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 Pandemonium.Eternaltriumph
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By Pandemonium.Eternaltriumph 2009-06-26 09:44:42
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Glaciont said:
Celestinia said:
Someone shouted in whitegate yesterday that SMN was one of the jobs featured in the july update, said he heard it from a interview with a SE developer. Any word on this?

If Atomos/Bahamut were available for SMN I might actually unlock the job :)

Really hope BLM get something too, maybe JA's that enhance each of the elements potency at the cost of lowering the opposite elements potency, just like ele staffs, but really anything would be nice...


I seriously doubt Bahamut will be featured since he is keen on destroying the world..

I had to necrobump this. >.> You obviously didn't fully grasp the concept of CoP nor of unlocking Avatars, or Waking the Beast(if you did it) if that's your reason for Bahamut not being unlocked. xD

Bahamut won't be an avatar because SE had issues converting DIABOLOS due to what needed to be gimped on him, and by how much. If nothing else, Cait Sith is likely to be a summon questable after WotG missions are completed. Atomos also...but I can't see how he's fit into a summon. How it would move about along with you and whatnot.
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By Odin.Arnor 2009-06-26 09:46:16
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oh and ninja needs something to help its enmity.. im sorry but an evasion tank should not lose hate for getting missed or having a shadow hit =/ and as for bahamut as an avatar SE has denied that would ever happen since day 1 that bahamut has been in the story.. odins too big.. pheonix is a sword.. alexander doesnt move.. at this time i dont see anything but the light ixion that can help you in campaign as possible new avatar.. unless they add something.. but honestly unnerf campaign.. make it so you can skillup in campaign so all these people doin astral burns and lvl sync parties can get thier skillups that need so much lol.. and just make campaign worth doin again.. cause i honestly dont see the point in it anymore after they nerfed it to the point its impossible to get exp off fortifications.. or from some jobs at all.. honestly once i get the highest rank and my body/bodies i dont see what the reason id be doin campaign anymore would be =/
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By Cerberus.Nieko 2009-06-26 09:50:50
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I dont like Cait Sith.... not so much from XI but from how useless he was in VII. Sorry excuse for a pup.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-06-26 09:53:52
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His limit break was too chancey. d:
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By Odin.Arnor 2009-06-26 09:56:08
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just by how they described the new avatars.. as being bigger then the others.. i doubt its cait sith lol.. though im gonna say now if cait sith does become an avatar ihave a feeling its gonna be one big disappointment
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By Cerberus.Nieko 2009-06-26 09:57:17
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Haseyo said:
His limit break was too chancey. d:

oh wow i forgot all about how terrible that was lol
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By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-06-26 10:07:49
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Nieko said:
I dont like Cait Sith.... not so much from XI but from how useless he was in VII. Sorry excuse for a pup.


LOL I totally feel ya there. Cait Sith blew *** in VII...swapped him in once, fought with him, and then never touched his silly *** again lol
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By Odin.Ichrius 2009-06-26 10:52:16
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Thunderz said:
you also forget that SE doesn't do small nerfs it only comes in large servings

"nerf Fort exp....." 30min/ 50exp

"nerf penta" 50tp return....to wtf 16~ish

yeah I don't want a nerf and the game is fine as it is anything + to it would be welcoming


Seeing how most TP returns are Main/First hit TP + 1 for each hit after...I wouldn't even call it nerfing. 50 TP return is blatantly overpowered. Just like the 2-3 days after they increased Group 2 merit caps to 5 each/10 total. Complete chaos with Sneak Attack working from the front of the mob and not behind it, but you wouldn't call that a "nerf" either. I just don't what the correct word for stuff like this is. ( > .>);

But as to the Fortification EXP...was a sad sad sad day...... ( ~ .~)
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By Odin.Blazza 2009-06-26 11:07:45
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@Ichiris: It's called a fix, as you say, 50tp return is broken

@ the smn debate, I somehow doubt they're going to spring some new avatars on us last minute, but if they do, I see cait sith and atomos both as likely options, atomos could easily take the form of a maw as it did in some really old FF game, and Cait sith might not suck as bad as he did in FFVII, and besides, he DID get the black materia for you (which you *** UP AND GAVE TO SEPHIROTH! NOOB!).

