Jobs That Needs Updates....

I'll admit I'm not crazy about full on PvP, but a duel system, with no penalties for KO, would be an awesome way to pass time waiting for events and such ^^

And not the goofy way FFXI does it now, I mean straight up 1v1 anywhere, anytime. Be a good way to solve camp disputes and such, too, if people were honorable about it...

Go back to buying accounts Feiwong. Lol

Besides how would Utsusemi:San not break the game? You shouldn't ever get hit with Ichi and Ni as it is.

Yes we are ^^ Suicidal too XD Seriously though, Manafont and Chainspell all wrapped up in one delicious deadly package... /drool

@Lordgenbu: Fail, Feiwong said Utsu: San would be gamebreaking. lrn2read

Monks use to counter tank with a good set up, but with Aht Urghan it became a thing of the past, RIP MNK KRT PTs.

Also, would it be too much trouble to give Ninja kurayami: ni? I don't even care if it isn't much more effective than the ichi spell, I just want a faster casting Kuyrayami.

@Das, can you stop bitching about the latest RDM update? Actually read the thread and look how many jobs really are in need of an update, and compare it to how much RDM didn't need an update at all. Now take a closer look at the update, and think about what uses you COULD get out of it, instead of what uses you WISH you could get out of it. Go and grab yourself a ceremonial dagger, use all your new ***from the update and solo some mob with shitty tp moves.

1-War. Of the original 6, it hasnt gotten anything new. Time to update the original tank.

2-DRK or maybe RNG. It's been awhile since they've had anything new added.

Thats debatable. If it wasn't for refresh rdm wouldn't get xp pts endgame events or even be able to solo. I did look at the update. Like the only update rdm has gotten in what 5+ years which makes it funny you should term it latest. When you can outdo a lvl2 spell with a lvl 1 one easy yeah then it is very fail. Also the whole point of soloing with ceremonial daggers is to not deal any melee dmg thereby not giving mob any tp. Obviously /nin for shadows therefor dualweild plus enspell1>>enspell2. And I would hardly call 1 line of useless spells and 1 decetn ja ALL that new ***. It's a slap in the face attempt to deliver updates that have had been being promised forever. I've yet to see a spell that will move rdm to the front lines like promised... how would you feel if blu didnt get any updates for years huh!?! And then when they do they give you complete crap? Fine hate on a good rdms ability to solo all you want. Give us something that is only useful in pt then. Hell make composure work for all buffs just not self buffs screwing up the cycle

Das: RDM's do have refresh, they can solo and they are wanted for damn near every situation, what more do you want? You missed my point about them not needing an update while other jobs really do. Even with all the new jobs and other jobs getting updates over rdm, they're still one of the highest demand jobs in the game, yet you're complaining. Blu has a ***2-hour that needs and update, but it's a damn good all-rounded job without it, so it doesn't NEED an update and it wouldn't bother me if we never get one.

I understand about you being disappointed that the only update you've gotten in years wasn't the game breaking update that you were hoping to be able to solo AV because of, but let's face it, there have been worse, and at least you didn't get nerfed.

Also, since when does going /nin mean you can't use sword (or dagger) and shield?

I think DNC needs a lot of help. It can solo, but not as well as RDM... and it's a great healer... but only for the party the DNC is in. What I'd really like is some update that would make DNC helpful in an endgame situation. Anyway, these are a few things I personally think DNC should get, maybe not all of them but a few would be nice..

Better gear choices...

Better weapon choices, but I can see why SE's trying to limit our TPing... I'd still love a multi-hit weapon that wasn't just a Joyeuse, though...

Being able to cure outside of the DNCs immediate party (even if it's alliance only).

Haste Samba being alliance wide (would be over-powered, but people would start bringing DNC to things!).

Maybe a Divine Waltz II...

Maybe put Healing Waltz into another JA category...

Change the look of the AF to make the guys look less silly. <.<;

Give DNC mijin gakureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

They should give BRD's a TP Regen song... That'd be awesome.

This right here, is the sexiest thing said in the entire thread!
GIVE SAM MOA TP!!!

I know isnt it...

That'd be broken.

It doesnt have to be much... Maybe make it a merit song? Like 1-3/5 is 1tp regen and 4/5 is 2 tp regen, and 5/5 is 3.

Why doesnt NIN have Jubaku: Ni? lol, I mean Maat uses it... mobs use it.. wtf? we get our last spell at like 48 Kurayami: Ni.

JA would be cool, like maybe something Eva boost for Pt and then Eva boost and Atk - for self, kinda like Warcry and Berserk.

