New Gaming PC Choices.

Got Money, wanna buy a new PC. Wanna play FF14 at max, and enjoy other HQ games.
Here are my choices:

VIBOX TORNADO-58 £543
AMD FX6200 4.2GHz Six Core CPU
8GB of 1333Mhz DDR3 RAM
2TB Hard Drive Storage Space
Nvidia GeForce GT 630 4GB
High Performance USB3 Motherboard
DVD-RW +/- & WiFi
Stylish Vibox Phoenix Gaming Case
Windows 8 Operating System 64 Bit


VIBOX JAGUAR-12 £540
AMD FX8150 4.0GHz Core CPU
8GB of 1333Mhz DDR3 RAM
3TB Hard Drive Storage Space
Nvidia GeForce GT630 4GB Graphics Card
High Performance USB3 Motherboard
DVD-RW +/- & Wifi
Stylish Vibox Shark Gaming Case
Windows OS Not Included

Vibox - Fast Quad Core Gaming PC £474
AMD Bulldozer FX-4170 4.2GHz Quad Core CPU
16GB of 1333Mhz DDR3 RAM
2TB Hard Drive Storage Space
ATI Radeon HD 6670 2GB Graphics Card
High Performance Gigabyte Motherboard
DVD ReWriter +/-
Fighter Gaming Case & 450W Standard PSU
Windows 8 Disk & Key Included



Help me out guys!!!

None of those video cards will play 14 on max

Which one, do you think would produce the best quality?

Not a big fan of AMD or Radeon i use to have a GT630 and it sucks floppy donkey *** MIGHT be able to get it to play 14 on low... it save your money and keep saving if you really wanna play newer games on max. If i HAD to choose from these 3 id get the top one since the processor is the best but both those cards dont expect anything good from them...

Get 7.
As for those builds, you don't need 16GB of RAM for gaming, 8 is more than enough (and 12 I guess if you really want to futureproof).
I'd probably say the top one is best though.

To be perfectly honest however I'd recommend building your own PC as opposed to buying (what looks to be) prebuilt ones from a store. If that's something you're interested in, in the spoiler is currently one of the best, most up to date guides listing best value for money components tiered into price ranges.

Could also check out this site http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/game_requirements_check

select your processor and video card it iwll tell you what games u can run

You may be able to run FFXIV: ARR on those cards at low or maybe medium. 2.0 will have much lower systems specs from 1.x. Also the benchmark for FFXIV: ARR may be coming soon. Also, is there any reason you want such a powerful CPU? If it's for gaming don't really need anything that high of course more is better but not as much as you would think. Could maybe spend less on the CPU and upgrade the GPU or even pick up a SSD. But I'd lean towards a better GPU.

BTW...Windows 8 really sucks for gaming and just in general. Unless its a touch screen, then it only sucks.

ARR Alpha ran well on high with an amd a6-3650 (quad core, 2.6ghz), 8gb pc3-12800 and a Nvidia 560se. I agree with Xenshi, less cpu - more gpu.

Im really not ver good tthis kind thing, I cant build PC'S and im not sure where to buy from, all I need is a tower, I have the rest. My budget is £500 but I could stretch a bit.

my advice:

1. Don't buy a prebuilt, you're wasting your money. Building a computer isn't hard, there's some nice instructional videos on Newegg. (there and Tigerdirect are also great places to get the parts).

2. If you must buy a computer, buy Asus. It's going to be cheaper than those sites, but good quality. You'll probably also get some sort of tech support. (still recommend building it.

3. Get Windows 7 if you must use Windows, 8 blows (ME v3).

4. You're not going to get a real "gaming PC" for under $1000, don't kid yourself. You're just being fooled by Dishonest advertising.


5. You can get an OEM Copy of Windows 7 online (legally) for around $140, it's much cheaper than the retail copies and if you get a new piece of hardware without an OS it's 100% legal.

Define: Real?