@ Arnor: Phoenix could work, it could be made to fit into the story pretty easily since he's the avatar of rebirth, also, he's not actually a sword, he was just IN the sword. Alexander COULD actually work, it would just need some serious planning on how to use him as an avatar if he doesn't move, but kinda fails for story imo. Odin also is too big, but I guess could be scaled down, but again, doesn't really fit in story wise I think (could be made to I guess, but don't get your hopes up), and Auroral Alicorn could easily be made an avatar, since it has no *** story whatsoever.

@ fortifications: I do so little campaign that I've been demoted 4 times, but yeh, killing forts is boring and requires a lot of it to even change the nations influence much, it should at least be rewarding with exp/AN.
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By Garuda.Fightingfurball 2009-06-26 19:36:45
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a simple answer too nin not being as good of a tank at holding hate as pld is that it holds its hate by subbing war and doing damage, if you look the damage a nin does in a pt tanking compared too pld you would entirely understand why nin costs more and has less emnimty gear. seriously if they gave nin a ja what greatly increases its emnimty but reduces the nin's damage how many people would seriously use it?
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2009-06-26 19:42:27
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Nieko said:
Arnor said:
and as for nerfing sam.. sam is already nerfed.. im sorry the job is a powerhouse.. but actually hitting the mob can be rediculous.. ive missed too weaks with gekkos =/ thats just not right.. how about making it so sam can actually hit a mob =/

<lie> SAM has the Zanshin trait to semi-negate this.
EDIT: sorry didnt notice u said WS's. Yea SAM does miss that alot but everyone misses. Dragon Kick misses, Guillotine misses, Raging Rush misses. Flare gets resisted by mobs weak to fire. It happens.


never seen a guillotine miss... seen a RR miss but he was flashed.. never seen a dragon kick miss... ive never strait missed a Blade: Jin yet either
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-06-26 19:48:09
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You know why you see sams miss ws? Cause how often do you see a sam wear any acc gear? Just cause its single hit doesn't mean you will hit all the time.
Rdm updates nao!!! Um and ones that are actually nice. Something pt oriented maybe... like something that will actually bring them to the front lines like promised.
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2009-06-26 19:50:11
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Dasva said:
You know why you see sams miss ws? Cause how often do you see a sam wear any acc gear? Just cause its single hit doesn't mean you will hit all the time.
Rdm updates nao!!! Um and ones that are actually nice. Something pt oriented maybe... like something that will actually bring them to the front lines like promised.


i wear enough acc gear to be caped on birds and i WS in like.. well alot less lol i think i go down to 80% so i hit 80% of my gekkos BUT thers is suposed to be an Atk and Acc boost on it so iuno
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-06-26 19:52:58
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Really I don't think I've seen a gkat ws that said anything about acc boost... dmg yes. And as far as gekko goes...
Skill level: 225
Mutes target. Damage varies with TP
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2009-06-26 19:54:29
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there a suposed acc and atk boost for gekko onry iuno i heard it somewhere
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By Alexander.Ultrarichard 2009-06-26 19:56:40
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Kasha > gekko on almost every one i've seen anyway.. so it cant be that much of a boost.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-06-26 19:58:46
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Well I've never used them but yeah never heard of a special att/acc boost. And if you keep wiffing I think that sorta settles taht
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By Alexander.Ultrarichard 2009-06-26 20:01:31
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i play a friend's sam quite a bit, and (with minimal knowledge of the technicals) even i noticed gekko miss much more than any others. kasha always does 1k+, where gekko, if it hits, quite often doesnt manage it..
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-06-26 20:06:05
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Ah just read a side note on wiki. Supposedly theres a note of possible double attack on gekko... however seeing as both gekko and kasha have the same tp and stat mods and number of hits and there dmg doesnt vary that much I seriously doubt it. Especially since it still needs citation. Something like double attack would make huge difference and be obvious. I mean Man Stab only gives 1.66 attack and peopel figured that out like that.
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By Odin.Arnor 2009-06-27 04:18:08
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ok 1. i honestly dont see odin workin at all just cause hes already a boss in ein.. and 2. my sam has justice torque and 3 GKT merits and counting and im missing too weaks.. and i know sams in full usu with justice torque full merits and 54 accuracy and miss all the time.. so accuracy gear honestly doesnt have anything to do with it.. and as for double attack on gekko i think its mainly just damage wise you dont get a second hit that is shown
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By Odin.Ahligieri 2009-06-27 05:23:31
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There's a double attack possibility on every ws I believe (could be wrong though). Very noticeable with 1 hits however, as the dmg will increase by a LOT. And you can tell when it procs from your tp return. For example with my ws setup on sam, I get 17 TP returned. When double attack procs I get 18...and a crap load more dmg :D

