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By Garuda.Fightingfurball 2009-06-16 20:22:53
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ok got kinda bored and haven't read like the 10 pages of ideas some of them just silly Utsusemi: San seriously if you cant tank with what your got on Nin thats your fault. I do agree nin odes need an update their damage could be a little better as far as being a DD goes maybe something like a hasso for nin what increases spell recast but increases dual wield affect?
BLM needs something new too play with Meteor! maybe have it a bit like Nether Blast what does about 1600 dmg at 75 and has less Enmity giving blm more use in a normal pt?
DRK needs something decent too use ele skill on nfi what though ;;
BLU needs that rapid shot trait removed it is just stupid!
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By Ramuh.Vagnagun 2009-06-17 17:16:09
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Dasva said:
Make GM a questable job...


LOL,

Drk: needs sumthing magical for cereal.. even with ele skill caps DD gear focus + me being elvaan...
mobs outside of bastok survive my blizzard 2...

Cor: the rolls are expensive and majority of them you dont even use...
please.. give me something good... haste

and most of all... A new tank class!!
only two to choose from. making a party sux.. i have 4 dd's looking a few healers a rdm lfg.. but not a pld or a nin... /fail
even just buff warrior to be a tank again..

DD class:11
mage( healing or destructing): 5
support: 2 (cor and brd, for differential stat boosts)
tank: 2...
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-06-17 18:46:10
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Vagnagun said:
A new tank class!!
only two to choose from.

No. Numerous jobs make effective tanks at certain levels, the fact that the player base has a collective one-track mind is not SE's problem. Beyond PLD and NIN I've tanked EXP parties as WAR and BLU and been in parties with SAM and DNC tanks. I've seen DRK/NIN tank and been in parties where the RNG tanked the back half of a mob because they were such strong DD. Nobody died; in fact nobody even complained. RDM/NIN at endgame, MNK can tank early on and 74+. We have tanks in spades already.
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By Hades.Bazing 2009-06-18 12:40:40
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Utsusemi San is the dumbest idea ever. NIN/DNC can solo a ridiculous amount of stuff already,and you wanna give them an extra five shadows? Give NIN double march and haste and it can solo goddamn anything then.
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By Asura.Vespera 2009-06-18 12:49:03
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Bazing said:
Utsusemi San is the dumbest idea ever. NIN/DNC can solo a ridiculous amount of stuff already,and you wanna give them an extra five shadows? Give NIN double march and haste and it can solo goddamn anything then.


Agreed. If ninja deserves to get anything out of an update it should be Jubaku and Dokumori Ni. But even then that has potential to be broken as hell.
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By Pandemonium.Aravol 2009-06-18 13:03:40
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lol, only thing NIN needs is maybe a little more damage they can do, thats it. Soloing is so easy with NIN, they dont need anymore shadow help.
As far as another tank class. THats not a bad idea. True more jobs can tank but you arent going to invite, for the most part, anything other than a NIN or PLD.
Maybe a Tank that dabbles in Black Magic, instead of White magic like the PLD.
They could also give it JOB only spells like the DRKs absorb spells, for example.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2009-06-18 13:20:10
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Aravol said:
lol, only thing NIN needs is maybe a little more damage they can do, thats it. Soloing is so easy with NIN, they dont need anymore shadow help.
As far as another tank class. THats not a bad idea. True more jobs can tank but you arent going to invite, for the most part, anything other than a NIN or PLD.
Maybe a Tank that dabbles in Black Magic, instead of White magic like the PLD.
They could also give it JOB only spells like the DRKs absorb spells, for example.


They do have that, its called a Dark Knight. It has access to heavy armor, and it has many hate holding tools. It is basically the dark version of a PLD.

Useful tools:
Dread Spikes
Stun
Weapon Bash
Drain
Drain II
Aspir
Absorb - ___________
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By Pandemonium.Aravol 2009-06-18 13:23:11
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But DRK doesnt have really any good tank gear compared to PLD to main tank.
i dont think DRK is made to tank really.
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By Pandemonium.Aravol 2009-06-18 13:25:41
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Btw, im a 75 DRK and there is no Armor available to even compare DRK to PLD in tanking.
I wish it were so but there needs to be a job thats not a Black magic DD, but a BLM tank.
DRKs with "im a tank" comments wont get any invites..lol
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By Ramuh.Thunderz 2009-06-18 13:28:59
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you forgot DRK have a job trait that causes instant death I think its called /emo :p

also DRK is the last job I want tanking a IT mob

Nightfyre said:
Vagnagun said:
A new tank class!!
only two to choose from.

