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Microsoft's Next-Gen Sets Itself Back
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Microsoft's Next-Gen Sets Itself Back
for those... 2hours a year my internet goes down? I'll probably work on my massive back catalog of games I need to finish XD
Shiva.Gib said: » for those... 2hours a year my internet goes down? I'll probably work on my massive back catalog of games I need to finish XD Not everyone has stable internet, nor access to it actually. Gavlin said: » If you want the best FPS exp. you will pick up a PC cause no one does that type better
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Camiie I dont think you understood what I ment, I understand the console is rumored to not funtion tho I find it highly unlikely that it will have no function without internet.
I just ment that this is a forum based on a game that requires internet thus ironic to see it within these forums. I have played this game since 2006 ish pumping 13/mo. + game and expansion costs, so I have paid over 1200 for this game, this game that I can only play while I have internet. Again that is just what I have payed for this game not my PC as your right my PC will still function I would not use it without internet but yea I guess it would still function lol. Just saying that I would not have an issue paying for something that requires internet as stated above I already do. I am not for or against either console I hope they both do great cause all that means is twice the amount of great games I have to choose from. :) A console should play a variety of games though, not just online ones. If it has no use when you're not connected to the internet you're going to lose a big amount of buyers.
Lol Quiznor good point I guess that can be said of any game tho if your PC is powerful enough.
I'm willing to bet that Microsoft is "testing the waters" in order to get feedback from consumers as to how they would really feel about an always online console.
Do you hear that?...It's the sound of blueprint papers shuffling around madly and drawing boards being stood back up...lol Just remember,they also pushed their reveal date back a month from april 24th to may 21st. So chances are something big is changing last minute
Based on forbes magizine at the end of 2012 94% of the U.S. has internet so your right they loose out on 6% of potential buyers.
Microsoft will not fall easily they know there market and know what there doing. Again I doubt the console will not function at all without internet. Truth really is in the games, all it will take is a great game and you, I, and everyone will buy the console good idea or not a great game will change your, my , our minds no matter what we say now.
If we want to play the game everyone is talking about and we will. Then we will buy whatever Console, PC, or hell even Cellphone nowadays that thay game is played on. Gavlin said: » Camiie I dont think you understood what I ment, I understand the console is rumored to not funtion tho I find it highly unlikely that it will have no function without internet. I hope you're right and it will be able to play standalone games without an active connection, but I'm of the opinion that Microsoft would force us to subscribe to Live Gold just to turn the console on if they could. Don't be so quick to discount them wanting to move to always on. Quote: I just ment that this is a forum based on a game that requires internet thus ironic to see it within these forums./quote] The cool thing about FFXI is that it still supports non-broadband connections. Even people with nothing but 56k can play. The Xbox consoles do not and will not. Quote: I have played this game since 2006 ish pumping 13/mo. + game and expansion costs, so I have paid over 1200 for this game, this game that I can only play while I have internet. Again that is just what I have payed for this game not my PC as your right my PC will still function I would not use it without internet but yea I guess it would still function lol. If your net went down you could still type a letter, listen to music, sort through your pictures, etc. With what they're talking about here on the new Xbox, you'd likely just get a screen telling you to check your connection settings. Gavlin said: » I have played this game since 2006 ish pumping 13/mo. + game and expansion costs, so I have paid over 1200 for this game, this game that I can only play while I have internet. Again that is just what I have payed for this game not my PC as your right my PC will still function I would not use it without internet but yea I guess it would still function lol. On a PC you can still play singleplayer games without being connected So you would like to have MS interrupt your game when it needs it's 3rd double-secret-mega-important update this month, or force a version update if your power blinks out before you can continue your game? There is only ONE reason to have internet connection between your house and MS when you are not playing an online game, and that's so MS can control YOU. Most of what this is is preventing you from playing a game you didn't buy, and secondarily to collect marketing data and possible personal information farming. If it were only to facilitate your online gaming experience, it would be your choice when and how you want it.
The very fact that they use "Microsoft points" at an uneven conversion to USD in order to disguise the true cost of their products should show you that they are counting on the gullibility of their consumers. Gavlin said: » Microsoft will not fall easily they know there market and know what there doing. Zune. Zune. Bismarck.Dracondria said: » Gavlin said: » I have played this game since 2006 ish pumping 13/mo. + game and expansion costs, so I have paid over 1200 for this game, this game that I can only play while I have internet. Again that is just what I have payed for this game not my PC as your right my PC will still function I would not use it without internet but yea I guess it would still function lol. On a PC you can still play singleplayer games without being connected I am aware of that but I was just stating I have payed over 1200 for a game a single game that I could only play online as most on this forum have and still are. So my point is why would I not pay a one time fee of (insert console cost here ~399-499 Rumor) to play a game online as well also I know Xbox charges 50/yr for Gold still a lower cost then just what I have payed for FFXI. So my point is if the game or games are good enough we will play them thats all. Gavlin said: » Based on forbes magizine at the end of 2012 94% of the U.S. has internet so your right they loose out on 6% of potential buyers. But many are on a satellite connection or another bandwidth limited service. Quote: Microsoft will not fall easily they know there market and know what there doing. Again I doubt the console will not function at all without internet. They know their market about as well as you know grammar. Which is to say well enough for most purposes but far from ideally. Cases in point: Windows Vista, Windows 8.
