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By Jetackuu 2013-01-09 13:40:40
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Phoenix.Prince said: »
i will give FF9 a little love. it was a great return to medieval/fantasy setting.

now, can someone direct me to the FFTactics is the best FF thread?

I do need to play Tactics again, I never did finish the PSP remake, or try anything with the multiplayer...
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By Carbuncle.Snoochybooch 2013-01-09 13:47:01
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FFIX was the first FF I played, consequently made me fall in love with the entire series.
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By Ragnarok.Rezeak 2013-01-09 13:49:16
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
I think people who say X was the last "good" FF are also misguided as XII for all its faults delivered a better story on the whole than:

FFV
FFIII
FFII
FF
FFIV

Beating 5 Final Fantasies at a cohesive story while still being flawed due to executive meddling is pretty fair.

Yea 4 has a way stronger story that 12 imo that said 1,4 and 5 are better story wise imo.

With 9 it took me a second playthough for me to really get it and after i considered it equal with 1,4,5,6,7,8,9,10
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2013-01-09 13:49:41
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Carbuncle.Snoochybooch said: »
FFIX was the first FF I played, consequently made me fall in love with the entire series.

I first tried 8 at my friend's place but when I saw that 9 was coming out I bought 9 myself and completed that and instantly fell in love with the series, playing 8 and then 7 after (and all the rest). It's a very good game to get someone into the series.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2013-01-09 13:50:50
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Though 12's story was pretty bad after the first half of the game it had a wonderful world, battle system and sidequests.
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By Cerberus.Drayco 2013-01-09 13:51:21
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FF9 is the only FF I've never been able to get through. I really need to play through it. I found it was very boring when I first bought it, couldn't keep me interested.
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By Phoenix.Prince 2013-01-09 13:52:07
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Jetackuu said: »
I do need to play Tactics again, I never did finish the PSP remake, or try anything with the multiplayer...
I own two PSP's just to take advantage of multiplayer whenever a friend who likes game is around! this game kills it for replay value and being able to face off PvP is just that much more fun

would it be on Vita, then, too?
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By Bahamut.Lordzetta 2013-01-09 13:55:22
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Final Fantasy 9 is a great game but I have to agree with Prince on this one about Tactics.I remember getting it used wondering if I was going to enjoy it and holy crap how I enjoyed that game.Great story, memorable music and of course "Easy Mode" Orlandu Cid.

Jetackuu said: »
Phoenix.Prince said: »
i will give FF9 a little love. it was a great return to medieval/fantasy setting.

now, can someone direct me to the FFTactics is the best FF thread?

I do need to play Tactics again, I never did finish the PSP remake, or try anything with the multiplayer...

You should give the psp version a try. The DRK job was a great addition especially when trying to give Ramza a sub job
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By Valefor.Ranulf 2013-01-09 13:57:07
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PSP version of Tactics lags horribly for me, and apparently a lot of others. Using abilities such as Stasis Sword and Lightning Stab, item usage, and magic spells. FPS will drop to like, 2 lol.
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By Jetackuu 2013-01-09 14:04:20
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Oh I've played War of the Lions some, just not much.

I'd start from scratch I think as I forget where I was from (I have a bad habit of doing this).
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2013-01-09 14:05:57
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Is it just me or is War of the Lions suuuuuuuuuuper slow in combat? I did enjoy Tactics Advance 1 and 2 but WotL just seemed a lot slower to me.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2013-01-09 14:10:06
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Bismarck.Dracondria said: »
Is it just me or is War of the Lions suuuuuuuuuuper slow in combat? I did enjoy Tactics Advance 1 and 2 but WotL just seemed a lot slower to me.

It is, they broke all animations. For that reason alone, the psp port sucks.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-01-09 14:10:16
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It had some data reading issues, yes. It also changed the original translation, which I liked better. It made it hand-held though and added multi-player, so it didn't bug me much. I enjoyed War of the Lions for what it was, though I appreciated the original more. I honestly think SE should release a small MMO based on FFT's battle system (FFT, not FFTA), with some rebalancing.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2013-01-09 14:10:53
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Bismarck.Dracondria said: »
Is it just me or is War of the Lions suuuuuuuuuuper slow in combat? I did enjoy Tactics Advance 1 and 2 but WotL just seemed a lot slower to me.

It has lag issues.

Tactics Advance spit in the face of Tactics imo. The watered down combat and the childish plots divorced entirely from the serious nature(yes, demons popping outta stones is serious) of the original undercut what made FFT a great game.

That's not to say FFT didn't have flaws but FFTA and FFTA2 went in the wrong direction.
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By Valefor.Ranulf 2013-01-09 14:11:16
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Bahamut.Serj said: »
Bismarck.Dracondria said: »
Is it just me or is War of the Lions suuuuuuuuuuper slow in combat? I did enjoy Tactics Advance 1 and 2 but WotL just seemed a lot slower to me.

It is, they broke all animations. For that reason alone, the psp port sucks.
There's a patch out there that someone made, but you nee Firmware and a USB cable for the entire thing. It's just too much trouble. I'll just play the PSX version. That's what made me fall in love with the game.
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By Bismarck.Narshee 2013-01-09 14:12:36
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http://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?topic=8490.0

Not that hard or time consuming to install a LCFW to your psp and very little risk involved at all. The patch works wonderfully.. if anything its a little too fast.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2013-01-09 14:14:12
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
It had some data reading issues, yes. It also changed the original translation, which I liked better. It made it hand-held though and added multi-player, so it didn't bug me much. I enjoyed War of the Lions for what it was, though I appreciated the original more. I honestly think SE should release a small MMO based on FFT's battle system (FFT, not FFTA), with some rebalancing.

