Best Mythic Weapon And Why

The jury will be out on Burtgang until SoA/enmity fixes/defensive fixes. Right now it is an excellent weapon for things you would bring a paladin to (ie, things like Legion where you don't even draw the weapon).

If PLD gets a revival after those changes, then it could climb this chart rather quickly.

And, of course, all of this is obscuring the simple fact that you shouldn't be making mythics based on the bandwagon mentality. They're the last truly massive investment in FFXI, so make them for the job you want to play. If you want to be strong on the flavor of the week, that's what relics and empyreans are for.

"Let me make a weapon that costs the most gil/most time consuming for my mediocre job, and make a weapon far less gil/time consuming for my good jobs"


Flawless logic, chief

I realize this is some breaking news type ***, but some people enjoy playing jobs that aren't $CURRENTLY_STRONGEST_DPS.

Mythics aren't required for any existing content. There's no reason to make one for a job you don't like.

I can, because the only type 1 use in which DNC would be questionable I might ever go to is Voidwatch, and I usually make the alliance and go whatever job I want*!

*Caveat: I usually go COR so I can watch Netflix.

Kenkonken or bust.

And it's those subpar jobs, that will quite clearly remain subpar you should advocate emps/relics to.

A mythic for a job you don't want to play isn't doing you any good.

threads title is: Best Mythic Weapon and why
not: I play this job the most, which mythic should i make.

*this is a futile attempt to re-rail the thread*

"Best mythic" is open to interpretation.

personal job bias shouldn't be a factor when comparing all mythics against each other.

And the point is, that doesn't mean anything. Best depends on what you interpret "good" as. If by "good" you mean DPS, then it's Kogarasumaru/Ryunohige/Conqueror. If by "good" you mean "amplifies a job's performance over the relic/empyrean options" then things like Yagrush/Nirvana/Burtgang/Terpsichore enter the discussion.

If you mean "good" as in "not good", then the answer is Gastraphetes.

Great example of a weapon breakdown without job bias. Thank You.

Refer back to my first post within this thread, the OP is asking for the best mythic, in this context I believe he's asking which are the most powerful/useful,based on that, he wants feedback to decide on what to make. I presented a list, only to get replies from people who are trying to advocate otherwise; weaker and less useful mythics, so to speak.

I'm not the one derailing what the OP is requesting, friend

oops? It's your opinion on what you posted, it's their opinion whether to believe it or not, all you're doing is shoving it down everyones throat saying "HERE .. THIS ... THIS!!!! ... THISSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!"

OP's post is asking for opinions with very little context provided.

Edit: beaten

wasn't directed at you.

The OP hasn't given any details as to how to judge "Best" so people can break it down however they want at this point. They could say which provides the highest DPS, they could say whichever improves that specific job the most, they could say which will see the most use in current events. Until they come in and say something along the lines of "Which mythic will see the most use?" or "Which mythic looks to have the most potential for the future?" it's kinda hard to derail unless we start talking about cabbage or something.

What's the best cabbage, and why?

That depends. Are you looking for the most flavorful, the cheapest, or the one that performs best on spreadsheets?

BEST MEANS NOTHING, WOMAN!

Yeah, the worst thing is when bias affects people's opinions.

Best as in, biggest impact on the job it's for? Because weapons like Koga or Conqueror don't really "change" the job much, but they're useful because SAM and WAR are good jobs.

Or useful because in situations where you could use that job, the weapon will change or significantly enhance the job somehow? Kenkoken and Burtgang are attached to jobs that see virtually no endgame use, but they're still incredibly useful to PUP and PLD.

Or some combination of both? Ryunohige really bumps DRG up a notch, but you're still on DRG, and Carnwenhan's song duration buff is basically a quality of life type deal for BRD, but it's still a huge buff and lets the BRD focus on other things.

Obviously Murgleis is objectively the most useful.

Here are opinions on the weapons people usually cite as being "good."

Kogarasumaru: Powerful, extremely high DPS weapon attached to a miserable WS, but luckily you can spam Shoha so it's only annoying once every 3 minutes. Samurai is poised well with natural talent to refresh AM3. Unfortunately, this weapon will see most of its use in high DPS scenarios and unless you're rolling in the Real Housewives of Upper Jeuno you lose a good portion of your "Advantage" due to Fighter's Roll. Has a severe weakness in the accuracy department compared to other options and cannot effectively be combined with Yoichinoyumi (which is an issue in things like Mul). Potential for further usefulness if Seigan tanking ever becomes useful again.

My verdict: A nonessential upgrade for SAM, but still an excellent powerhouse weapon.

Ryunohige: Powerful, extremely high DPS weapon attached to an excellent WS. This weapon is the most extreme buff to any specific job that exists in the game, taking it from the garbage can to superstar. DRG is well-poised to abuse jumps to refresh AM3, but has issues if it absolutely cannot keep its Wyvern alive for whatever reason. Suffers the same problem in the buff department as Kogarasumaru, but due to DRG's natural bonuses does not suffer in the accuracy department.

My verdict: If you want to play DRG, this isn't just recommended, it's mandatory. DRG is very poorly designed and barely keeps up with 1h jobs without it.

Conqueror: The weakest of the "Powerhouse" weapons. It's arguably the highest DPS option Warrior can wield, but the margin is lower in part because you're using inferior WS. It can't fully abuse the augment on Berserk, and Berserk can be dispelled.

