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Explosions at the Boston Marathon
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2013-04-15 18:17:40
But that's a massive derailment.
Quite right... leads for another great topic to be honest. Back to the topic at hand.
Is it me, or does it seem like the bombs went off prematurely? Heck, we're finding more of them unexploded...
If so then I dont know what they would have been waiting for, timing an explosion to coincide with the "finish" of a marathon is pretty much impossible since they are so spread out. If they wanted to do the most damage they would have detonated at the start when there were 30k people there.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2013-04-15 18:18:43
...and when we go to War against an opposing force, which side is good?
You're taking the quote beyond its boundaries. The purpose is simply to state that though *** up things happen these things are the exception and not the rule.
Even at war, the vast majority of the citizenry isn't engaging in mass murder even if opposing sides both define themselves as "good". The majority of individuals that make up an army don't exactly enjoy the affair of killing people and those who do are usually frowned upon by their peers.
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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2013-04-15 18:20:43
If so then I dont know what they would have been waiting for, timing an explosion to coincide with the "finish" of a marathon is pretty much impossible since they are so spread out. If they wanted to do the most damage they would have detonated at the start when there were 30k people there.
Maybe they were waiting for the moment for all the runners to congregate at the finish line as well as the spectators... but... didn't happen that way.
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By Shiva.Kolossuss 2013-04-15 18:24:31
Has anyone seen any credible information about a picture of a figure walking on the rooftops during the explosion? I saw a picture posted on Facebook, but wasn't sure if it was just photshopped/exaggerated, or if it had any credibility/relevance.
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By Ragnarok.Prefalin 2013-04-15 18:26:04
If so then I dont know what they would have been waiting for, timing an explosion to coincide with the "finish" of a marathon is pretty much impossible since they are so spread out. If they wanted to do the most damage they would have detonated at the start when there were 30k people there.
Maybe they were waiting for the moment for all the runners to congregate at the finish line as well as the spectators... but... didn't happen that way. There was a map thing on one of the sites but can't find it now that showed the explosions and an unexploded. Although sure there is more unexploded found by now but at first glance looked like he hoped people would run to the second explosion, get hit and then few would run other way or while evacuating, get hit and possible go back and forth like a ping pong match. But dozens of possible executions but still saddening that it happened regardless.
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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2013-04-15 18:26:45
Has anyone seen any credible information about a picture of a figure walking on the rooftops during the explosion? I saw a picture posted on Facebook, but wasn't sure if it was just photshopped/exaggerated, or if it had any credibility/relevance.
... I don't think there's been a photo released that show's a rooftop unless it was just put up in the last 15 minutes.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-04-15 18:29:00
Think he means this:
Pretty creepy but likely just coincidence. Or shooped.
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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2013-04-15 18:30:40
I would agree with coincidence but if that were me, I'd gtfo there to avoid confusion.
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By Odin.Arkista 2013-04-15 18:33:50
Think he means this:
Pretty creepy but likely just coincidence. Or shooped. Is that Bigfoot? looks a little off
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By Shiva.Kolossuss 2013-04-15 18:35:30
Think he means this:
Pretty creepy but likely just coincidence. Or shooped.
Yeah, that's the one.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-04-15 18:35:42
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By Odin.Arkista 2013-04-15 18:41:54
Ok so they just got someone into custody so we'll see what that's about soon.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2013-04-15 19:10:45
I kind of hate to pick on WWII, but seeing as a side topic of defining "Good" versus "Evil" came up, this is somewhat relevant, and i will post something relevant to the topic after my rant.
In War, both sides consider themselves to be "Good" for varying reasons. For Hitler, he took Germany to war as a means to "cleanse the earth of scum, and to build a home for the 'True Race'", and justified the mass slaughter of innocent people. He found allies with other nations, and thus the "Axis of Evil" was formed, while the rest of the world watched on with horror, some nations took it upon themselves to stop such violent means. And the Allied Forces began.
Sometimes seeing the difference between how we define good and bad is as simple as looking back through history, but that can also cause problems because we see things as we are, not as the events that unfold are.
Obviously my first paragraph is an extremely short summary, since part of the justification to going to war had to do with how Hitler viewed the ruling class at the time. Having bowed their heads in WWI, many Germans, mostly soldiers and officers, found this as disgraceful, and evil. Hitler believed the Jewish people to be evil, disgusting creatures, that they were not of the Aryan (Noble) Race.
Now... "Good" is often attributed to something beneficial, usually to mankind, a person, people, place, etc. or having high morals. "Evil" is something that usually conflicts with any of the aforementioned. When going to war, both sides typically believe they are justified for one reason or another, and believe that they are "good". It isn't until history is revealed that the people can honestly make any kind of judgment as to whether or not one side is "good" "evil", but because one country's people have attacked them, or they feel any kind of suffering, they then mark the other as "evil".
Now, onto the Boston City Bombings.
Only in the thick fog of carnage, when we first believe we've lost faith in humanity, do we truly see that we are capable of true good. We instinctively rush to aid those around us who have fallen ill, and we comfort those who have suffered loss. From the ashes of pain and suffering can come a strong will, and the power to not only endure, but to conquer our fears. It becomes easy to condemn those responsible, but harder still, is to take it upon ourselves to become stronger, to move forward, and to remain with the faith of the people we know and love, and to build new connections with the strangers seeking aid.
I say unto you, "We have our Humanity, we strive for greatness, and we will build our hearts so that no one can instill in us the fear of losing our families, for they will always be a part of who we are, and why we are here.
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By Odin.Arkista 2013-04-15 19:17:49
This is wrong if it turns out to be true then I'll eat my own words but this is false. They haven't caught anyone or have a Saudi suspect , there are only 2 confirmed dead and now 100+ people hurt.