I paid $700 for mine and it's a pretty good rig... not top of the line but good enough to run damn near everything now. (mind you... not prebuilt)

sorry, forgot that you're UK, I'm not familiar with online parts outlets that ship there, I'm sure a few others are though.

if nothing else listen to these 2 bits:

avoid those scam PC building websites, they overcharge for mediocre parts, it's a rip-off.

avoid Windows 8, Microsoft will realize their folly and release something else in a few years, or people will just stick with 7 for over a decade like others have with XP.

Catnip: you have had nothing but problems with your computer. (I'm blaming it on shitty parts to be honest, IIRC you had bad RAM?)

"real gaming PC" can be entirely subjective though as there is no "real" set standard.

and yeah $700 in building it, even if you paid a guy a bit to do it, would still be cheaper than buying a prebuilt, or definitely one off those websites. (for the same level of hardware).

I can build a $2000 rig for $1200 if I get the parts myself.

lol yeah all it was was bad RAM, guy thinks he may have bought some that wasn't being read by the motherboard (honest mistake I guess, I looked online and by what I can see it should have worked lol)


Other then that everything works peachy :)

not really...

I mean RMA's happen on even the best parts, but it's very rare.

edit: and give it a few weeks.

btw Catnip:

I got the baby momma that bamboo drawing pad (I think it was you I talked with about that) she loves it.

Try CCL, they're UK based. You choose the PC parts you want (and prices aren't too bad) and they'll build the PC on your behalf. It will come fully assembled and ready for use. I bought a PC from them and was very happy with it, and their service. When I had issues with a graphics card failing before the warranty ended they were excellent about replacing it too.

Got a free upgrade!

Awesome thanks!

Cool i'm still on the fence about getting it (I will probably soon!)

First thing: as much as I hate to say it forget AMD CPUs at this point in time. Look for an Intel i5. The Trinity-based A10 might stand a chance but don't even THINK about buldozer based AMDs.

Two articles that might help you:

Best Gaming CPUs For The Money: December 2012

Best Graphics Cards For The Money: December 2012

If you can build it yourself or with help from a friend do so. You will save money.

Also, for high end gaming other than XIV, you want a SSD even if you don't know it yet.

Just a little tip, if you do buy it prebuilt try to get it from a US site. PCs cost a bit more on UK based sites then they would to just buy them from a us site and ship it to the UK.

Most sites have it so they just change pounds to dollars, so that shouldn't really be an issue.

Wouldnt it have a wrong PSW?

Using that site i found this:

Intel Core i5-3450 3.1GHz Processor 6MB L3 Cache 5GT/s Bus Speed (Boxed)
Kingston HyperX 8GB (2x4GB) Memory Kit 1600MHz DDR3 Non-ECC CL9 240-pin DIMM with Intel XMP Support
Gigabyte GA-H61MA-D2V Motherboard
Seagate Barracuda© SATA 6Gb/s 1TB Hard Drive
CCL Value Choice 7770 OEM Graphics Card
LiteOn IHES112 12X Blu-Ray Combo Drive SATA Internal Optical Drive
Fractal Design Core 1000 PC Case
XFX Pro 450W Power Supply Unit (Core Edition)
CarePack - 2 Year Return to Base
TP-Link TL-WN781ND 150Mbps Wireless Lite N PCI Express Adapter
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (SP1)

£576.73 inc VAT

Any thoughts on this?

I would suggest aiming for a higher rated power supply 450 watts is a bit on the low end more so if for gaming since video cards typically are power hogs better more power then needed then to be starved. 650 watt power supply would be sufficient as it leaves you flexibility for the future.

most power supplies have a 120/240 switch, you'd just need a different cable.

It's easy to build a pc, even I can do it!!

Try to upgrade the vid card and power supply.

As it is its fairly well balanced but can't be upgraded without a higher wattage PS. And I think you want a higher level vid card.

And a SSD too. Really.

can i post my setup and see how crappy it is?

Sure, or pm me