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 Pandemonium.Eternaltriumph
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By Pandemonium.Eternaltriumph 2009-07-07 12:05:35
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BLU imo is kinda like RDM; just instead of DoT it's hardass spike. NO job can do spike damage like BLU can every 3 minutes. SAM can every 2 hours, but yeah. BLU is dependant on spells to excell in damage. Giving them extra hit weaponry would defeat the purpose BLU was intended to have. BLU is actually one of the jobs I refuse to believe needs any kind of update. It's already powerful as ***, but it's flaw is when it runs out of MP, it's a gimp DD. But good BLUs never run out of MP unless it's a race against who dies quicker...you or the mob. ;)
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By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-07-07 12:22:26
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Eternaltriumph said:
It's already powerful as ***, but it's flaw is when it runs out of MP, it's a gimp DD.


I wouldn't call that a flaw...besides, BLU is uber enough in the fact that it can do all damage types with it's spells ^^

If only learning spells wasn't such a *** at times...

inb4 "OMG IT'S SO EASY I DID ALL MY SPELLS IN 15 MINUTES!!!!!1!!!!!1" (Took me 3 hours just to get Pollen >.<)
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By Fairy.Tbest 2009-07-07 12:30:00
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lol.... You need to get a lvl 75 Smn to help you learn spells. >.>

Round up 10+ mobs, use Relic Staff, and spam Diaga/Banishga.
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By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-07-07 12:39:24
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Tbest said:
lol.... You need to get a lvl 75 Smn to help you learn spells. >.>

Round up 10+ mobs, use Relic Staff, and spam Diaga/Banishga.


Yeah...I gave up on it honestly. Too many other jobs on my TO DO list, like finishing up SCH, working on RDM, and maybe DRK and/or SAM...

TBH, I'm just not cut out for it LOL
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By Unicorn.Excesspain 2009-07-07 12:40:30
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Tbest said:
lol.... You need to get a lvl 75 Smn to help you learn spells. >.>

Round up 10+ mobs, use Relic Staff, and spam Diaga/Banishga.

Because there are so many of those floating around?
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By Pandemonium.Eternaltriumph 2009-07-07 12:56:03
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He meant the literal relic staff. The one with 999 delay. xD Does little damage to AoE and feed mobs more TP.
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By Valefor.Lilbusta 2009-07-07 14:38:16
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BLM is being pushed out the door by SCH. Truthfully we can either save the day or hinder the pt because we need refresh, conserve MP and control MP during fights. I'd like us BLMs to at least have a spell that will let us do a HP drain, but convert dmg to MP to help mitigate the MP problem. Majority of the mobs the "normal" pt is lvling off of do not have MP so Aspir is useless.
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By Caitsith.Surge 2009-07-14 04:14:46
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Ok there it two things in why BLM wouldnt get a update is because blm/sch would do everything that an update would do.

And they wouldnt give us any spells that would break the game which is ok but something is good.

I think they need to change the BCNM in the past, you know when the nation owns the beastmen place. In caitsith the only one that has ever owned there area is sandy (and there cheap a$$ npc madness) So im hoping they change that to a once a week thing like ENMs.
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By Odin.Blazza 2009-07-14 04:20:09
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Eternaltriumph said:
BLU imo is kinda like RDM; just instead of DoT it's hardass spike. NO job can do spike damage like BLU can every 3 minutes. SAM can every 2 hours, but yeah. BLU is dependant on spells to excell in damage. Giving them extra hit weaponry would defeat the purpose BLU was intended to have. BLU is actually one of the jobs I refuse to believe needs any kind of update. It's already powerful as ***, but it's flaw is when it runs out of MP, it's a gimp DD. But good BLUs never run out of MP unless it's a race against who dies quicker...you or the mob. ;)

This guy knows blu well :o
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By Kujata.Segaia 2009-07-14 05:18:10
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Dont talk about good jobs we already have. Let's face it: PUP needs an update, imo not in the magic way, but more in the melee way. Automaton magic is fine, a lot BLMs already cried but hey PUP rly needs an update.

Automaton:
Seperate global casttimers for enfeebling, elemental magic, healing.
Better Defense, because it's a joke on 75
More ways of Healing our automaton than with a shitty Regen and Role Reversal at level 75 (merit-JA)
More Attachements to prevent damage
Lessened Recast on Activate or make the Automaton-summon with charges (2 would be enoug, hey it's a robot... you always have more than one >.>)
Eventually more spells (Haste etc., some bufflike things) but thats more a personal dream

Master:
Since swapping seems to be the "PUPs thing", because it can already do it with HP and enmity, i think it would be a good idea doing a kind of TP-swap. At all an ability like DRGs wyvern heal would be good, with the right recast.

