Magian Magic Damage Staff Merc

I plan on mercing 6 (leaving out dark and light) Magian staves in 7-9 days. I will charge 1.1 M per staff. All the buyer has to do is move from camp to camp (and have the ability to get to the camps). I understand that this alone at least requires having access to your character throughout the day. Because of that, I understand this is not for everyone. I wish it was as easy as a FC leech party. Obviously, it is not.

That, being said, I still know there are people out there who hate grinding trials, who have millions upon millions of gil and would like the staves with little to no work, who have work around the house or can check in at work from time to time, etc.

Anyway, I plan to do 1 staff per day (save fire staff). I would like to start this Thursday, morning sometime EST. I understand with only 3 days notice, I may not get as many people able to join. I do have a lot of time off of work coming up (about 2 weeks with a day here and there in which I need to be in). We may be able to work something out to benefit more people. Please PM me or /tell me in game if you are interested. PMing me here is your best bet, as I am AFK a lot in game.

Now let me get down to some details. There are 9 trials per staff that I am offering (geode trials are for you to work out). But all non-geode trials, I plan on finishing for all 6 (thunder, wind, fire, ice, water, and earth) staves. My loose plan is to get 1 staff done in about 10-12 hours. This is accounting for waiting for weather, moving camps due to overcrowding, etc. Hopefully I can finish them sooner. I will have 2 BLMs mostly againg down mobs. Some trials I expect to be a little slower (magic pots, non-abyssea areas, etc.). Most later trials will be done in abyssea, so restore chests and temp chests will speed things up considerably. The main BLM will be very well geared (Morrigan's +1 2/5, Nares 2/5, etc.).

I have chosen to break the cost down per trial, as D/Cs, RL, etc. will happen. There are 9 trials in all. The first two for each staff can very fast, as only 10 kills are required. However, there may be some waiting involved for weather. The second two trials have to be done on a specific day or with a specific weather. All of these except the fire staff, I plan to do under weather conditions. For the fire staff, I will start it on one day such that I can finish the 3rd trial on firesday, and then finish it the next day such that I will start on firesday. I can probably finish both the 3rd and 4th trial on one firesday. However, doing it this way will give me a small break from the grind, and prevent losing people from extended AFKs, etc.

With that, the breakdown is as follows: Trials 1-2: 50k, Trials 3-5: 100k, Trials 6-7: 150k, Trials 8-9: 200k. If you only need certain trials, and there is room, I am more than willing to let you in.

I have all the camps mapped out already. Access to the past is a must, and several abyssea confluxes are strongly recommended. I am still working on alternative camps in case camps are taken. I can discuss which confluxes will be needed if necessary. Again, I plan to start Thursday 2/14. The exact schedule will be worked out once members start being confirmed.

Please send me any questions, suggestions, or comments (assuming they are constructive). PM me, ask me in game if you can catch me, or just post here. I am sure I forgot something, and want to make all aspects of this clear and fair for all parties involved.

Thanks.

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You don't need to bump this thread every 30 minutes. If anyone is crazy enough to take this deal, they will find you.

I would think anyone dedicated to mage jobs enough to want all of the elemental staves done would probably team up with others interested in the same (or dual box if available), and not pay out of pocket for it. Personally if I was doing them (again) I would just try to find others interested just to make the kills go faster.

That said, if I was on your server and not done with all of mine already, I'd probably buy the kill with light damage ones (but you're not doing light or dark o.o), and maybe the ones you need kills on skeletons or undead (wind maybe?)... was a slight pita but really not bad (dual boxed them).

On the other hand, it was nice to work on them whenever I want and not try to wait on other people... if 3 or 4 people are interested but they can't all get on at the same time, are you going to do the trials twice? Just seems like a hassle, but maybe I'm lazy.

Anyway, good luck.

Get a Flume, you!

Why do you find it so crazy?

Honestly 6.6M for the staves is extremely cheap when compared to the cost of a chatoyant. I had to finish my mdmg staves solo since I couldn't find anyone else who wanted to team up on them. I would definitely take up this offer if I could benefit.

This isn't a bad deal. Of course, it stems from the buyer having the time to put into the trial or not. The staves are not that hard to do solo...just takes a lot of time. If you are a SCH or RDM and want these, then its a good deal. If you are a BLM, you're better off finding it solo to be easier or team up with others doing the trial.