Gonna disagree here, I liked the period language they put into WOTLs translation. For instance:

"Blame yourself or God" < "'Tis your faith and birth that wrong you, not I"

The update sounded much better. Many of the translation errors were also fixed, the cut-scenes weren't necessary but nice to have and the game is much better outside further unbalancing the ***with Balthier.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Wulfie 2013-01-09 14:16:28
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One word. Quina. /thread
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2013-01-09 14:16:30
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Tactics was never released in Europe, nor on the European PSN and because they blocked European credit cards from buying stuff in the NA store it's pretty much impossible for me to get it legally.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-01-09 14:17:15
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Perhaps it's nostalgia, but many of my favorite lines were heavily modified, and it altered the image of the characters I'd long adored, neither beneficially or negatively for the most part... and for that reason seemed unnecessary.

EDIT: I also played the PSX version, start to finish, about 10 times or more. So playing it again, and common things like dialogue being largely different was strange.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2013-01-09 14:25:29
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
Perhaps it's nostalgia, but many of my favorite lines were heavily modified, and it altered the image of the characters I'd long adored, neither beneficially or negatively for the most part... and for that reason seemed unnecessary.

FFT just had amazing lines in general, ***that just blows away the other FFs in terms of depth and real world applications.

Like this quote was upgraded imo:

Quote:
Miluda: Who do you think you are!? We're not animals! We're
human, just like you! There's no difference among us other
than our families! You ever been hungry? With only soup to eat
for months? Why do we have to suffer? Because you nobles
deprive us our right to live!

Algus: Human? Hmph, ridiculous! From the minute you were born
you had to obey us! From the second you were born you were our
animals!!

Miluda: Says who!? That's nonsense! Who decided all this?!

Algus: It's the Will of Heaven!

Miluda: Heaven? God would never say such things! In his eyes,
all are equal! He'd never let this happen! Never!

WOTL:

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Milleuda: How can you nobles live as you do and yet hold your heads so high? We
are not chattel! We are humans, no less than you! What flaw do you hold there
to be in us? That we were born between a different set of walls? Do you know
what it means to hunger? To sup for months on naught but broth of bean? Why
must we be made to starve that you might grow fat? You call us thieves, but it
is you who steal from us the right to live!

Argath: You, no less human than we? Ha! Now there's a beastly thought. You've
been less than we from the moment your baseborn father fell upon your mother in
whatever gutter saw you sired! You've been chattel since you came into the
world drenched in common blood!

Milleuda: By whose decree!? Who decides such foul and absurd things?

Argath: 'Tis heaven's will!

Milleuda: Heaven's will? You would pin your bigotry on the gods? No god would
fain forgive such sin, much less embrace it! All men are equal in the eyes of
the gods!

Argath: Men, yes. But the gods have no eyes for chattel.

Milleuda: You speak of devils, not gods!

Algus/Argath was just a lovable ***.
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By Jetackuu 2013-01-09 14:32:29
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Tactics was never released in Europe, nor on the European PSN and because they blocked European credit cards from buying stuff in the NA store it's pretty much impossible for me to get it legally.

can you not just get these?

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=playstation+points

with your cc and then get it?

I mean to be frank, if you want to play it bad enough, just pirate it. (inb4 pirate haterade).
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By Bahamut.Serj 2013-01-09 14:32:44
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Dialogue in both games is outstanding. The lag on all animations in the psp version literally killed the port for me though.
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By Bahamut.Blze 2013-01-09 14:40:26
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..... FF9 is on par with the likes of 7 8. good story line good combat system had 2 player mode item creation system good JOB classes not like 7 and 8 which pretty much every ones the same only separated by their limit breaks. no brooding Emo main hero, one of that largest cast of pc and npc you could actually play with.only 9 didn't have was flashy multi-hit limit breaks or one summon that can kill the end boss in one go. FF9 had everything people complain about what FF games now lack and more. plus one that best looking Bahamuts in the series imo. one thing i would wanted was the fight out of the Lifa tree after zidane came to save kuja to play thru, and only two villains Busted a planet Kefka and Kuja! their clothing options aside... Besides zidane got his spotlight in FF Dissidia one of the best game characters.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2013-01-09 14:49:46
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Jetackuu said: »
Bismarck.Dracondria said: »
Tactics was never released in Europe, nor on the European PSN and because they blocked European credit cards from buying stuff in the NA store it's pretty much impossible for me to get it legally.

can you not just get these?

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=playstation+points

with your cc and then get it?

I mean to be frank, if you want to play it bad enough, just pirate it. (inb4 pirate haterade).

I have WotL for my PSP though, I'd probably just find the fix. Plus I kinda like how they talk in it.
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By Phoenix.Dabackpack 2013-01-09 14:55:33
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For me, it's:

1.) FFVI
2.) FFIV
3.) Tactics

Tactics is actually incredibly good, despite not being in the numbered series.
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By Cerberus.Mander 2013-01-09 16:21:31
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Sure it was complex. Having to figure out which spells junctioned with what best along with which GFs with who depending on compatibility and what the character needed to be able to junction etc. Not to mention having to flip flops things here and there depending on what you're fighting. It's plenty complex(at least compared to IX's bland system). I didn't say it was hard.
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By Bahamut.Cantontai 2013-01-09 16:24:43
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FFT: WotL that came out for iPad has zero lag issues, just occasionally some graphics display issues that can be solved by restarting the game.

And I love FF9 for its story, but holy ***, the Trance system is AWFUL. FF7/5/6/Tactics all have vastly superior combat/progression systems.
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By Shiva.Bigslank 2013-01-09 16:35:08
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for me its 3,5,7 not in any order
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By Phoenix.Jettu 2013-01-09 16:35:58
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Quina a blue mage, win
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