My verdict: A potent option to have around for WAR, but Ryunohige and Kogarasumaru probably offer larger boosts to their respective jobs. Still, if you prefer WAR to SAM or DRG, this is the one to make.

Yagrush: An extremely expensive macro piece. A yagrush will not vastly improve your performance on WHM.

My verdict: A complete waste of gil. Still, if all you want to do is play WHM it's an upgrade. Out of all the mythics that aren't absolutely terrible (Nagi and Murgleis, we're looking at you), Yagrush has the weakest effort - reward ratio.

Nirvana: Offers a significant damage to SMN's BP damage and is the highest -perp staff available. It's a one of a kind boost to SMN.

My verdict: SMN is a pretty terrible job and the boost to it from Nirvana is a lot worse than people pretend it is. In the sort of events where you'd care about SMN damage (think 75 cap SMN stuff), SMN is not meleeing and refreshing AM3, so physical BPs don't even get a boost. This weapon doesn't remove SMN's hindrances, it just makes for occasional ":D" screenshots. If your main passion is SMN then whatever, go for it, but this weapon is still not very good. Compared to the other mythics people will frequently or occasionally cite as "useful" (and even some of the mythics that are frequently ignored), Nirvana only beats Yagrush in effort-reward (and Yagrush is attached to a much more important job). At least it's great for SMN solo.

Honestly, I think this would be a more interesting thread. Which items offer the most extreme boosts to a job's functionality/utility?

Ryunohige DRG?
Daurdabla BRD?
Aegis PLD?
Armageddon COR?

Addendum, without going into detail:

Weapons like Terpsichore and Kenkonken offer significant boosts to their respective jobs that likely rival Ryunohige in potency. But you won't use these jobs in Legion or Odin V2 (but you can use them pretty much everywhere else - people can say what they want but Legion and Odin II are really the only "restrictive" events in the game at the moment and of the two, Odin II is renewed old content with questionable rewards and Legion is pretty obviously filler content that will probably be abandoned once SoA content is released). If you're on DNC or PUP most of the time (and want to continue on DNC or PUP mot of the time) you won't regret making these weapons especially if you have a backliner you don't mind taking to Legion, or don't do Legion at all. Additionally, in Terpsichore's favor, DNC is up with SAM and DRG in the advantage of having innate tools AM3 maintenance, something other jobs do not have.


Weapons like Glanzfaust and Tizona sidegrade to more frequently used weapons most of the time, but if you're on their respective jobs almost always due to personal preference they could be good investments for you. Liberator also likely falls in this category.

Aymur is a one-of-a-kind option for BST as it's really the only thing that you can do to significantly increase the output of your pets, but it's still not very good. This weapon is better than Nirvana but SMN is a lot more useful and as such the comparison evens out in Nirvana's favor. I would only make this if the only job I spent a significant portion of time on was BST, and I had no aspirations to play other jobs.

Laevateinn (sp.) is BLM's best Meteor staff, but its usefulness pretty much ends there and as far as I'm aware, Meteor isn't a strategy to which the playerbase has particularly warmed up.

Carnenwhan (sp.) is a quality-of-life adjustment for BRD but it really won't change the way you do business and I wouldn't personally consider it a good investment unless the only thing you ever do is BRD.


The remaining options are barely worth discussing, even for the most devout career <insert job here>, except as trophies.

Aw, no love for Burtgang? It's actually a nice upgrade for the one thing PLD is still good at (not taking damage).

I guess you could toss it in with Glanzfaust and Tizona if you really wanted to but I just can't with good conscience pretend that the boost Burtgang offers actually matters for anything.

Like, let me be more clear. In most cases I'll add "but if you're on this job 100% of the time, this weapon still might be good for you." For something like Liberator, Tizona, Glanzfaust - if you're always on those jobs - there could be times where the mythic was the best option to be using, and if you didn't have it, you might wish that you did.

I can't produce a comparable situation for Burtgang. You could be on PLD 100% of the time and the only time you'd miss Burtgang is in Port AFK.

My advice? Make whatever the heck you want and forget what other people say about it. It's your character, you make the choices not them.

I for one would make a Tizona just to have one if I still played.

Burtgang surpasses the PDT cap, reduces Enmity loss from damage, and is a substantial source of Enmity+. It is the best shield that you can wear in your main weapon slot, and is the best sword for pretty much every application PLD has at the moment (getting beaten but not dying). It's not a DD powerhouse like Almace and Atonement is resisted against most monsters. PLD also has no native way to maintain AM3. Still, if your only goal is to stay alive then Burtgang is the weapon for you.

The only place at the moment where I think it would make a difference is against Paramount Gallu with Mighty Strikes up. Our Paladin has been one-shotted by him before.


As far as what weapon you decide to make, that will be up to you. I made Terpsi and am perfectly happy with it. I enjoy doing the events where I go Dancer (which represents a substantial number of them at the moment) and doubt I'd be much better off with another weapon. Still, it would be disingenuous to pretend that Terpsi or Dancer is the best option for most of the stuff I do. I'm sure that if I had Kogarasamune and liked SAM, I could just as easily 3-box Salvage with a Samurai DD and might even do it faster.

I'd get Ryunohige or Yagrush(on mule ofc), personally. Carnwenhan is nice, but it's not going to do much besides have you sing before the COR instead of roll>sing>other roll for a 5 DD party. Koga and Conqueror are cool, but don't really provide the damage boost I'd expect out of a 600mil investment.. at least Ryuno would add another job to what I can DD on.

So many assaults c.c