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 Ragnarok.Zeromega
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2013-05-09 21:40:45
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if you want to nit pick there is a search function here on ffxiah that will tell how many people have 99 of every r/m/e, and thats just for the people who registered on xiah

accuracy+ go
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By Bismarck.Kelhor 2013-05-09 21:43:42
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Ragnarok.Zeromega said: »
will tell how many English speakers that are using the guildwork client have 99 of every r/m/e

As long as we're discussing accuracy...
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2013-05-09 21:44:40
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Phoenix.Radatz said: »
R/E/M will more than likely NEVER be obsolete. they will always be something worth getting. And even though i personally do not own one, Im sure that those who do will have no reason to worry about their R/E/M ever becoming just inventory-1.
You must have missed the memo where he said he changed his mind from making r/m/e expensive paperweights to fairly relevant in the near future. Emphasis on making r/m/e paperweights losing unique ws.
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By Asura.Calatilla 2013-05-09 22:04:20
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Where does 99 Caladbolg currently stand in the GS hierarchy and where would it be after this proposed change?
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-09 22:06:27
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I did some statistics on RME based on the Vanadiel census a while back


Although that version of the chart is using the wrong rank for the jobs I guess I didn't save the fixed chart '~'
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2013-05-09 22:08:00
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in current standing caladbolg is way behind unless you can cover the acc, otherwise its right up there with rag and bereaver, after the update itll probably be 2nd after ragnarok for a short time (till more stuff comes out)
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By Ragnarok.Presidentobama 2013-05-09 22:13:30
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Wont apoc become king of scythes if they unlock quintis. Same for rag if it unlocks empy great sword weapon skill.
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2013-05-09 22:15:31
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Ragnarok.Presidentobama said: »
Wont apoc become king of scythes if they unlock quintis. Same for rag if it unlocks empy great sword weapon skill.
even before this update apoc was king of scythes, torcleaver wont do ***for rag
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By Ragnarok.Presidentobama 2013-05-09 22:17:42
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Ragnarok.Zeromega said: »
Ragnarok.Presidentobama said: »
Wont apoc become king of scythes if they unlock quintis. Same for rag if it unlocks empy great sword weapon skill.
even before this update apoc was king of scythes, torcleaver wont do ***for rag

I thought liberater was the ki g. But glad to here it. My apoc is ready.
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By Ragnarok.Eriina 2013-05-09 22:18:14
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Ragnarok.Presidentobama said: »
Wont liberator become king of scythes if they unlock catastrophe?

Ftfy*

(*if you like utility, as many apoc owners seem to)
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2013-05-09 22:20:25
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Ragnarok.Eriina said: »
Ragnarok.Presidentobama said: »
Wont liberator become king of scythes if they unlock catastrophe?

Ftfy*

(*if you like utility, as many apoc owners seem to)
theyre not talking about unlocking relic ws anymore~

otherwise i may be chasing liberator myself
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By Ragnarok.Eriina 2013-05-09 22:25:19
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Ragnarok.Zeromega said: »
theyre not talking about unlocking relic ws anymore~

otherwise i may be chasing liberator myself



I guess drg can forget about OA2-3 shock spikes then...
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2013-05-09 22:28:50
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Ragnarok.Eriina said: »
Ragnarok.Zeromega said: »
theyre not talking about unlocking relic ws anymore~

otherwise i may be chasing liberator myself



I guess drg can forget about OA2-3 shock spikes then...
http://nooooooooooooooo.com
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By Lakshmi.Feint 2013-05-09 22:42:21
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What about brack Mage!!!!!!
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By Carbuncle.Hackett 2013-05-09 23:16:29
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What if SE let you trade in your LV99 rme for a buster sword usable by all jobs?
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By Bismarck.Kelhor 2013-05-09 23:20:52
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Carbuncle.Hackett said: »
What if SE let you trade in your LV99 rme for a buster sword usable by all jobs?

Don't do it. Climhazzard has terrible mods.
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By Losie 2013-05-09 23:42:11
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Hate on me if you want, but all the whimpering to keep RMEs relevant is a bit silly. It's an MMO, stuff gets outdated. You didn't do the trials to have the best weapon forever, you did 'em to have what you have, that's it. People pretend like just because they dumped a month or five into an item that they deserve to be indefinitely tops - again, welcome to MMOs. FFXI has been stagnant long enough that I can understand the turmoil, and furthermore, SE made the problem worse by continuing them in the first place, and even adding the whole RME deal to begin with.

