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 Bahamut.Rumaha
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2009-07-04 04:23:40
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Daskinnybear said:
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Rdm needs something, anything decent hell I'd even take getting back some stuff we lost. After years and years of nothing but gimps we get lolenspell2<enspell1 and a ja whose only real use is to use it every 6-7 min to help you keep refresh and haste up a bit longer... at least let it work on other people. Make dia divine again give us cure V back and give us our old swd skill back. Wouldn't mind repose either even with our super gimp divine skill. But really try making the job with the highest native enhancing magic the best at buffing... or at least make it comparable to other. I mean the fact that whm gets a leg peice that makes barspells so much better a rdm would have to get 100enhancing skill just to get the same increase... maybe like a haste2 or hastega. And more enfeebles. Theres so many more out there that it wouldn't be too broken if we got that would be nice to have.


You know what I read? >_>

"Make RDM into WHM+2"

Seriously.. Cure V? What would WHM get to keep it as the "primary healer job"? Cure VI and Curaga V?

Repose..? WHM would get what? Reposega? Repose II?

Sounds to me like you just want to be a WHM and still have Refresh. RDM already has enough to keep it ahead of any other "Healer" in the game. WHM is obviously meant to be the primary healer, but with RDM and SCH in the picture they already get stuffed on the back burner.

Take away RDM's Refresh? Sure thing!
Don't give SCH 3~4MP/tick Sublimation? Alrighty..


what does rdm have that is exclusive to its job really any more? enspells big fookin deal, it has been taken apart and its spells and abilities handed out like candy to old and new jobs. the enspell 2 i agree useless pretty much for most solo rdm. the composure i disagree on if your castin that every 7 minutes you dont know how it works =P cast it once every 2 hours is all you need if you dont change zones =P what rdm needs is refresh II and and a raise in its sword and dagger skills n i would be happy almost, then maybe reraise at mid lvls and raise 2 at some point. dont want to replace whm but these wouldnt hurt it if the spells were given after lvl 50 or 60 id say. but i doubt rdm will see any more tweaks ever so its all a pipe dream =P


I can agree to give them RR might as well, MAYBE R2 @75ish, i can maybe agree to Hastega and maybe give Rdm Sleepga 1 naturally w/o /blm, OR give rdm a once per 10min JA like the BLU merited one that -Ga's ur next spell or mebe once every 20min
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By Sylph.Jax 2009-07-04 04:26:46
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Rumaha said:
Daskinnybear said:
Hitetsu said:
Dasva said:
Rdm needs something, anything decent hell I'd even take getting back some stuff we lost. After years and years of nothing but gimps we get lolenspell2<enspell1 and a ja whose only real use is to use it every 6-7 min to help you keep refresh and haste up a bit longer... at least let it work on other people. Make dia divine again give us cure V back and give us our old swd skill back. Wouldn't mind repose either even with our super gimp divine skill. But really try making the job with the highest native enhancing magic the best at buffing... or at least make it comparable to other. I mean the fact that whm gets a leg peice that makes barspells so much better a rdm would have to get 100enhancing skill just to get the same increase... maybe like a haste2 or hastega. And more enfeebles. Theres so many more out there that it wouldn't be too broken if we got that would be nice to have.


You know what I read? >_>

"Make RDM into WHM+2"

Seriously.. Cure V? What would WHM get to keep it as the "primary healer job"? Cure VI and Curaga V?

Repose..? WHM would get what? Reposega? Repose II?

Sounds to me like you just want to be a WHM and still have Refresh. RDM already has enough to keep it ahead of any other "Healer" in the game. WHM is obviously meant to be the primary healer, but with RDM and SCH in the picture they already get stuffed on the back burner.

Take away RDM's Refresh? Sure thing!
Don't give SCH 3~4MP/tick Sublimation? Alrighty..


what does rdm have that is exclusive to its job really any more? enspells big fookin deal, it has been taken apart and its spells and abilities handed out like candy to old and new jobs. the enspell 2 i agree useless pretty much for most solo rdm. the composure i disagree on if your castin that every 7 minutes you dont know how it works =P cast it once every 2 hours is all you need if you dont change zones =P what rdm needs is refresh II and and a raise in its sword and dagger skills n i would be happy almost, then maybe reraise at mid lvls and raise 2 at some point. dont want to replace whm but these wouldnt hurt it if the spells were given after lvl 50 or 60 id say. but i doubt rdm will see any more tweaks ever so its all a pipe dream =P


I can agree to give them RR might as well, MAYBE R2 @75ish, i can maybe agree to Hastega and maybe give Rdm Sleepga 1 naturally w/o /blm, OR give rdm a once per 10min JA like the BLU merited one that -Ga's ur next spell or mebe once every 20min


i just think they'll create a new mage with all this stuff included. or can just level all the mage jobs and change jobs to your liking!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Nombly 2009-07-04 05:29:17
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Hey, in the mean times...