I like the Samba for alliance and being able to heal alliance would be awesome.

A+ Katana for NIN please, no other job can use it so yea, I guess same w/ Ninjutsu.

SAM should get better archery and maybe enough to be able to get and use the WSNM one OR leave skill as is and let them use archery WS w/o /rng...

and then THF should either get more marksmanship or be able to use the WS w/o /rng most would stick to the dagger/Gkt WS's but still be a fun +.

I think every skill should have an A+ somewhere like ranges katana etc.

Edit**

I agree TP Regain song would be broken.

I think I've already stated alot of things. I want but for redundancy lets start with anything more then mildy useful or plain crap. Just a crazy thought but perhaps actually making the job with the highest enhancing magic the best at it? Making enspell2 actually worth using. Having composures buffs work longer on other people too or getting rid of that lame *** penalty when it's not doing anything. Get the old higher swd skill back maybe. Maybe some cool new debuffs to play with I guess. I mean it is kinda sad how many more blu gets.


Frankly getting no update would've been better in some ways. At least I'd still have hope of something good. Forget gamebreaking update. Just give me something comparable to any of the good updates other jobs have gotten. I can't think of a positive update any job has gotten that was worse. And when you consider how we get nerfed almost as much as nin used to... You clearly have no concept of rdm soloing. It hours of timing all your spells to keep yourself alive and deal rediculously low dmg to the mob. Even mild auto-regen often makes things impossible or rediculously longer for us. Not to mention where often 1 mistake in these long fights or some bad luck can and often will end things. If I had blood/crimson cuisse I'd take blu to solo anything that didn't couldn't outrun me with them on. Why cause blu can get in there zerg for alot more dmg most the time stun lock at least for awhile and run out for about the same mp as 1 tier3 nuke. Not to mention disservement's DOT is the same as fully meritted bio3+poison2. And the ability to sleep undeed... assuming we could survive AV with some super duper update it would take no ***days if not weeks to solo assuming we could get the regen under control. Or that you generally need really pimp enfeebling gear to pull the hard kites off. You know who else can solo alot of the stuff rdm can at least stuff that don't run uber fast with really pimp gear? Just about anyone with ranged or DOT dmg that can out run the mob or sleep it. I knew a rng that solod stuff that I'm not sure I can do with my gear.


Theres 3 reasons that rdms melee over kiting or nuke sleeping.
1. You can't afford to give the mob any tp or you will wipe when it uses a move...in this case you can't afford to take hits either so not dualweilding low delay/dmg daggers will just slow down an already rediculously slow solo.
2. Just for grins
3. You can't kite or sleep/nuke either cause you can't land them or time limits either way your either gonna wanna dualweild for speed or if you need a shield to help survivablity use a joytoy.
Either way enspell1 wins.
While were at it give the only job that has been neglected and nerfed more some love too. But please no Tier3 debuffs or utsesmi

Hate to say it, but I agree with the others.
AoE Regain would be ridiculous.

Regain song + Samurai Roll = TP Spamga. Mobs wouldn't stand a chance ><;

It would however get rid of the reliance of sam and blm/sch dmg onry for HNMs you can't really afford to melee unless you have tons of healing support.

I know nothing and never will know anything about the HNM scene.

Well most of them with blink tanking you can make there melee hits manageable and most don't have regain... what really makes most them hard or what causes failure/wipes is the tp moves. Which makes minimizing tp you give them very important especially with low numbers. So spike dmg is highly preferred. It can often make the difference of wiping with 18 vs winning fairly easy with 8-9 on some mobs

I assume they will gimp more stuff for us to move to FF14

and add some HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE :o

Make GM a questable job...

In before every 2hander job constructing true 5-hit builds around having Regain Samba. Other jobs would benefit too, but holy ***TP spam >.<

I can't see this being anything but overpowered.

Another quickie. I'd like to see WARs get a faster way to recover HP. Like a trait similar to clear mind but works on HP instead of MP. Also a JA to help boost HP similar to Chakra would be nice. Since you'd think a Warrior would have some kind of first aid knowledge >.>

Hmmm and just what would merit 2-3 do?

Regain Samba for DNC? That would be so ridiculously awesome. Or even better, Drain-TP Samba. Bye bye mob WS's ever again lol

Terribly broken, but OMFG would it be sick, and I KNOW they'd be taking DNC's EVERYWHERE lol

- Make Mijin Gakure a 20 min ability.
- Give Ninja Throwing WS.
- Give Ninja some new crappy 2 hour that wont break the game (read throw 15 shuriken at a time or something). That is all.