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By Bismarck.Kelhor 2013-05-09 16:32:49
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
If I could make one change to this I'd probably bump Mythic D down a smidge, they have lower base damage than relics/emps for a reason. Having access to empyrean weaponskills will bump up the standing of several mythics considerably, too. COnqueror and Tizona being the biggest ones that I can think of off the top of my head.

I'd add Glanzfaust to that.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-05-09 16:36:36
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This went exactly as I suspected, but the WoE weapon skill unlocks is actually rather nifty. Having Rudra's Storm on my Mandau seems pretty neat.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-05-09 16:40:33
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Something that I feel may go overlooked, too:

Myrkr with the 70+ MAB Skirmish staff. Finally a use for Occult Acumen
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By Bismarck.Kelhor 2013-05-09 16:41:42
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Something that I feel may go overlooked, too:

Myrkr with the 70+ MAB Skirmish staff. Finally a use for Occult Acumen

I thought Myrkr's modifier was just max MP?

You still need to spend a tremendous amount of MP to get enough TP to WS.
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By Ragnarok.Presidentobama 2013-05-09 16:42:55
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Something that I feel may go overlooked, too:

Myrkr with the 70+ MAB Skirmish staff. Finally a use for Occult Acumen


Yea but what to do with 99 Empy staff. Mog store it now that it can't unlock the weapon skill and aftermath is 100% useless.

99 empy staff is like ten days old and 100% useless. One sad galka.

All those kuku kills, sedan, azdaja, HMP's gathered and dross. ............
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By Blazed1979 2013-05-09 16:47:48
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He still doesn't fuggin get it.
I don't know why I expected any better.

This game went from grand-theft fantasy to angry birds in a hurry.

F_ck vertical play in a decade old game.

If I'm going to chase a carrot its going to be in greener pastures.
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By Ragnarok.Presidentobama 2013-05-09 16:48:14
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Bismarck.Kelhor said: »
Valefor.Prothescar said: »Something that I feel may go overlooked, too:

Myrkr with the 70+ MAB Skirmish staff. Finally a use for Occult Acumen
I thought Myrkr's modifier was just max MP?

You still need to spend a tremendous amount of MP to get enough TP to WS.


Wrong a t5 spell gives 21-25 TP depending what gear you have. And if you just have attack mob engaged with the WOTG regain earring you are getting one TP a tic anyway regardless what you do. Even now I nuke in delve non stop, No need for mp songs or sublimagation.

Also /drk works well to if nuking. You have absorb tp what is very effective if you truly need it. As well as absorb INT +20.

Mod is mx MP yes, but if you gear swap MP gear right before you do a WS you can get 400-800 MP extra just for that WS use. I could post my gear set later.

A little shabby: but here Is the set I use.

input /equip head "Savant's bonnet +2"; 60
input /equip hands "Strand gages"; 100
input /equip waist "Desert rope"; 60
input /equip back "Twilight cape"; 35
input /equip legs "Orvail pants"; 60
input /equip feet "Savant's loafers +2"; 45
input /equip neck "Dualism collar"; 45
input /equip ear1 "loquacious earring"; 35
input /equip ear2 "Graiai earring"; 45
input /equip ammo ""
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input /equip Ring1 "Bifrost ring"; 70
input /equip ring2 "Serket ring";50
input /equip body "Orvail robe"; 120


that's about 770 max mp boost to use for the weapon skill. And like drain ii it will increase your max MP for a short time.
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By Blazed1979 2013-05-09 16:59:47
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0riginally Posted by Camate
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Dear Mr. Matsui,
Thank you for sharing how you feel. It is of the utmost importance that how you feel is communicated to us. I'm glad the direction the game is taking is based on your feelings about weapons that took some of us hundreds of manpower hours to quest.

I'm glad that your feelings are what is ruining the game for many of us, and the memories we have of it. It would have been devastating to us all if you had made such decisions based on more than your feelings, like perhaps, our feelings.

But since you are the game producer, it is important that your feelings are what guide this game's progression and not the player base or customers' sentiments.

This is a solid plan for success and I can see FFXI lasting another decade and your player base growing exponentially.

Please keep up the great work. I wish I could stay to see how wonderfully you progress, but I don't feel like it.
Your feelings matter so much to us.


Keep feeling.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-05-09 17:01:46
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What I'm finding amusing is that this is a huge boon to mythics. Vajra and Tizona might have a strong point for creation now. Also, Ukko's Fury on Conqueror is silly.

Oh, and Gastraphetes with Wildfire. Lawl

Burtgang gets CDC too.
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By Leviathan.Kaparu 2013-05-09 17:04:33
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Not as silly as Ryunohige is going to be, what with it having remained superior/competitive through what we've been given in Adoulin
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By Bismarck.Kelhor 2013-05-09 17:14:02
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Leviathan.Kaparu said: »
Not as silly as Ryunohige is going to be, what with it having remained superior/competitive through what we've been given in Adoulin

And don't forget Camlann's Torment!
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By Leviathan.Kaparu 2013-05-09 17:15:46
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The world shall feel my Torment!
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2013-05-09 17:17:04
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Gastra with Wildfire isn't going to matter much, as True Flight with Damage +30% is about the same as Wildfire.

Burtgang with CDC will not really matter much, because PLD's best way to get TP is still to shield block (so what's the point of AM3?)

Ukko's will probably be better than Upheaval with Conqueror, especially when Berserk is up.

Vajra will not be much better than it was (why would it be?)

Tizona will be much better with CDC.