Give warrior a native hasso and meditate effect while subbing nin.
Give whm raisega 3.
Give monk goku style punching haste even without hundred fists.
Give Blm doublecast and One mp cost.
Make thf able to steal tradable abjurations!
Give pld a provoke of it's own with a 10 second timer.
give drk defense, we all know they're tanks, they even have knight in their name, amirite?
give bst charmga!
give brd tier 3 haste songs and tier 5 minuet.
give rng a f*cking bazooka.
give sam zerk and make hagun a 2-3 hit like soboro :O
give nin.. wait you just did...
Give drgs Fafnir as a pet ^^
give smns a refreshga bloodpact.
give blus ridill and joy toy.
give pup dmg.
cor... PIRATE HOOK YO. ARRR
give dnc stripper clothing and drain tp dances.
give sch blm -agas :D

Seriously though, Rdm can solo half the stuff in this game already, be happy with what you have.
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By Remora.Rhinok 2009-07-04 05:38:16
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OMGAWD! hes right, bazooka's & pirate hooks!!!!!! and a parrot that makes bullets, that would just be insane
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By Shiva.Nightraid 2009-07-04 06:03:15
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Rumaha said:
Daskinnybear said:
Hitetsu said:
Dasva said:
Rdm needs something, anything decent hell I'd even take getting back some stuff we lost. After years and years of nothing but gimps we get lolenspell2<enspell1 and a ja whose only real use is to use it every 6-7 min to help you keep refresh and haste up a bit longer... at least let it work on other people. Make dia divine again give us cure V back and give us our old swd skill back. Wouldn't mind repose either even with our super gimp divine skill. But really try making the job with the highest native enhancing magic the best at buffing... or at least make it comparable to other. I mean the fact that whm gets a leg peice that makes barspells so much better a rdm would have to get 100enhancing skill just to get the same increase... maybe like a haste2 or hastega. And more enfeebles. Theres so many more out there that it wouldn't be too broken if we got that would be nice to have.


You know what I read? >_>

"Make RDM into WHM+2"

Seriously.. Cure V? What would WHM get to keep it as the "primary healer job"? Cure VI and Curaga V?

Repose..? WHM would get what? Reposega? Repose II?

Sounds to me like you just want to be a WHM and still have Refresh. RDM already has enough to keep it ahead of any other "Healer" in the game. WHM is obviously meant to be the primary healer, but with RDM and SCH in the picture they already get stuffed on the back burner.

Take away RDM's Refresh? Sure thing!
Don't give SCH 3~4MP/tick Sublimation? Alrighty..


what does rdm have that is exclusive to its job really any more? enspells big fookin deal, it has been taken apart and its spells and abilities handed out like candy to old and new jobs. the enspell 2 i agree useless pretty much for most solo rdm. the composure i disagree on if your castin that every 7 minutes you dont know how it works =P cast it once every 2 hours is all you need if you dont change zones =P what rdm needs is refresh II and and a raise in its sword and dagger skills n i would be happy almost, then maybe reraise at mid lvls and raise 2 at some point. dont want to replace whm but these wouldnt hurt it if the spells were given after lvl 50 or 60 id say. but i doubt rdm will see any more tweaks ever so its all a pipe dream =P


I can agree to give them RR might as well, MAYBE R2 @75ish, i can maybe agree to Hastega and maybe give Rdm Sleepga 1 naturally w/o /blm, OR give rdm a once per 10min JA like the BLU merited one that -Ga's ur next spell or mebe once every 20min


Your kidding me right?
Wtf is up with RDM's and not being happy with they've got,
and really is that a joke give RDM Cure V....good idea making RDM into a WHM.

RDM is already the most overpowered Job and you want to add more to it? way to go.
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 Bahamut.Rumaha
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2009-07-04 06:13:44
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Giving Rdm R2 just helps everyone not even really the Rdm so i have 0 problem with that cuz R2 > R1 any day

Only thing i think they should get at all is R2

because it doesnt make them anymore uber it just helps everyone else
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By Caitsith.Surge 2009-07-04 06:23:15
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Nah rdm has alot going for it. But a refresh II would be awsome to see but prolly as a merited spell, and on that topic i think whm is going to get another merited spell if not then bst is going to get an update.

Only jobs i think after that was Blu, and maybe Cor. If not them then smn with some brand new summons now that would be sic to see something new for them for a change
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By Bahamut.Alriath 2009-07-04 06:54:14
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Nombly said:
Hey, in the mean times...