Not to mention the problem of continuing them further - is a new player going to want to, much less be ABLE to, build RMEs as SoA progresses? Who's going to go back and do that old content with them, especially as time consuming as some of it can be? The RMEs ultimately were neat items that became design/itemization nightmares, and SE is now paying the price. People are conditioned to keep their fancy weapons indefinitely relevant, and especially with game-changers like Ochain/Aegis and such, they really backed themselves into a corner with poor design forethought.

Anyways, I personally like RME stuff just for the class-specific work-your-***-off-for-something-cool aspect, but.. People definitely need to keep in mind that games grow, and that means whatever amazing item you worked so hard for will look like trash sooner or later.. and the more SE is forced to string those items along further, the more it'll keep their itemization janked.
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By Alerith 2013-05-09 23:50:40
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You must be new to the concept that FFXI has survived to this day by not being like every other MMO out there.

R/M/E were, by design, ultimate endgame weapons. They were meant to be the final solution to your weapon slot, at least on a very small handful of jobs. Many of these were built, despite their daunting conditions, by players who believed this; that their work towards an ultimate weapon would pay off in the long run of...well...being an ultimate weapon.
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By Bahamut.Kiralai 2013-05-10 03:45:35
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Alerith said: »
You must be new to the concept that FFXI has survived to this day by not being like every other MMO out there.

R/M/E were, by design, ultimate endgame weapons. They were meant to be the final solution to your weapon slot, at least on a very small handful of jobs. Many of these were built, despite their daunting conditions, by players who believed this; that their work towards an ultimate weapon would pay off in the long run of...well...being an ultimate weapon.

That, and the Final Fantasy franchise has a reasonably strong history of annoying-to-obtain ultimate weapons. I always viewed it as another way SE tried to make us feel like we were actually playing a Final Fantasy game and not just another MMO.
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2013-05-10 06:12:14
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Losie said: »
Hate on me if you want, but all the whimpering to keep RMEs relevant is a bit silly. It's an MMO, stuff gets outdated.
And they do. Almost every piece of armor and accessory have been outdated. Hell, Brutal Earring just got dethroned on 2H DDs during TP phase.

However, RME have always remained the best in slot. With some exceptions. And having them replaced by a weapon that can be bought off the AH or farmed in a few hours is both insulting and *** stupid.

If they were dethroned by an ultimate Adoulin weapon set, I doubt there'd have been too much complaining. At least, no more than there was when Mythics and Empyreans were released.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2013-05-10 06:19:18
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Drakesbane and Stringing Pummel will be the big winners here. High weapon damage favors weaponskills with high ftp even if the mods are mediocre. Modifier will be less important and ftp will be more. For instance, asuran fists with rigor baghnakhs does almost as much damage as Shijin Spiral. Same story for evisceration and exenterator. The 100% mod merit wss will be hurting with 99 rmes.
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By skyehope928 2013-05-10 07:17:49
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Obviously those who complain about rem r the ones who don't have one
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By Phoenix.Urteil 2013-05-10 07:28:40
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Burn them all to the ground.
New interesting things please.
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By Sylph.Wardeniii 2013-05-10 07:29:59
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Phoenix.Urteil said: »
Burn them all to the ground.
New interesting things please.

In soviet XI, duplus grips you.









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By Phoenix.Urteil 2013-05-10 07:52:44
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That's not enough to finish my sweater.
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2013-05-10 07:59:33
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Phoenix.Urteil said: »
That's not enough to finish my sweater.

You have no Redemption.
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By Phoenix.Urteil 2013-05-10 08:01:32
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Never needed it.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2013-05-10 08:06:24
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All the cool kids have one D:
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By Phoenix.Urteil 2013-05-10 08:07:24
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All the kids missed my memo it seems.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2013-05-10 08:18:31
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You're gonna be mad when Matsui let's us form all 5 weapons into voltron (and add a kclub to make the ultrazord)!
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