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Jobs that needs updates....
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2838
By Shiva.Artemicion 2009-06-14 12:38:15
Xxnumbertwoxx said: Regain Samba for DNC? That would be so ridiculously awesome. Or even better, Drain-TP Samba. Bye bye mob WS's ever again lol
Terribly broken, but OMFG would it be sick, and I KNOW they'd be taking DNC's EVERYWHERE lol I want this for the simple sake of having SAM & DRK stop being the bandwagon job to being cool. God damn it I want my job back.
Server: Ifrit
Game: FFXI
Posts: 24692
By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-06-14 12:56:57
I'm still gonna stick to PUP having access to gear other than mage gear.
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 Ramuh.Dasva
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 40469
By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-06-14 13:00:24
Kungfuhustle said: I'm still gonna stick to PUP having access to gear other than mage gear. It's called Usukane... you should get it. There af and relic is pretty sweet too
Server: Ifrit
Game: FFXI
Posts: 24692
By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-06-14 13:04:52
Dasva said: Kungfuhustle said: I'm still gonna stick to PUP having access to gear other than mage gear. It's called Usukane... you should get it. There af and relic is pretty sweet too ok, buyable gear, I know I can get rare/ex and AF gear blah blah blah.
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Server: Hades
Game: FFXI
Posts: 513
By Hades.Jacinda 2009-06-14 13:21:07
Give Black Mages tp based on magic, not a weapon since they rarely ever melee. On that note, perhaps a magic weaponskill like Meteor or Ultima (toned down, of course)
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 11681
By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-06-14 13:31:53
Jacinda said: Give Black Mages tp based on magic, not a weapon since they rarely ever melee. On that note, perhaps a magic weaponskill like Meteor or Ultima (toned down, of course) Something like this?
Ramuh.Dasva
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 40469
By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-06-14 13:40:52
Nightfyre said: Jacinda said: Give Black Mages tp based on magic, not a weapon since they rarely ever melee. On that note, perhaps a magic weaponskill like Meteor or Ultima (toned down, of course) Something like this?Well from what I scanned sounded more like getting tp from using magic... kinda like the wyrm from KSNM99. Which would be kinda cool if I stuck too 1 spell I guess lol. The special mtp to be used for help on your spells was kinda cool too
Server: Hades
Game: FFXI
Posts: 513
By Hades.Jacinda 2009-06-14 13:50:08
Yeah, something like that. Other than Spirit Taker, the weaponskills seems rather useless. Even with ST, you still have to melee, which is needlessly putting a blm in a position that they don't need to be in.
Server: Fairy
Game: FFXI
Posts: 707
By Fairy.Azulmagia 2009-06-14 13:55:16
I still say a universal sword WS that doesn't suck would be nice.
Or at least power up Expiacion and Death Blossom.
Ramuh.Dasva
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 40469
By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-06-14 13:57:56
Azulmagia said: I still say a universal sword WS that doesn't suck would be nice.
Or at least power up Expiacion and Death Blossom. ... Expiacion is pretty good. Besides 1 hand ws tend to suck unless there multihit mostly cause of 1 hand weapon dmg ratings.
 Ramuh.Alphir
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 69
By Ramuh.Alphir 2009-06-14 15:46:42
Miemo said: - Make Mijin Gakure a 20 min ability.
- Give Ninja Throwing WS.
- Give Ninja some new crappy 2 hour that wont break the game (read throw 15 shuriken at a time or something). That is all. 20 min Mijin (warp)? yeah right lol! What Mijin needs is major dmg. Think about it, if you were to sacrafice your life to take down a mob, you are sure as hell gonna take it down with you. I know I would! Mijin more damage please. Nin does need more throwing options. The ammo they get now above lvl 18 is rediculously expensive. Give us more shuriken type ammo recipes, AND a throwing WS.
Server: Garuda
Game: FFXI
Posts: 464
By Garuda.Feifongwong 2009-06-14 17:08:52
Alphir said: Miemo said: - Make Mijin Gakure a 20 min ability.
- Give Ninja Throwing WS.
- Give Ninja some new crappy 2 hour that wont break the game (read throw 15 shuriken at a time or something). That is all. 20 min Mijin (warp)? yeah right lol! What Mijin needs is major dmg. Think about it, if you were to sacrafice your life to take down a mob, you are sure as hell gonna take it down with you. I know I would! Mijin more damage please. Nin does need more throwing options. The ammo they get now above lvl 18 is rediculously expensive. Give us more shuriken type ammo recipes, AND a throwing WS. YES!! NIN THROWING WS!!!