Give warrior a native hasso and meditate effect while subbing nin.
Give whm raisega 3.
Give monk goku style punching haste even without hundred fists.
Give Blm doublecast and One mp cost.
Make thf able to steal tradable abjurations!
Give pld a provoke of it's own with a 10 second timer.
give drk defense, we all know they're tanks, they even have knight in their name, amirite?
give bst charmga!
give brd tier 3 haste songs and tier 5 minuet.
give rng a f*cking bazooka.
give sam zerk and make hagun a 2-3 hit like soboro :O
give nin.. wait you just did...
Give drgs Fafnir as a pet ^^
give smns a refreshga bloodpact.
give blus ridill and joy toy.
give pup dmg.
cor... PIRATE HOOK YO. ARRR
give dnc stripper clothing and drain tp dances.
give sch blm -agas :D

Seriously though, Rdm can solo half the stuff in this game already, be happy with what you have.


Give pup dmg. <--- lmfao for 10mins.
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2009-07-04 07:33:26
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i think THF is getting something or i hope lol...and 1 job w/ spells obviously it says... i wanna see what is gna get stuff now
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By Asura.Xedal 2009-07-04 08:51:00
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BLM could do with some much needed love, just so my friend will stop bitching to me. XD
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-07-04 08:54:57
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Nombly said:
Hey, in the mean times...

Give warrior a native hasso and meditate effect while subbing nin.
Give whm raisega 3.
Give monk goku style punching haste even without hundred fists.
Give Blm doublecast and One mp cost.
Make thf able to steal tradable abjurations!
Give pld a provoke of it's own with a 10 second timer.
give drk defense, we all know they're tanks, they even have knight in their name, amirite?
give bst charmga!
give brd tier 3 haste songs and tier 5 minuet.
give rng a f*cking bazooka.
give sam zerk and make hagun a 2-3 hit like soboro :O
give nin.. wait you just did...
Give drgs Fafnir as a pet ^^
give smns a refreshga bloodpact.
give blus ridill and joy toy.
give pup dmg.
cor... PIRATE HOOK YO. ARRR
give dnc stripper clothing and drain tp dances.
give sch blm -agas :D

Seriously though, Rdm can solo half the stuff in this game already, be happy with what you have.

Most of that made me lmao and a few made me wonder "why not?" BLU should get Justice Sword though, idc about Ridill >.>

BST Charmga would own O_O One man party instead of a one man duo
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By Asura.Xedal 2009-07-04 08:58:28
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Nightfyre said:

give drk defense, we all know they're tanks, they even have knight in their name, amirite?


Also, reading that made me laugh XD

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Yeah BST Charmga would totally own.. Imagine what they could do in BCNMs!? Charm everything, first one to uncharm gets pwned by anything else XD (Assuming there are mobs that can be charmed in said BCNMs)
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By Fairy.Azulmagia 2009-07-04 09:37:59
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Dasva said:
Azulmagia said:
I still say a universal sword WS that doesn't suck would be nice.

Or at least power up Expiacion and Death Blossom.

... Expiacion is pretty good. Besides 1 hand ws tend to suck unless there multihit mostly cause of 1 hand weapon dmg ratings.


I've done over 1000 with Savage Blade, even before I got my Brutal Earring. Expiacion? I've never done more than 700. In endgame scenarios, I usually do 80-300 with it. It's not strong at all. Also, it IS multi-hit.
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By Ramuh.Thunderz 2009-07-04 11:32:09
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DRG needs an update.. lol

it got nothing but gimpin >.>

I dunno give him access to more gear that isn't impossible to get

New JA? Un~gimp his penta?

I dunno something would be nice...
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-07-04 12:22:54
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DRG is one of the jobs I consider well-balanced... ungimped Penta is currently masquerading around under the name of Drakesbane.
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By Lakshmi.Wardens 2009-07-04 12:49:05
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Nombly said:
Hey, in the mean times...

Give warrior a native hasso and meditate effect while subbing nin.
Give whm raisega 3.
Give monk goku style punching haste even without hundred fists.
Give Blm doublecast and One mp cost.
Make thf able to steal tradable abjurations!
Give pld a provoke of it's own with a 10 second timer.
give drk defense, we all know they're tanks, they even have knight in their name, amirite?
give bst charmga!
give brd tier 3 haste songs and tier 5 minuet.
give rng a f*cking bazooka.
give sam zerk and make hagun a 2-3 hit like soboro :O
give nin.. wait you just did...
Give drgs Fafnir as a pet ^^
give smns a refreshga bloodpact.
give blus ridill and joy toy.
give pup dmg.
cor... PIRATE HOOK YO. ARRR
give dnc stripper clothing and drain tp dances.
give sch blm -agas :D

Seriously though, Rdm can solo half the stuff in this game already, be happy with what you have.