Oh yea.. and btw.. give the SMNs out there their new avatars SE, I just looked outside and saw burning fences and ppl shouting with forks in their hands "Weeee gona getz iou, givvus avatarz!!!!!".
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2009-07-14 07:40:07
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Xxnumbertwoxx said:
Eternaltriumph said:
It's already powerful as ***, but it's flaw is when it runs out of MP, it's a gimp DD.


I wouldn't call that a flaw...besides, BLU is uber enough in the fact that it can do all damage types with it's spells ^^

If only learning spells wasn't such a *** at times...

inb4 "OMG IT'S SO EASY I DID ALL MY SPELLS IN 15 MINUTES!!!!!1!!!!!1" (Took me 3 hours just to get Pollen >.<)


6 for {Healing Breeze} oh...and 2 deaths
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-07-14 07:52:14
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10 hours for Metallic Body! I went from Lv5 to Lv12 in East Ron just trying to get it. This was before the Easy Prey/Decent Challange exp update, so like 30 exp a kill. c.c
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By Hades.Kvazz 2009-07-14 08:14:04
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Nombly said:
Hey, in the mean times...

Give warrior a native hasso and meditate effect while subbing nin.
Give whm raisega 3.
Give monk goku style punching haste even without hundred fists.
Give Blm doublecast and One mp cost.
Make thf able to steal tradable abjurations!
Give pld a provoke of it's own with a 10 second timer.
give drk defense, we all know they're tanks, they even have knight in their name, amirite?
give bst charmga!
give brd tier 3 haste songs and tier 5 minuet.
give rng a f*cking bazooka.
give sam zerk and make hagun a 2-3 hit like soboro :O
give nin.. wait you just did...
Give drgs Fafnir as a pet ^^
give smns a refreshga bloodpact.
give blus ridill and joy toy.
give pup dmg.
cor... PIRATE HOOK YO. ARRR
give dnc stripper clothing and drain tp dances.
give sch blm -agas :D

Seriously though, Rdm can solo half the stuff in this game already, be happy with what you have.


*** yeah! I´m with this one all the way
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By Sylph.Lalo 2009-07-14 09:42:20
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Give rdms a 15mp/tick refresh and regen rate and a higher enhanancing magic skill along phalanx 3 and more -dmg gear. oh and while i'm dreaming i want rdm to be able to wear aegis.

I can dream, right?
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By Cerberus.Savannah 2009-07-14 09:44:56
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Lilbusta said:
BLM is being pushed out the door by SCH. Truthfully we can either save the day or hinder the pt because we need refresh, conserve MP and control MP during fights. I'd like us BLMs to at least have a spell that will let us do a HP drain, but convert dmg to MP to help mitigate the MP problem. Majority of the mobs the "normal" pt is lvling off of do not have MP so Aspir is useless.


BLM DOESN'T NEED ANYTHING

period.
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By Garuda.Hypnotizd 2009-07-14 09:52:16
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Savannah said:
BLM DOESN'T NEED ANYTHING

period.
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By Fairy.Basilo 2009-07-14 09:53:46
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Savannah said:
Lilbusta said:
BLM is being pushed out the door by SCH. Truthfully we can either save the day or hinder the pt because we need refresh, conserve MP and control MP during fights. I'd like us BLMs to at least have a spell that will let us do a HP drain, but convert dmg to MP to help mitigate the MP problem. Majority of the mobs the "normal" pt is lvling off of do not have MP so Aspir is useless.


BLM DOESN'T NEED ANYTHING

period.


I second this, still havent had chance to do an exp race against a scholar at pudding camp which i was meaning to, but solo record atm is empress band dedication wearing in 8mins 20seconds. I know scholar will be hard pushed to beat this solo, I still believe a blm can drop a mob quicker 2 nukes and an aspir then get back to resting. A scholar will be doing 3-4 nukes, even with jas to cut cost of mp I cant see it being any quicker.

The same thinking applies to leveling blm 50-75 in that 1 bigger nuke to 1 shot mobs then rest get mp back, uses alot of mp maybe vs a sch but the battle is quick. Ive seen sch solo pets doesnt appear to be any quicker than a blm am1 method.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-07-14 09:55:13
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That's why Blm isn't getting an update - because it's strong enough as it is. So it isn't party friendly, nor are other jobs. Everyone wants Pld/Sam/Rdm/Brd/Cor - that's it. Everything else is "*sigh* I -guess- we can invite a War or a Drk..."
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By Valefor.Lilbusta 2009-07-14 09:57:29
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My comment was in reference to some update to get BLM back into exp parties. There's nothing wrong with BLM soloing. I'm done pushing the BLM stuff since it's already been said and majority of the forum is done with the discussion.
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By Fairy.Basilo 2009-07-14 10:01:51
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Actually youre right tbh in a way, only way that springs to mind to resolve this problem is to make elemental dots stronger to the point it gives clear acc/dmg bonus to melee as if it were a weak bard song. Gravity as blm would assist melee in a pty reducing the mobs evasion thats obtained around lvl 42, if you were able to at least land this on lesser colibri consistently it could help a bit.
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By Bahamut.Etrayis 2009-07-14 10:09:40
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Haseyo said:
That's why Blm isn't getting an update - because it's strong enough as it is. So it isn't party friendly, nor are other jobs. Everyone wants Pld/Sam/Rdm/Brd/Cor - that's it. Everything else is "*sigh* I -guess- we can invite a War or a Drk..."