Server: Fairy
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5645
By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-06-14 18:11:04
Alphir said: What Mijin needs is major dmg. Think about it, if you were to sacrafice your life to take down a mob, you are sure as hell gonna take it down with you. Yeah, agreed. If it's a 2HR it should be pretty sick damage... And throwing weaponskills just like other melee skills, according to skill level {Yes, please}
Ramuh.Dasva
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 40469
By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-06-14 18:16:05
Xxnumbertwoxx said: Alphir said: What Mijin needs is major dmg. Think about it, if you were to sacrafice your life to take down a mob, you are sure as hell gonna take it down with you. Yeah, agreed. If it's a 2HR it should be pretty sick damage... What like azure lore...?
Server: Fairy
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5645
By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-06-14 18:17:56
Dasva said: Xxnumbertwoxx said: Alphir said: What Mijin needs is major dmg. Think about it, if you were to sacrafice your life to take down a mob, you are sure as hell gonna take it down with you. Yeah, agreed. If it's a 2HR it should be pretty sick damage... What like azure lore...? TBH I've never really seen the BLU 2HR but if it's shitty then yeah, it deserves an update, too...
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 11681
By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-06-14 18:30:11
You've never seen it because it's incredibly mediocre. It'll add a little bit of damage to all spells because it doubles the modifiers on them, but that's not sufficient to justify its role as the BLU 2hr. It also gives a 350% TP modifier to all spells if Chain Affinity is used, but that's not as great as it sounds... only a handful of spells are "Damage varies with TP". Outside of epeen damage on SACA Cannonball it's hardly ever used.
Ramuh.Dasva
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 40469
By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-06-14 18:31:54
I use it to zerg out like 3-4 spells. Part of it is not only the few spells it helps but its duration being so low
Server: Alexander
Game: FFXI
Posts: 581
By Alexander.Ultrarichard 2009-06-14 18:49:33
Xxnumbertwoxx said: Yeah, agreed. If it's a 2HR it should be pretty sick damage... It's damage should be based on how low your health is, not how high. if your gunna use it to finish off a mob, it's because your dying and wanna go for the kill. theres nothing more disappointing than hoping to finish a mob and ending up doing like 100 damage.. Edit: i had an interesting idea for bst/pup/drg. they should have a .."friendship" level. something similar to Fellows. if you constantly have your pets killed/leaving them at low health, they start to dislike you, and may not obey. this would provide those jobs with a challenge not just to solo, but to ensure their pets are happy, via reward and spirit link, and whatever pups have.. (incase of confusion)like BST jugs wouldnt be based per jug used, but on the pet type.
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6473
By Odin.Blazza 2009-06-14 20:24:45
Ultrarichard said: Xxnumbertwoxx said: Yeah, agreed. If it's a 2HR it should be pretty sick damage... It's damage should be based on how low your health is, not how high. if your gunna use it to finish off a mob, it's because your dying and wanna go for the kill. theres nothing more disappointing than hoping to finish a mob and ending up doing like 100 damage.. I like this idea a lot actually, as well as increasing the overall damage and decreasing the resistance rate, having the damage calculated based on how much HP you are missing rather than how much HP you have would be awesome. I can see it now, nin's start macro-ing in their 2-hour with a HP build and try and get as close to 0 as they can without dying first. It could add potential for massive damage, but at great risk, as trying to get low HP you risk yourself dying before getting to use your 2-hour. Awesome.
 Ramuh.Miemo
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1098
By Ramuh.Miemo 2009-06-15 04:19:41
Blazza said:
I like this idea a lot actually, as well as increasing the overall damage and decreasing the resistance rate, having the damage calculated based on how much HP you are missing rather than how much HP you have would be awesome. I can see it now, nin's start macro-ing in their 2-hour with a HP build and try and get as close to 0 as they can without dying first. It could add potential for massive damage, but at great risk, as trying to get low HP you risk yourself dying before getting to use your 2-hour. Awesome.
So basically you could have 1 whm and a ***load of ninjas using poisonpots - prepping for Kirin. Pop him and make all Ninjas go Booooooom! Kirin go down inside 5 seconds o.o!!!!!!
Midgardsormr.Darkfire
Server: Midgardsormr
Game: FFXI
Posts: 55
By Midgardsormr.Darkfire 2009-06-15 06:34:26
Miemo said:
So basically you could have 1 whm and a ***load of ninjas using poisonpots - prepping for Kirin. Pop him and make all Ninjas go Booooooom!
Kirin go down inside 5 seconds o.o!!!!!!
