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Jobs That Needs Updates....
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Jobs that needs updates....
PUP needs nerfed, they are absurdly over-powered and anymore that's all the endgame shells want. I'm sick of it.
Nadul said: PUP needs nerfed, they are absurdly over-powered and anymore that's all the endgame shells want. I'm sick of it. *** LOL Nadul said: PUP needs nerfed, they are absurdly over-powered and anymore that's all the endgame shells want. I'm sick of it. This is good. I've yet to see an Endgame shell actively recruit Pup's. I will say tho if pup is setup for full potential on BLM;mode they can do some AMAZING things. However i would say almost all pup's dont understand or utilize the BLM;mode. One party of pup's "could" destroy so many things. This being said Pup needs absolutely no updates. What it needs is more player understanding of mechanics. Thunderz said: you forgot DRK have a job trait that causes instant death I think its called /emo :p also DRK is the last job I want tanking a IT mob Nightfyre said: Vagnagun said: A new tank class!! only two to choose from. No. Numerous jobs make effective tanks at certain levels, the fact that the player base has a collective one-track mind is not SE's problem. Beyond PLD and NIN I've tanked EXP parties as WAR and BLU and been in parties with SAM and DNC tanks. I've seen DRK/NIN tank and been in parties where the RNG tanked the back half of a mob because they were such strong DD. Nobody died; in fact nobody even complained. RDM/NIN at endgame, MNK can tank early on and 74+. We have tanks in spades already. I hate when people try to use this plz try to tank birds with warrior, sam, etc etc at lvl 54 PLZ do and send me a vid last time a war tried this he got face raped by the bird and it wasn't pretty merit pts don't count as actual tanking because the mob survives what? 10~15sec Only 2 jobs can really Tank an IT+ mob and again its PLD or NIN (being PT or endgame and this isn't about solo'ing but actually holding hate) So again we only have 2 tanks and when none of them are seeking no PT for you (samething when they dont show up in Endgame event! no dyna for you) SAM can effectively tank birds. I tanked most of my levels from 1-61. I have no vids (i dont play sam much anymore) but it doesnt take half a brain to tank as a sam. Also, the reason most wars cant tank birds is 1) they dont want to 2) they gear for DD as opposed to tanking. For anyone to say war cant tank is ridiculous lol war IS the original tank. Yes nerf sam!
lets kill the bandwagoners and disappoint others Also, ninja nerf Hagun to give no Tp bonus and make Soboro kick rates lower without telling people. I would looooove to see the reactions.
Srsly, sam and mnk make sick tanks. Just take a whack at Salvage if you haven't already and you'll soon see the light. lol Maybe not tanks in the traditional sense as they probably take more damage over time than NIN and PLD, but they're capable of dealing enough damage to counter-act so fewer tools they have to mitigate damage, so it's still tanking in essence as long as WHMs aren't getting beaten down with their own cure clogs. D:
what also hurts the idea of other jobs tanking is that if you invite a mnk a war..a sam..or even a dnc to tank they will leave and say "I'm a <job> I dont tank invite teh pldz or teh ninz!" that pisses me off so bad
Dubont said: what also hurts the idea of other jobs tanking is that if you invite a mnk a war..a sam..or even a dnc to tank they will leave and say "I'm a <job> I dont tank invite teh pldz or teh ninz!" that pisses me off so bad People being stuck in their ways...it is a ***. I've never deliberately tanked as DNC, but I'd be willing to try it (outside of Campaign, tank there all the time lol), provided someone else was there as a safety net to make sure I didn't *** bite it. And goddamn what a *** it must be keeping hate off of a WAR or RNG, or God Forbid SAM as a DNC tank >.< Honestly, I'd like to see more support classes, tanks aren't even necessary. Even in a low level party if the people you have are good enough, or the support classes are good enough. Tanks in a burn exp party, lawl.