Like I said, I want to be fair. I am obviously here to make some gil, but also offer a service that people might need. I guess I figure if I can get 1 staff done in 10-12 hours, then that is pretty fair for the gil considering dyna or salvage gil per hour.

Yes, I understand that the buyer needs to be somewhat aware in order to move from trial to trial. If that was not the case, I would probably be able to charge a lot more and get a lot more buyers.

Everything is situational. If I am being unfair, let's discuss.

And this is just it. It takes time. Essentially, buyers are paying for time. And for the harder trials (fire trials, magic pots, evil weapons, etc.), I am probably offering a much better deal. At this time, I don't care to break down the prices according to trial. If it gets to that, then ok... but at this point, I am selling complete trial kills (waiting for weather, killing faster than most can, etc.).

Also remember, the main BLM doing this will be using a max staff himself. Whatever trial it may be, he has it capped. Each kill will be faster based on that alone. Also, I will be againg with him. Grabbing multiple mobs, pulling them, and getting several kills at a time. We have not perfected this yet, but I am confident in saying that it will be much faster than doing it yourself.

Advice for you or anyone doing the pots: Grab a MNK friend, pay one if ya have to, and just get single kill shots rather than either -ga'ing them or single target solely-magic-kill nuking them. Saves a world of time.

My general dual box tactic for the trials: leave 2nd blm at 'camp', phalanx/stoneskin/pdt set and pull with first blm, have mana wall ready in case you get a little extra ambitious on the pull. I would pull one (cast blind, smack with a staff, w/e just to make sure it's red for <bt> macros) and would have the 2nd blm sleepga them (spamming sleepga <bt> means I don't have to look at 2nd screen at all).

Recast stoneskin, move both mages to max range, nuke at the same time, and both cast sleepga at the same time (lets you pull a lot of mobs without worrying about a sleepga not getting off due to casting interrupted). You will probably want to cast sleepga in your PDT set. As long as everyone casts on the <bt>, you'll be able to hit and subsquently sleep all the mobs.

With skeletons you have to use breakga... the some of the ones in attohwa are mages, so you have to make sure you herd them correctly so they all get hit at once, but once you get the hang of it, it's not horrible (but definitely not as easy as other ones).

For some sets of mobs, I'd open with Blizzaja and finish with the applicable element; other times I'd nuke exclusively with the applicable element in case of an AF3+2 proc.

Anyway, hope this helps (both you and anyone else looking to do the staff trials aoe style).

I have actually considered this, as the main BLM also has a BB MNK, and pots are weak to blunt. I have thought about a lot of different ways to do this faster. Before I even posted this I actually mapped out every trial and the best place(s) to do it. I considered mobs that link, camps that are often overcrowded, etc. And with the pots (and weapons as well), I have actually considered changing one of our jobs. I truly do want to do this as fast as possible. Thank you for the advice, and I certainly welcome more suggestions (even though I have thought this out very thoroughly, I am far from perfect).

MNK + BLM in grauberg is definitely fastest for pots. For weapons, I did the lower part of Garlaige, in the tunnels south of where Serket pops... I think there's 6 or 7 in a short area, and they fall to 2 -ja nukes, respawn time is 5 minutes. It's not as fast as some of the abyssea ones, but it's easy and, well, mindless. Pull them, nuke, wait 5 minutes, repeat. Much easier than trying to pull the ones in Ro'Maeve since they're spread out, and much lower levels than the ones in sky (although with enough BLMs, that may be a faster route).

For Mousse trials during weather (and possibly not during weather? don't remember) the south section of Den of Rancor is pretty nice. There are two tunnels leading downstairs; I usually would pull a bunch of slimes (and a few bats that come along for the ride) on one side, nuke them down, then repeat for the other side.

I think that covers the non-abyssea ones...

I...

Pull with my THF
Sleepga with my BLM
Nukeja with BLM + sleepga with WHM/BLM
Sleepga2 over the sleepga in case there was a resist
Wait 15-20 seconds or so for timer
Nukeja w/BLM + sleepga with WHM/BLM
Then one will more nukega3 would finish them off. Kill like 20-25 at a time.

Good times.

Perfect description of my loose plan, lol. Though I will pull with a BLM with DT gear. And for most mobs, I would have aquaveil up, so after the sleepga, there is only nuking until dead. Normally a blizzaja with beyond, hell's guardian, and MM atams will allow for a nuke-ja of whatever element is needed in order to finish them.