And about SAMs ws missing. 1 hits are supposedly capped, aside from flash obviously, and blinds from like faf/nid, according to come BG testers (I know a lot of people don't care for BG on here, blah blah). I remember someone even parsing capped acc on Gekko, using blind potions. But it's more noticable with SAM since a good one is probably WSing a hell of a lot.

Rerail - Nin needs an update, as I'm sure lots of people mentioned. I know SE didn't intend for it to be a tank, but a DD instead right? So make it a better D....*** it, just give us Utsusemi: San...

And ichi overriding ni for nins. Can be for everyone idc, but at least for nin.
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By Odin.Arnor 2009-06-27 21:52:55
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utsu san = unbeatable ninjas ftw XD
and a good nin/drk can keep up with a pld/nin on gods and HNMs any day
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-06-27 21:57:45
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Arnor said:
oh and ninja needs something to help its enmity.. im sorry but an evasion tank should not lose hate for getting missed or having a shadow hit =/

They don't lose hate for getting missed and lose a hell of alot less for shadow getting hit then they would've for taking the dmg. /drk or /rdm if you want to get rediculous hate. Much more then a pld/nin could dream of
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2009-06-28 03:40:49
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Not a job update, but I think it'd be cool to add a ring or something to the list of GP items that lets you warp to your Guild once a day lol. Maybe something like level 78 or 88+.
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By Asura.Slamm 2009-06-28 04:53:39
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Arnor said:
oh and ninja needs something to help its enmity.. im sorry but an evasion tank should not lose hate for getting missed or having a shadow hit =/


lolevasiontank

i agree nin need an update tho, but something to support its /drk tanking ability not to support lolevatank
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By Cerberus.Boundsoul 2009-06-28 06:24:18
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i like the idea of adding whips and the idea of giving DNC another weapon option, but i like the idea of giving DNC whips even more. i mean with all the flailing around, it just makes sense.
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By Kujata.Akeda 2009-06-28 13:00:41
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Scholar and some of the other new jobs are in serious need of some 'Job Specific' gear. If you look at the AH, you'll notice that the original jobs all have armor that only their job can wear, such as Sha'ir armor for Bards.

I haven't played Summoner much, but the whole 'takes x MP every second to keep out' just sucks. Even as a Tarutaru with lots of MP it's like the only thing you can really do is heal with occasionally summoning an avatar for the occasional Wards.

It'll never happen but PUP and BST get their pets for free, and PUP's can give their 'pets' auto regen and auto refresh. I dont see why a Summoner cant have a totally free avatar.
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By Hades.Medjai 2009-06-28 13:26:20
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dont know if any one has said this but BRD needs like a reverse Pianissimo where you can make single target songs like Hunters Prelude and make it AoE would be great for BRDs that do alot of arrow burn PTs
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-06-28 13:34:24
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Akeda said:
Scholar and some of the other new jobs are in serious need of some 'Job Specific' gear. If you look at the AH, you'll notice that the original jobs all have armor that only their job can wear, such as Sha'ir armor for Bards.

I haven't played Summoner much, but the whole 'takes x MP every second to keep out' just sucks. Even as a Tarutaru with lots of MP it's like the only thing you can really do is heal with occasionally summoning an avatar for the occasional Wards.

It'll never happen but PUP and BST get their pets for free, and PUP's can give their 'pets' auto regen and auto refresh. I dont see why a Summoner cant have a totally free avatar.

I know Carby and Garuda you can get down to 0 perp cost, Carby you can get enough for the Auto-Refresh trait to show. Hence Carby kiting to regain MP. I don't know how feasible it is for the other avatars without Nirvana though.
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By Hades.Rikimarushadow 2009-06-28 13:38:45
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PENTASPAM!!!! DRG's need it again lol
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