cause you will only play a few hours a week." ?
You underlined the wrong part of his statement. He was saying the current update is beneficial to you and THAT disqualifies you from bitching.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-15 14:13:58
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IXJesterheadXI said: »
Not trying to troll but where was it ever mentioned that your R/M/E's would have to be 99 to get this buff in the works? I know OP gives examples of 99 R/M/E's buffed but was it ever stated somewhere it will only apply to 99?

Not that I read, it should be possible for 85s and over.

It will be 99 only as stated by the development team
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By Phoenix.Damnit 2013-05-15 14:14:12
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It actually did say the weapon need to be 99. But afterglow isn't going to b needed since they are looking at other means of upgrading other than trials of magian
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By Siren.Novadragon 2013-05-15 14:18:22
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Fenrir.Sylow said: »
Siren.Novadragon said: »
IXJesterheadXI said: »
Not trying to troll but where was it ever mentioned that your R/M/E's would have to be 99 to get this buff in the works? I know OP gives examples of 99 R/M/E's buffed but was it ever stated somewhere it will only apply to 99?

Not that I read, it should be possible for 85s and over.

It will be 99 only as stated by the development team

Well that sucks. Just hope they make it a little more possible for Empys. VW is pretty dead in Siren.
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By IXJesterheadXI 2013-05-15 14:19:06
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Siren.Novadragon said: »
IXJesterheadXI said: »
Not trying to troll but where was it ever mentioned that your R/M/E's would have to be 99 to get this buff in the works? I know OP gives examples of 99 R/M/E's buffed but was it ever stated somewhere it will only apply to 99?

Not that I read, it should be possible for 85s and over.

that was my understanding as well i.e.

99 Almace now is DMG: 70 Delay: 224 DEX+20 "Chant du Cygne" Aftermath: Occ. deals double damage

Buffed 99 looks like DMG: 114 Delay: 224 Attack+20 Accuracy+20 DEX+20 "Chant du Cygne" Aftermath: Occ. deals double damage

So if 85 Almace right now looks like DMG: 57 Delay: 224 DEX +10
"Chant du Cygne"
Aftermath: Occ. deals double damage

Wouldn't buffed 85 Almace look like DMG: 93 Delay: 224 Attack+20 Accuracy+20 DEX+10 "Chant du Cygne" Aftermath: Occ. deals double damage

As you can see 85 emp would come in ~10% less base dmg than delve weapon and ~10% more @99 seems fair to me if they do it like that.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-15 14:20:40
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No they're not buffing the 85 version

You shouldn't think of Delve gear as LV99 gear - it's more like what LV110 and LV120 gear would look like

They are buffing LV99 RME to the LV110-120 state - why would they bump an 85 weapon to have higher performance than the LV99 state
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By Taeketsu 2013-05-15 14:21:23
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"In conclusion…
Apologies that this post is so long, but based on all of the above we would love to hear your feedback on the revamps to level 99 RME weapons and unlocking weapon skills with Walk of Echoes weapons."
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By IXJesterheadXI 2013-05-15 14:22:39
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Fenrir.Sylow said: »
Siren.Novadragon said: »
IXJesterheadXI said: »
Not trying to troll but where was it ever mentioned that your R/M/E's would have to be 99 to get this buff in the works? I know OP gives examples of 99 R/M/E's buffed but was it ever stated somewhere it will only apply to 99?

Not that I read, it should be possible for 85s and over.

It will be 99 only as stated by the development team

I'm not doubting you was just curios where it was stated since i don't see it mentioned in the Op of this thread. can you post a link?
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By IXJesterheadXI 2013-05-15 14:23:13
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Taeketsu said: »
"In conclusion…
Apologies that this post is so long, but based on all of the above we would love to hear your feedback on the revamps to level 99 RME weapons and unlocking weapon skills with Walk of Echoes weapons."

Thank You
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-15 14:23:36
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That's in the OP by the way =X
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2013-05-15 14:25:20
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There is a way to upgrade non lvl99 empyreans/relics for people without the time or money to get 99s.
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By macsdf1 2013-05-15 14:26:07
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IXJesterheadXI said: »
Siren.Novadragon said: »
IXJesterheadXI said: »
Not trying to troll but where was it ever mentioned that your R/M/E's would have to be 99 to get this buff in the works? I know OP gives examples of 99 R/M/E's buffed but was it ever stated somewhere it will only apply to 99?

Not that I read, it should be possible for 85s and over.

that was my understanding as well i.e.

99 Almace now is DMG: 70 Delay: 224 DEX+20 "Chant du Cygne" Aftermath: Occ. deals double damage

Buffed 99 looks like DMG: 114 Delay: 224 Attack+20 Accuracy+20 DEX+20 "Chant du Cygne" Aftermath: Occ. deals double damage

So if 85 Almace right now looks like DMG: 57 Delay: 224 DEX +10
"Chant du Cygne"
Aftermath: Occ. deals double damage

Wouldn't buffed 85 Almace look like DMG: 93 Delay: 224 Attack+20 Accuracy+20 DEX+10 "Chant du Cygne" Aftermath: Occ. deals double damage

As you can see 85 emp would come in ~10% less base dmg than delve weapon and ~10% more @99 seems fair to me if they do it like that.

And a delve sword is
Halachuinic Sword Rare Ex
DMG:104 Delay:228 Accuracy+26 Attack+30 Str +10 fully upgraded.
There is your upgrade right there, go.
Don't even gotta wait for rem updates. Light years beyond your 85 almace. Alot cheaper too.
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By Siren.Novadragon 2013-05-15 14:28:44
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macsdf1 said: »
And a delve sword is
Halachuinic Sword Rare Ex
DMG:104 Delay:228 Accuracy+26 Attack+30 Str +10 fully upgraded.
There is your upgrade right there, go.
Don't even gotta wait for rem updates. Light years beyond your 85 almace. Alot cheaper too.

I found a new goal for my Masa 90.
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By IXJesterheadXI 2013-05-15 14:36:01
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macsdf1 said: »
IXJesterheadXI said: »
Siren.Novadragon said: »
IXJesterheadXI said: »
Not trying to troll but where was it ever mentioned that your R/M/E's would have to be 99 to get this buff in the works? I know OP gives examples of 99 R/M/E's buffed but was it ever stated somewhere it will only apply to 99?

Not that I read, it should be possible for 85s and over.

that was my understanding as well i.e.

99 Almace now is DMG: 70 Delay: 224 DEX+20 "Chant du Cygne" Aftermath: Occ. deals double damage

Buffed 99 looks like DMG: 114 Delay: 224 Attack+20 Accuracy+20 DEX+20 "Chant du Cygne" Aftermath: Occ. deals double damage

So if 85 Almace right now looks like DMG: 57 Delay: 224 DEX +10
"Chant du Cygne"
Aftermath: Occ. deals double damage

Wouldn't buffed 85 Almace look like DMG: 93 Delay: 224 Attack+20 Accuracy+20 DEX+10 "Chant du Cygne" Aftermath: Occ. deals double damage

As you can see 85 emp would come in ~10% less base dmg than delve weapon and ~10% more @99 seems fair to me if they do it like that.

And a delve sword is
Halachuinic Sword Rare Ex
DMG:104 Delay:228 Accuracy+26 Attack+30 Str +10 fully upgraded.
There is your upgrade right there, go.
Don't even gotta wait for rem updates. Light years beyond your 85 almace. Alot cheaper too.

And maybe when I get the delve sword I can trade it in for a map of Delkfutt's Tower since they are the same model. Why wouldn't we make the best sword look the same as a lvl 22 item instead of something unique.
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