No. Numerous jobs make effective tanks at certain levels, the fact that the player base has a collective one-track mind is not SE's problem. Beyond PLD and NIN I've tanked EXP parties as WAR and BLU and been in parties with SAM and DNC tanks. I've seen DRK/NIN tank and been in parties where the RNG tanked the back half of a mob because they were such strong DD. Nobody died; in fact nobody even complained. RDM/NIN at endgame, MNK can tank early on and 74+. We have tanks in spades already.


I hate when people try to use this

plz try to tank birds with warrior, sam, etc etc at lvl 54

PLZ do and send me a vid

last time a war tried this he got face raped by the bird and it wasn't pretty

merit pts don't count as actual tanking because the mob survives what? 10~15sec

Only 2 jobs can really Tank an IT+ mob and again its PLD or NIN (being PT or endgame and this isn't about solo'ing but actually holding hate)

So again we only have 2 tanks and when none of them are seeking no PT for you (samething when they dont show up in Endgame event! no dyna for you)
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2009-06-18 13:31:13
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so basically, you are asking for another job just like DRK that can tank instead of DD?

give DRK more tanking armor options (and maybe higher tier nukes), and your wish is granted

side note: why does DRK have the second highest elemental and the lowest tiers?
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By Pandemonium.Aravol 2009-06-18 13:32:12
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agreed
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-06-18 13:34:14
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The solution is clearly to make DDs less appealing and tank jobs more fun D:

That way, everyone won't be lolSam and never be a support/tank job!
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By Pandemonium.Aravol 2009-06-18 13:34:51
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Not really asking for a DRK that can tank. But a Pally type with Black Magic options insteadof white magic.
When i played Everquest, they had a Pally tank, War tank,and a Deathknight tank who specialized in Black magic, was really fun.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2009-06-18 13:36:57
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*cough*

what is the difference between a "Deathknight tank" and a defensivly geared DRK?
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-06-18 13:39:18
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Simple: Drk will die reguardless.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2009-06-18 13:40:20
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thanks for the stunning insight and indepth explanation, that was really helpful
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-06-18 13:41:37
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And so was that useless post responding to my obvious troll.
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By Pandemonium.Aravol 2009-06-18 13:42:46
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LOL, you cannot properly gear a DRK and unless you have played both characters you wouldnt understand. The Deathknight was a Tank who could take damage. A drk is not.
You are wanting to compare 2 totally different jobs.
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By Pandemonium.Aravol 2009-06-18 13:44:00
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LOL, dont get irritated. Imjust trying to explain. I have experience in both jobs from different games.
Again, NO GEAR FOR DRK TO TANK with..lol
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By Ramuh.Thunderz 2009-06-18 13:45:41
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Haseyo said:
And so was that useless post responding to my obvious troll.


<3!

get back in the coffer!

Thoraeon said:
*cough*

what is the difference between a "Deathknight tank" and a defensivly geared DRK?


DRK would break the game if it could tank the freiking guy hits for 100~ + every hit and has HVY hitting ws and lets not forget his insane job abilitys that boost his dmg

you would need another job based on DRK magic if you didn't want to break the game
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-06-18 13:46:29
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Exactly. Defense is so obsolete when tanking certain things. Why can Plds tank so well? Shield. A Drk with a shield is still suck. It's futile. Drk is not a tank in any way/shape/form.

Let a Pld tank with a GS. And lol.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2009-06-18 13:50:55
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few things to point out:
Iron Ram Set
Valhalla Set
(If you are concerned with defensive gear)

DRK/NIN can hold hate well/stay alive

more of an end-game tank than a exp tank

I don't see a reason to add another job virtually identical to DRK but with a more defensive purpose, if you really want, let it wear Adaman and Koenig. (or a DRK only varient)
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-06-18 14:53:03
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Thunderz said:
you forgot DRK have a job trait that causes instant death I think its called /emo :p

also DRK is the last job I want tanking a IT mob

I hate when people try to use this

plz try to tank birds with warrior, sam, etc etc at lvl 54

PLZ do and send me a vid

last time a war tried this he got face raped by the bird and it wasn't pretty

merit pts don't count as actual tanking because the mob survives what? 10~15sec

Only 2 jobs can really Tank an IT+ mob and again its PLD or NIN (being PT or endgame and this isn't about solo'ing but actually holding hate)