Well I may end up eating them after all they are now looking for black/dark skinned male that was spotted today. Still didn't have a Saudi National in custody . Also looking for a Penske truck.
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By Alexander.Sumo 2013-04-15 19:25:53
CNN has just now reported that a Saudi national who is being treated with a leg injury is a person of interest and is being questioned. They are trying to run leads against this person but has not been tied to the bombings as of yet.
*Edit* I'll give credit where credit is due. Tenshi was the first one here to mention any article or source that spoke of this Saudi national and we as a forum proceeded to blast him/her for it. For that, Tenshi I apologize for proclaiming that your information was false.
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By Carbuncle.Peimei 2013-04-15 19:45:08
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By Odin.Arkista 2013-04-15 19:53:25
YouTube Video Placeholder o.0 Training exercise looks like they may have had a warning about this a head of time. But at the same time maybe that is just routine for them to do that with such a big event like this. Lets hope this doesn't turn out to be another Benghazi where the government knew and did nothing to prevent it.
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By Sylph.Michizane 2013-04-15 20:06:30
First question from a reporter during press confrence:
"Is this another falsified attack to infringe on peoples civil liberties and take away their hand guns?"
My question to this... WHO THE **** LET THIS NUT CASE INTO THE ROOM!!!
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By Alexander.Sumo 2013-04-15 20:14:02
First question from a reporter during press confrence:
"Is this another falsified attack to infringe on peoples civil liberties and take away their hand guns?"
My question to this... WHO THE **** LET THIS NUT CASE INTO THE ROOM!!! I heard that too. What a way to lead off. Regardless of the reasons for the attack, who in their right mind would ask such an asinine question in the wake of this tragedy?
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2013-04-15 20:17:29
Obviously this guy did.
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By Asura.Wilmakitty 2013-04-15 20:32:44
First question from a reporter during press confrence:
"Is this another falsified attack to infringe on peoples civil liberties and take away their hand guns?"
My question to this... WHO THE **** LET THIS NUT CASE INTO THE ROOM!!!
Obviously someone who needs to be unemployed and flogged!
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By Asura.Fondue 2013-04-15 20:51:46
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By Shiva.Jirachi 2013-04-15 20:52:34
Lets not forget, 3 dead so far.
An 8 year old boy.
A girl (Age unlisted but was a child)
(No info on this person but confirmed 3 dead)
Lets Also hope that some of these people survive:
2 year old boy massive head injury.
(That guy who had his leg blown off, can easily bleed to death)
and hope that everyone who does survive with lost limbs can find a way to return to normal life...i cant imagine losing a limb and returning to anything i currently do.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2013-04-15 20:57:38
When you suffer an injury, something like losing a limb can become catastrophic in nature to how you live your life. It can affect not only you, but how the people around you live as well.
There are the stares, the glares, and peekers, as well as people who ask the most HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE questions, loss of employment, severe long lasting pain, and it can even break up the family unit.
They can't return to what their previous normal lives were, since something has fundamentally changed. They have to seek a new normalcy in an attempt to piece back their lives.
There are also questions about how they would have lived had they not been injured, what they could have done, been able to do, and so on.
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By Cerberus.Ddbone 2013-04-15 21:14:10
Not that it can compare but I recent lost a part of my middle finger on my right hand in an accident and its been about 5 weeks and it has been pretty terrible.
I'm a draftsman so I have been off work, and am currently doing physio to restore proper use in my hand.
When I heard about the guy with the lost leg I immediately felt for him. What he is going thru has to be a million times worse... I'm keeping him in my thoughts.
Everything Bloodrose is spot on to what I've been going through, and just for a finger. I can only imagine how bad it is to loose an arm or leg etc. I have a very new perspective for people who have had to lose a part of themselves to an accident or amputation.
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By Cerberus.Meatster 2013-04-15 21:33:40
Dorners to obvious of a suspect so was bigfoot.
By Enuyasha 2013-04-15 21:52:40
Well, the suspect they have is kinda a suspect but he's kinda not...and then he's in custody but not in custody...and he's saudi...or maybe pakistani...but im sure he's gunna be a muslim in a few hours. Theyll even mispell his name and say he died from his injuries...then magically came back to life and confessed his radical islamic hatred of running shorts.
Shits in the air right now and CNN/FOX/any incredibly HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE news outlet is eating this ***UP.
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By Odin.Arkista 2013-04-15 21:55:52
Well, the suspect they have is kinda a suspect but he's kinda not...and then he's in custody but not in custody...and he's saudi...or maybe pakistani...but im sure he's gunna be a muslim in a few hours. Theyll even mispell his name and say he died from his injuries...then magically came back to life and confessed his radical islamic hatred of running shorts.
Shits in the air right now and CNN/FOX/any incredibly HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE news outlet is eating this ***UP.
They will just tell us they are looking for a black man born in North Korea raised in Germany who converted to islam and in America on a student visa.
By Enuyasha 2013-04-15 22:04:31
Well, the suspect they have is kinda a suspect but he's kinda not...and then he's in custody but not in custody...and he's saudi...or maybe pakistani...but im sure he's gunna be a muslim in a few hours. Theyll even mispell his name and say he died from his injuries...then magically came back to life and confessed his radical islamic hatred of running shorts.
Shits in the air right now and CNN/FOX/any incredibly HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE news outlet is eating this ***UP.
They will just tell us they are looking for a black man born in North Korea raised in Germany who converted to islam and in America on a student visa. Who was hired by Obama as a plot to take away our guns and rip up the constitution.
Three weeks later, Obama will be asked "WHY DIDNT YOU SAVE THE EIGHT YEAR OLD OBAMA! YOU COULDVE DONE SOMETHING!"
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