Again though, I'm sure any Mythic owner would caution you about the viability of maintaining AM3. It's just not that easy in most events. Plasm farming? Okay. 5-minute zerging some NM? Okay. Moving between 1 minute fights? No. Doing something like Dynamis where you have to pull for yourself? Not really worth it for 1H weapons. etc.
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By Shiva.Lethalg 2013-05-09 17:20:56
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Sooo, the multi hit weps are getting the highest base dmg?....... If this were a FFXI test, he would have just failed
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By Leviathan.Kaparu 2013-05-09 17:23:07
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
...Again though, I'm sure any Mythic owner would caution you about the viability of maintaining AM3. It's just not that easy in most events. Plasm farming? Okay. 5-minute zerging some NM? Okay. Moving between 1 minute fights? No. Doing something like Dynamis where you have to pull for yourself? Not really worth it for 1H weapons. etc.

Unless you're a DNC, DRG, or SAM! '-'

The frequency of Soul giving me 200+ TP is pretty amusing
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By Blazed1979 2013-05-09 17:24:54
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Quietus on Liberator!!

wait...

nvm
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By Quetzalcoatl.Avengers 2013-05-09 17:33:00
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well, back to building my mythic now...
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-05-09 17:34:02
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Ragnarok.Presidentobama said: »
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Something that I feel may go overlooked, too:

Myrkr with the 70+ MAB Skirmish staff. Finally a use for Occult Acumen


Yea but what to do with 99 Empy staff. Mog store it now that it can't unlock the weapon skill and aftermath is 100% useless.

99 empy staff is like ten days old and 100% useless. One sad galka.

All those kuku kills, sedan, azdaja, HMP's gathered and dross. ............



You knew what you were doing when you 99ed the staff.
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By Alerith 2013-05-09 17:35:13
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Matsui responds with RME plan...

Little snippet:

Matsui said:
Prior to now, RME were considered the strongest weapons, so I think there will need to be some change to this viewpoint. For those who have RME, you may not require the other weapons, but there now be a choice among other comparable weapons.

I'm taking this as "Sorry you built your weapon thinking it would be an ultimate weapon, but we have other plans."

If someone has a better interpretation, please let me hear it.. :(
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By Siren.Calnus 2013-05-09 17:36:09
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Blazed1979 said: »
0riginally Posted by Camate
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Dear Mr. Matsui,
Thank you for sharing how you feel. It is of the utmost importance that how you feel is communicated to us. I'm glad the direction the game is taking is based on your feelings about weapons that took some of us hundreds of manpower hours to quest.

I'm glad that your feelings are what is ruining the game for many of us, and the memories we have of it. It would have been devastating to us all if you had made such decisions based on more than your feelings, like perhaps, our feelings.

But since you are the game producer, it is important that your feelings are what guide this game's progression and not the player base or customers' sentiments.

This is a solid plan for success and I can see FFXI lasting another decade and your player base growing exponentially.

Please keep up the great work. I wish I could stay to see how wonderfully you progress, but I don't feel like it.
Your feelings matter so much to us.


Keep feeling.
I just spit the water I was drinking all over my desk. That rarely happens to me. Bravo lol.
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By Odin.Arkista 2013-05-09 17:48:03
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So all the Butt Hurt people going to finally stop crying????? Took SE long enough the let everyone know what there plans were.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-05-09 17:49:47
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Nah they're still going to cry. Not much that can be done to stop that
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By Cerberus.Cruxus 2013-05-09 17:53:26
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Fenrir.Sylow said: »
Honestly - should have considered the 99 trial before you decided to make 2 relics

Honestly I'm not upset with making the relics even if they weren't getting any upgrade @ 99. I realize that content that was released early on in such a long standing game would be outclassed, especially the moment they announced the lvl cap increase. The fact that they even made them Magian trials seems like a gift and consideration of upping the 99 versions as well, I made my first relic cause I wanted it from the time it was shown back when I first started the game and 2nd was to keep me busy in the game for S&G's.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-09 17:55:57
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Ryunohige
Terpsichore
Kenkonken
Glanzfaust
Kogarasumaru
Conqueror
Death Penalty

are all going to be really stupid after this update
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By Siren.Knivesz 2013-05-09 17:58:37
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Odin.Arkista said: »
So all the Butt Hurt people going to finally stop crying????? Took SE long enough the let everyone know what there plans were.
No, now that all my hardwork, blood, sweat and tears I spent in procuring these once mighty delve weapons have been circumvented by SE allowing these gimps with R/M/E to almost match them in dmg rating I will be unsubscribing as a form of protest to this injustice. No amount of preparation-H can even begin to soothe the amount of butthurt me and my fellow R/M/E'less comrades must now endure.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-05-09 18:09:41
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Fenrir.Sylow said: »
Ryunohige
Terpsichore
Kenkonken
Glanzfaust
Kogarasumaru
Conqueror
Death Penalty

are all going to be really stupid after this update

Tizona son
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-05-09 18:10:25
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mmmm feels good
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By Bahamut.Greyfawkz 2013-05-09 18:13:52
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Fenrir.Sylow said: »
Ryunohige
Terpsichore
Kenkonken
Glanzfaust
Kogarasumaru
Conqueror
Death Penalty

are all going to be really stupid after this update


Why will Kogara be broken?
(Just curious, not to be taken as rude lol.)
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-05-09 18:16:16
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Fudo on a Koga... ermagerd
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By Otomis 2013-05-09 18:21:44
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I have to agree with the decision to simple increase the weapon damage, Acc, and attack. It seems to be a semi-acceptable choice as opposed to fully revamping the weapons. I am a little disappointing Mandau was not listed in the sample of adjustments.
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