Support class, currently you have RDM WHM BRD COR SMN, and technically BLU can too, but basically rounded down to BRD and COR. Time mage would ruin the game dynamics. (Or Sage Sundi said so anyhow) But something that could just enhance the jobs, and players we have currently, you could easily replace a tank with said DD war, or DNC, or DD SAM even. If the support class helped enough to enhance these players. Xxnumbertwoxx said: Dubont said: what also hurts the idea of other jobs tanking is that if you invite a mnk a war..a sam..or even a dnc to tank they will leave and say "I'm a <job> I dont tank invite teh pldz or teh ninz!" that pisses me off so bad People being stuck in their ways...it is a ***. I've never deliberately tanked as DNC, but I'd be willing to try it (outside of Campaign, tank there all the time lol), provided someone else was there as a safety net to make sure I didn't *** bite it. And goddamn what a *** it must be keeping hate off of a WAR or RNG, or God Forbid SAM as a DNC tank >.< A secondary weapon choice for DNC would be nice. At least give em B skill cap in H2H.
Other than that /prays for RNG & COR goodies >:3 NIN rly needs something new like atlest a throwing weapon skill...
Bartimaeus said: While we're at it, nerf SAM. Funny, and more importantly: needed. :D Honestly, I fully agree. Sam was showered in abilities while others were either nerfed or left out to dry. A Sam nerf would actually be a good nerf even tho it would probably make the majority of the playerbase scream. Of course they will get more. Aravol said: LOL, dont get irritated. Imjust trying to explain. I have experience in both jobs from different games. Again, NO GEAR FOR DRK TO TANK with..lol orly? http://ffxigear.com/?ref=11300 Drk get access to alot of the best tanking-gear, but they still suck at it :p The lack of shield-skill = fail And allso, F in parry.. Motokosun said: A Sam nerf would actually be a good nerf even tho it would probably make the majority of the playerbase Fixed. Verace said: NIN rly needs something new like atlest a throwing weapon skill... ABSOLUTELY! Throwing skill + stars = huh?! Throwing is as it was @ ninja release... Basically the only thing it can actually be good on is the 4 Sky Gods. But lol @ needing to throw a wind for success. SE it's 2009, Update Ninja. I'm dreading the day when FF14 is announced that SAM is now a support job that buffs parties with the power of mystical katanananans (ala FFT) instead of a DD because of our special treatment. lol
Hmmm.. Doubtful they'd release throwing weaponskills..cuz then..wouldn't u need a throwing mythic? idk. just as far as the storyline goes. But yeah, that'd be badass if they did release them. I'd like to see a new weapon all together, the last weapon to be introduced was great katana, and polearm..so yeah.. GO GO GUNBLADES AND WHIPS
Many jobs can tank, and tank effectively IF They gear for it. However they do not gear to tank, they gear to do as much damage as possible but by doing so they make themselves extremely week in the realm of survival/tanking.
Galvaya said: GO GO GUNBLADES AND WHIPS I would LMFAO if they actually introduced gunblades...seriously, I always felt they were the stupidest things in the world LOL Whips, though, yeah *** it, why not? Let SCH use 'em for sure... ^^ Galvaya said: Hmmm.. Doubtful they'd release throwing weaponskills..cuz then..wouldn't u need a throwing mythic? idk. just as far as the storyline goes. But yeah, that'd be badass if they did release them. I'd like to see a new weapon all together, the last weapon to be introduced was great katana, and polearm..so yeah.. GO GO GUNBLADES AND WHIPS The idea of new weapons is a great one, but i fear if they released them they wouldnt give any one/few jobs A skill in it. I think it would be all around average :( Bartimaeus said: I seriously fear for people's well-being if SMN's don't get new avatars. Seriously, some *** is gonna get cut eventually if SE doesn't put out. lol  In all honesty what jobs do you feel will get a + and which if any get a -
I can just smell something for Cor Dnc and Blu. It just feels wrong like that... You guys are mean why does thing need a nerf
Just have an update giving new things don't nerf jobs >.> Having put a lot of time on sam >.> figuring out its utter crap the next day would suck real hard o.o TBH no jobs need a nerf. Because if SAM gets a nerf then TP burn is dead what you got left >> BLM manaburn w/o you need and guess who gets invited in manaburns >.> oh yeah. Have a SAM or WAR tank any HNM or Gods id enjoy seeing that Even if those jobs were the ORIGINAL tanks SE suddenly changed its mind and gave them some DD gear instead Why would I want a 2nd rate tank when I could go for the real deal I know SAM and WAR can somewhat tank but it requires some skill/ gear and a good set~up to keep you going but when it comes down to eating some hardcore DMG (PLD) or simply eva tanking (NIN) and STILL hold hate now thats a real tank |
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