So again we only have 2 tanks and when none of them are seeking no PT for you (samething when they dont show up in Endgame event! no dyna for you)


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I never said those jobs could tank at all levels, only specific levels and situations. ***is situational.
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By Ramuh.Vagnagun 2009-06-18 16:36:56
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@_@ Lol DRK post:

i have tanked on drk/nin.. evasion set up, SH, o hat, af legs, evasion accessories absorb - agl acc and dex up moslty at all times rendering the mob a /fail.. but when you do get hit... because of DRK basic defense before you break it down into gear, it kinda sux.

most jobs can tank. yea
a DRG can main heal.
but it's not always the best. PlD owns as tank, NIN too... but..
everyone else just "can"
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By Bismarck.Alana 2009-06-18 21:41:00
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As a rdm i rly wanted En light and En Dark instead of those tier 2 crap

compsoier or w/e its called is nice and no need to take it off
the penalty on recast isd insignificant

We dont need much more we alrdy awesome and beautiful... and amazing ..and ..sexy while whm and blm are just kinda cool
i dont think RDMs need anything to boost nukes or healing or else blms and whm would become useless XD
but some DD solo spells/abilitys would be neat
like En Light and En Dark
which is fair
id love refresh 2 but thats not fair lol

For the LoLz
Merton or Quasar for RDM

Ultima or meteor for BLMs

Holly 2 for PLD

woot WHM finaly got Esna

DRG 2hrs should turn the pet into a wyrm for 20 sec
BSTs should get a permanent pet u could grow it as u like and call itwhen u want...ure a beast master gdi
still been able to use jugs and charm mobs since the pet u grew is ur 2 hrs
bah i would change a lot of stuff if i could XD
im tired of typing...

a better looking and stronger WS for MNK cuz PUP mythic WS pwns MNKs WSNM

some new gear whit no stats but slots to put gems that gives the stats
hard events to get the gear impossibe events to get the gems
and the panel like PUP attachment panel
to place stats in the gear
thats all i can think off atm...
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By Ramuh.Vagnagun 2009-06-20 13:33:35
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Alana said:

some new gear whit no stats but slots to put gems that gives the stats
hard events to get the gear impossibe events to get the gems
and the panel like PUP attachment panel
to place stats in the gear
thats all i can think off atm...


fuk yea Diablo style,
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By Garuda.Glaciont 2009-06-24 22:43:23
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I'm not trying to make you feel bad or anything but uh...

Surge said:

Warrior: The old tank now turned massive DD ummm ya i decent update would help this job a bit.


A decent update? They are a massive DD job you want a decent update for them?

..Are you on crack sir??!

Surge said:


Spells: i would like to see Whm with more merited spells like Town teles would be sorta nice. Nin's should get Utu San os something new since they really need it.


... Again... ARE YOU ON CRACK SIIIIRR?? Why on earth would you want to merit town tele spells? I cannot figure out any logical means of thinking how you deducted that

Surge said:


Random things: Lol a new craft would be awesome or like a menu showing you the % on the directions and HQ and such.



god damn, you are on crack... first off SE wouldn't give out their secrets about crystal direction and ***that fills the forums and confuses the crafters. Second, what craft in the world would you introduce into ffxi? It pretty much already covers everything, and it'd be impossible to introduce into the system at this point.

You know what IIII THINK? YOUR ON CRACK!

THIS IS MADNESS!!!... madness?
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By Fairy.Winterlight 2009-06-24 23:40:59
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I want a job called BEASTMAN where you can play as a beastman mob in any zone where beastmen are normally found.

The number of BEASTMAN PCs allowed in one zone is limited to a relatively small number.

Your sole Job Ability is Acquire Job which replicates all the abilities of one of your existing jobs (no subjobs)

Your primary Job Trait is Appear Helpless where you con EP to any player character.

Then you pwn them when they pull you...

It would definitely add excitement to leveling... :)
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By Unicorn.Motokosun 2009-06-24 23:46:10
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Ninja, enough said.
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