I have actually run into the issue of 1-shotting mobs before, which is not what I want. And believe it or not, the BLM who will be doing this has -aga 1-shotted several mobs before.

I appreciate the suggestion. It has been considered, and is the way I plan on doing this, lol.

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If people are not interested, I can certainly respect that. May I ask why?

If I were on your server this is definitely something I would consider. Good luck.

Probably because of this


Combined with the fact that magian trial are pretty easy already. You're charging 1.1M per staff for people to show up and NOT press one button(2-3 if you're not using windower). They can neither go AFK for an extended period of time, nor can they do anything else with their character while waiting.

Sure they can go AFK. Not like a FC party I will admit. But for 30 min or so at a time for the early trials, and 1 hr. for the latter ones, absolutely they can AFK. That is really my purpose for doing this. People can come, AFK for a time (the amount of time depending on the trial), come back, go to the moogle, switch the weapon, meet back at the new camp before we start again. Maybe this does not meet your definition of "extended time." In this case, this is not for you. And not everyone can just hit 1 button to get this done as fast as I will do it for them. AND most of the later trials are in abyssea. I will keying myself, and members will get XP chests as well (that may matter to some). That being said, also consider other situations.

A WHM who plans on leveling BLM can do this. Someone who just doesn't want the hassle can do this. Someone who has things to do around the house can do this. Like I said initially, I understand this is not for everyone. But surely, people can AFK and get the trials done. They just need to check back based on the estimated time given in hopes that the trial is done.

If this is not for you, then I respect that. In fact, from the 2 responses I have received, I see it is not for most, lol. But understand, AFKing is not an issue. And a schedule/time to check in will be established.

An abyssea-burnt BLM with an elemental skill of 105 can do this.

Fixed.

I'm teasing. Don't be offended. I just thought a few people reading this post may get a chuckle out of it.

If you're arguing back, then you don't get it.

People can do this. Sure. People can do a lot of things. The question is not whether or not they can do it. It's whether or not it's worth doing.

I am not offended at all. You bring up a good point, which actually helps my cause. Plenty of mages out there with very low skill. I have seen it myself. BLMs trying to sleepga as few as 3-4 mobs, and 1-2 resisting. No worries here. Even if we do happen to have a mob resist, we will recover, most likely with the buyers not even noticing.

We do have 3 people thus far. PM me or /tell me in game if you are interested. I won't lie and say that I am selling out, lol. I am not.

If you are interested, and cannot make the times I have set, let me know. This is a loose schedule thus far. Changes can be made.

I am not sure if you are referring to me or not. I am not trying to argue with anyone. I am simply offering a service. Take it or leave it.

And in this case, I do believe a lot hinges on whether or not they can do it. I have actually talked to a few people now who would like to work something out because they cannot do it. I have also worked it out such that some people, if I do actually do this, they will join for certain trials.

I am not sure what it is you think I don't get. If your comment was not for me, then I apologize. If so, then please elaborate.

wait, are we seriously arguing over whether the same people who pay to play ffxi and do nothing but stand in PJ waiting for someone to do a vw so they can get nothing are the same people that wouldn't pay to have someone do magian trials for them?
I'm confused.
To sum up, it's a good deal for those who don't want/like to do magian trials. Stop derailing his thread.
A million gil to save the trouble of grinding through all those kills is worth it. And if it isn't, don't join.

Titan mountain buster works for earth magic dmg staff trials not just geocrush, useful for pots id take a smn over the suggested mnk if someone had both and was offering to assist.

Right.

The man was asking why people weren't interested in his service.



@baronton
When someone is trying to explain something to you, such as a question you personally asked yourself, and you opt disregard it, try to justify your offer to yourself, and/or worst yet, simply repeat your points over again, you're not doing yourself any favors.

Your deal wasn't exactly complicated. We understood it the first time.

What you should have said was, "Oh, so that's why people aren't interested in this offer." If you're feeling nice, you can throw in a 'Thanks for telling me" at the end.

This is honestly a great deal for someone who doesn't want to put in the effort of doing annoying trials. Would absolutely hit you up if I were on the same server. People vastly underestimate how much work you have to put in for each staff, 1.1m can be earned much easier than doing staff trials.

1.1m is almost not even worth doing the staff for the person who's doing the work for you, and there's still bitching that it's a bad deal? Get outta here. I'd totally hit up this deal if I could

No one's complaining about the deal. Knee-jerk less.