And the sooner people can accept this, the sooner we can move on and look at what really needs an update instead of "QQ my job doesn't get pt invites, fix it now!!!"
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By Fairy.Basilo 2009-07-14 10:12:46
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I dont think its QQ I think he has a point to some degree, and this is coming from a blm who never parties for exp and pefers solo, but recognises its not a favoured job when it comes to the level grind.
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By Bahamut.Etrayis 2009-07-14 10:17:00
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And for several reasons. I stated this a while ago, that just as not all people are qualified for all jobs, not all jobs are qualified for all types of parties. That's just life.
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By Lakshmi.Priestsan 2009-07-14 10:24:19
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just looking through the first 2 pages i see alot about thf and dual wield... honestly, if your subbin nin for dual wield, pu down your brady guide and come play in the real world. Even if they gave thf dual wield, id still sub nin.
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By Cerberus.Savannah 2009-07-14 10:26:18
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Etrayis said:
And for several reasons. I stated this a while ago, that just as not all people are qualified for all jobs, not all jobs are qualified for all types of parties. That's just life.


^Fact.

Besides, there's level sync. So if you're at a point where you stop getting parties, just make a level sync party. Can't really QQ over it anymore...
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By Unicorn.Excesspain 2009-07-14 10:31:07
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Priestsan said:
just looking through the first 2 pages i see alot about thf and dual wield... honestly, if your subbin nin for dual wield, pu down your brady guide and come play in the real world. Even if they gave thf dual wield, id still sub nin.

It's not subbing /nin for DW, it's more for being able to sub /war, /dr, maybe /sam for stuff where you need to plant hate or need the extra attack/STR to actually damage something with high DEF while DWing.
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By Fairy.Basilo 2009-07-14 10:38:39
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Savannah said:
Etrayis said:
And for several reasons. I stated this a while ago, that just as not all people are qualified for all jobs, not all jobs are qualified for all types of parties. That's just life.


^Fact.

Besides, there's level sync. So if you're at a point where you stop getting parties, just make a level sync party. Can't really QQ over it anymore...


I personally couldnt careless if blm got a booster to make it more pty friendly in the level grind, mine is 75 already, I dont think opinions from someone with only 37 blm are particularly valid. Your comparison of ppl being qualifed for jobs and jobs that qualify to certain parties is suggestive that you dont see blm getting invites to normal exp parties 54+ TOAU with melee in it.

I wouldnt be supprised if they added additional debuff effects to the 6 elemental dots to make them more useful to any melee a blm would be partying with. Wouldnt make the job anymore powerful solo and it would give a needed boost to the party invites blm recieve.
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By Cerberus.Savannah 2009-07-14 10:41:28
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Basilo said:
I dont think opinions from someone with only 37 blm are particularly valid.


Well my blm is 75 and I agree.

blm has enough...if ppl want to QQ about not getting in a party they should go lvl pld or brd.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-07-14 10:42:18
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Moar rdm updates!!! Um and not nerf ones
Savannah said:
Basilo said:
I dont think opinions from someone with only 37 blm are particularly valid.


Well my blm is 75 and I agree.

blm has enough...if ppl want to QQ about not getting in a party they should go lvl pld or brd.

Techniqually pretty much ever job had "enough" its about fair play and SE generally ignoring most mage jobs when it comes to new spells/jas/ and good equipment.
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By Fairy.Basilo 2009-07-14 10:44:45
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I was just trying to push lilbusta's idea a bit further was all

Etrayis said:
Haseyo said:
That's why Blm isn't getting an update - because it's strong enough as it is. So it isn't party friendly, nor are other jobs. Everyone wants Pld/Sam/Rdm/Brd/Cor - that's it. Everything else is "*sigh* I -guess- we can invite a War or a Drk..."

And the sooner people can accept this, the sooner we can move on and look at what really needs an update instead of "QQ my job doesn't get pt invites, fix it now!!!"


Because when I read this and try to think of what really needs an update blm being more melee pty friendly is quite high up the list of changes to jobs that could be added in the future, in my opinion.
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