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Gavlin said: » Based on forbes magizine at the end of 2012 94% of the U.S. has internet so your right they loose out on 6% of potential buyers. did they also dole out the percentages of what type of internet connection said percentage has? You seem to forget that there are more then just 1 "omg i'm always on hurr durr" ISP Gavlin said: » Microsoft will not fall easily they know there market and know what there doing. Again I doubt the console will not function at all without internet. Yeah you go on and keep thinking that. Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: » Gavlin said: » Microsoft will not fall easily they know there market and know what there doing. Zune. Zune. don't get me started... as much as I hate apple they at least have a good MP3 player... microsoft ... they just made a mockery of that shitty *** thing they thought would work out well. Garuda.Chanti said: » Gavlin said: » Based on forbes magizine at the end of 2012 94% of the U.S. has internet so your right they loose out on 6% of potential buyers. But many are on a satellite connection or another bandwidth limited service. Quote: Microsoft will not fall easily they know there market and know what there doing. Again I doubt the console will not function at all without internet. They know their market about as well as you know grammar. Which is to say well enough for most purposes but far from ideally. Cases in point: Windows Vista, Windows 8. Yes my grammer is not the best, not sure why that was needed to be pointed out. Tho if you feel better about yourself by doing so more power to you. 90% of PC's today run on a Mircosoft based operating system. That is the the stat's of a company who has no clue what there doing? SO I stand by my statement that they will not fall easily. Also may I ask why you want them to fail? Do you not like having the option of multiple devices on which to play games? I am aware you did not state you want them to fail but that is the feeling that I am getting from your posts. Bismarck.Dracondria said: » Shiva.Gib said: » for those... 2hours a year my internet goes down? I'll probably work on my massive back catalog of games I need to finish XD Not everyone has stable internet, nor access to it actually. from what I'm reading as of now the devkits do a 'check' once in a while, it's not like Diablo 3 or SimCity were it streams info constantly. so really seems like you can play just fine even on a rocky connection. And why wouldn't you have the internet, I mean if you didn't something tells me technology really isn't your forté, and you probably don't care about gaming... Microsoft based operating systems operating on PCs != Microsoft's competence in understanding, handling, or carrying out a successful device in the video game industry.
Also we're in a time where exclusive titles per console are a diminishing trait. While there will always be variations in hardware capacity and their ability to handle optimized software therein, it is getting to the point where gamers need only apply to the console of their choice based on characteristics outside of available software. This includes controller schematics, form factor, cost, online marketplace selection and availability, storage capacity, internal features therein that either expand or limit user control operation. If MS is indeed attempting to control or otherwise limit the power or freedom of what their customers are and are not able to do with their system and games therein, I can assure you this will not end well on their part. Gavlin said: » Based on forbes magizine at the end of 2012 94% of the U.S. has internet so your right they loose out on 6% of potential buyers. Microsoft will not fall easily they know there market and know what there doing. Again I doubt the console will not function at all without internet. I dont want sony or microsoft to fail I am by no means saying I like one over the other. I like the option of having both. That is why I paid for both.
If you have a ***internet connection today then play your playstation or your Wii. If you never have a good connection then dont buy one at all I am not sure why you are so mad over something your not being forced to own? Shiva.Gib said: » Bismarck.Dracondria said: » Shiva.Gib said: » for those... 2hours a year my internet goes down? I'll probably work on my massive back catalog of games I need to finish XD Not everyone has stable internet, nor access to it actually. from what I'm reading as of now the devkits do a 'check' once in a while, it's not like Diablo 3 or SimCity were it streams info constantly. so really seems like you can play just fine even on a rocky connection. And why wouldn't you have the internet, I mean if you didn't something tells me technology really isn't your forté, and you probably don't care about gaming... Are you serious? What if you're in an area where they don't have stable internet, or hell, no internet? At my cabin I have power but no internet. What if I decided I wanted to play a game up there but because of their "always on" ***, I wouldn't be able to? I took my PS2 there as a kid and could play just fine. Stop being dumb and think about it for a few minutes.
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Shiva.Gib said: » And why wouldn't you have the internet, I mean if you didn't something tells me technology really isn't your forté, and you probably don't care about gaming... You're missing the point entirely. Despite percentages and statistics, internet connection availability and consistency are not on the same levels as running water or electricity. While I'm sure a general majority including MS's demograph have relatively consistent and fast internet connections, there are and will be many who do not. Which brings the case of the underlying purpose of a console: to play games. Why in God's green earth would you restrict the capacity to play games or anything for that matter on the basis of steadfast internet connection? People buy consoles because they're a single package they know they can plug in and it will work with the given software, if you take that away, why have a console in the first place outside of deemed must-have exclusive titles? Gavlin said: » I dont want sony or microsoft to fail I am by no means saying I like one over the other. I like the option of having both. That is why I paid for both. If you have a ***internet connection today then play your playstation or your Wii. If you never have a good connection then dont buy one at all I am not sure why you are so mad over something your not being forced to own? Because singleplayer games shouldn't require a *** internet connection to work.
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Gavlin said: » If you have a ***internet connection today then play your playstation or your Wii. If you never have a good connection then dont buy one at all I am not sure why you are so mad over something your not being forced to own?  Bismarck.Dracondria said: » Because singleplayer games shouldn't require a *** internet connection to work. Or any non-online functionality period.
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It doesn't bother me because I'll have fiber by next week but there are MANY people up north who don't have that kind of availability. Sure, they can get mobile internet and have a relatively fast connection but it's not always stable and it really shouldn't be required for games that aren't online. The US has pretty terrible internet options in most places and since that's the biggest place for Xbox it would be HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE to have an always-on feature.
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