WTF?! lol were these serious? xD Most of these were so over the top.... I'm guessing these were a joke. I did laugh alot while reading them though lol
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By Fairy.Azulmagia 2009-07-04 13:07:07
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Rumaha said:
I can agree to give them RR might as well, MAYBE R2 @75ish, i can maybe agree to Hastega and maybe give Rdm Sleepga 1 naturally w/o /blm, OR give rdm a once per 10min JA like the BLU merited one that -Ga's ur next spell or mebe once every 20min


Actually it makes the spell NOT AoE. Problem #2 with BLU nukes is that like 95% of them are f*cking AoE with absolutely real range. (Problem #1, of course, is lack of real damage for the MP cost/casting times).
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-07-04 13:26:25
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Maybe they thought Diffusion works with DD spells? /shrug

But yeah, AoE is a problem for us since a lot of our spells are AoE.
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By Fairy.Azulmagia 2009-07-04 13:30:06
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Oh yeah they probably were thinking Diffusion. BLU gets Diffusion because all our buffs (sans Diamondhide) are self-target. RDM can already cast its crap on other people >.> (Note: Phalanx II)
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By Ifrit.Shadobi 2009-07-04 13:43:06
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I wish they would let you Upgrade one main job to master Level with new title, 20 jobs you pick one per account to full master mode(No sub job) level higher then 75. Example:

Ninja(master mode):SHINOBI(lv 150) new 2 hour with new and old abilities.
-.- with New awesome artifact and um this time ninja mask SE.
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By Fairy.Azulmagia 2009-07-04 15:20:52
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Shadobi said:
I wish they would let you Upgrade one main job to master Level with new title, 20 jobs you pick one per account to full master mode(No sub job) level higher then 75. Example:

Ninja(master mode):SHINOBI(lv 150) new 2 hour with new and old abilities.
-.- with New awesome artifact and um this time ninja mask SE.


You'll never get to play another job except that one again.
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By Ifrit.Shadobi 2009-07-04 15:33:27
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Then switch back to original mode -.- if that is the case work with me here.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-07-04 15:36:58
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The game will break that way
the strongest mobs are only 15 levels higher then our cap...remember that
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-07-04 15:38:21
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What do people like me do who play multiple jobs on a regular basis? I'm already making sacrifices in merits and now you're asking me to choose one job above all others... that's fine for career XXX players but I bounce between 3 or 4 jobs at any given time.
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By Odin.Ichrius 2009-07-04 15:50:40
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I'm too lazy to read through every page to check if it was already mentioned, but Auto-Refresh for DRK would be nice. It isn't game breaking, and some would say it's not even that great or a big deal, but it's one of the small things that would make it a little easier. Not to mention PLD gets it and it's annoying always doing the same repetitive conversation in a party.
"Dude...put on your Parade Gorget"
"NUUUUUUUUUU!!!! MY DPS! ;_____;"

( > .>);
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By Hades.Medjai 2009-07-04 15:54:31
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if they make that master mode thing they could make like nyzul isle but the mobs are get stronger and stronger and keep gettin stronger the higher you climb like nyzul but the end reward isnt armor its the mastery of the job and new JAs new AF or something to that nature but would be harder for some jobs like BLM and WHM since they dont get pts guess SE could make the tower according to the player(s) entering can go from 1 player to a PT i guess
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By Hades.Medjai 2009-07-04 15:56:18
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the native refresh would make RDM more overpowerd lets give them the ability to have up to what umm 6 to 9 MP a tick if they are the healer in a meripo lol
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By Fairy.Nagano 2009-07-07 11:22:37
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more love to blm please
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By Remora.Ravd 2009-07-07 12:00:06
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just my thought i had last night... blu should get an ability like use every 2 mins or whatever that allows you to copy any JA that the mob you're fighting just used and have it not be like uberly gimpped, really dont feel like this would be extremely over powered or game breaking but would add quite a bit to the job, clearly ud need like limitations such as like pile driver on omega... but still, also ridill and justice sword... yes please

Also... most jobs do need updates, people say it would be over powered... but it could definitely be doable like blm and rdm,

give rdm more like -ga enfeebles even like sleepga I, either get rid of or give us divine magic (flash anyone?), rdm already can 6-9 tick even without refreshII and having that as a merited ability would suck because then u wouldnt be able to have another merit. diffusion like ability for rdm? not really a great idea 10-20 min recast on it would add like nothing to the job... charges like sch... better idea but would most likely be over powered and get rid of need for sch, rdm definitely needs like graviga and sleepga, maybe bindga and possibly silencega, but not much more than that

blm just needs like an ability that increases the power of their nuke (not acc like ES) for either the same ammount of MP but longer recast, or increased MP cost.. but the damage up would have to be reasonable (similar to going up in a teir) and reuse on ability like 5 mins

Pup, needs gear... damage on its fine... just needs like obtainable gear other than PW h2h and usk... new cape be nice for it
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