So, then whats the whm there for? :P
Ramuh.Miemo
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1098
By Ramuh.Miemo 2009-06-15 06:41:17
Darkfire said: Miemo said:
So basically you could have 1 whm and a ***load of ninjas using poisonpots - prepping for Kirin. Pop him and make all Ninjas go Booooooom!
Kirin go down inside 5 seconds o.o!!!!!!
So, then whats the whm there for? :P To poisona em all at 1% hp. duuuuuh!
Server: Alexander
Game: FFXI
Posts: 581
By Alexander.Ultrarichard 2009-06-15 07:10:27
Miemo said:
So basically you could have 1 whm and a ***load of ninjas using poisonpots - prepping for Kirin. Pop him and make all Ninjas go Booooooom!
Kirin go down inside 5 seconds o.o!!!!!!
How is that different from having the ninja's /mnk with a mnk in the party for mantra and doing it at 100% lol? did nobody like my bst/pup/drg idea? D:
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 12
By Ramuh.Awangarda 2009-06-15 07:16:58
Richard, yes, please gimp DRGs even further and make life more and more miserable in this game. Unless you say benefits of your proposition would be rather hefty, then yes - it has some potential in my opinion.
Server: Alexander
Game: FFXI
Posts: 581
By Alexander.Ultrarichard 2009-06-15 07:21:03
Awangarda said: Richard, yes, please gimp DRGs even further and make life more and more miserable in this game. Unless you say benefits of your proposition would be rather hefty, then yes - it has some potential in my opinion. whoops lol, it was really early morning and i wasnt paying attention. having higher "friendship" could also increase damage/potency of sic moves and breathes and such. maybe having higher jug pet friendship could allow you a choice in TP moves (as i hear bst's complaining about this regularly) or decrease in overload chance or something of that nature. i have never even played any of these jobs, i just thought it'd be an interesting idea.
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6473
By Odin.Blazza 2009-06-15 08:26:20
With the inclusion of the positive effects it seems like a better idea. Before that post it was just like torturing bst's for fun.
Unfortunately though, it's nigh on impossible for bst's to even play without doing exactly what you said lol.
Server: Fairy
Game: FFXI
Posts: 263
By Fairy.Lethewaters 2009-06-15 17:47:21
Ultrarichard said:
i had an interesting idea for bst/pup/drg. they should have a .."friendship" level. something similar to Fellows. if you constantly have your pets killed/leaving them at low health, they start to dislike you, and may not obey. this would provide those jobs with a challenge not just to solo, but to ensure their pets are happy, via reward and spirit link, and whatever pups have..
(incase of confusion)like BST jugs wouldnt be based per jug used, but on the pet type.
Kinda an interesting idea. Only drawback is when I 2hr @ 200hp on DRG tanking (I dont think there is one job I havent tanked with yet...). What happens next? My Wyvern refuses to come out cause he saved my *** and the PT's? Lethewaters: /ja "Call Wyvern" Ember refuses to come out. Lethewaters: WTF?!?
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 11681
By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-06-15 17:50:42
Ultrarichard said: Miemo said:
So basically you could have 1 whm and a ***load of ninjas using poisonpots - prepping for Kirin. Pop him and make all Ninjas go Booooooom!
Kirin go down inside 5 seconds o.o!!!!!!
How is that different from having the ninja's /mnk with a mnk in the party for mantra and doing it at 100% lol? did nobody like my bst/pup/drg idea? D: Given that a large part of BST soloing involves throwing pets at a mob... no, not really. Even with jug pets there are times when it's better to let it die and call out a new one. The complications involving DRG's 2hr have already been raised, and PUP has enough incentive to keep their auto alive as is.
Odin.Pepei
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1
By Odin.Pepei 2009-06-15 19:11:49
2hrs should become 1 hrs.
Ok i have been playing for three years now and IMO i would like to see the following.
Ninja: A few new job abilities and traits. Heck maybe a spell to get hate better.
Blue Mage: A more indacation on how to learn spells.
Summoner: More Perp cost - gear. Granted the new update for them was awesome i would like to see there per tick cost go down more.
Warrior: The old tank now turned massive DD ummm ya i decent update would help this job a bit.
Merits: I would like to see more of the traits be able to be merited like conserv Mp and Magic ATK bonus to be examples. Heck maybe lower the cost of the Call wyvern ability.
Spells: i would like to see Whm with more merited spells like Town teles would be sorta nice. Nin's should get Utu San os something new since they really need it.
Random things: Lol a new craft would be awesome or like a menu showing you the % on the directions and HQ and such.
I no this thread is pretty long and maybe rediculas but this is whay i think SE should update.
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