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 Asura.Toralin
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By Asura.Toralin 2025-11-12 09:15:10
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Looking for latest naegling tp set suggestions, with dt capped and +4 etc. All Ody r30 available
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By Sylph.Timepassesbye 2025-11-12 09:46:53
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I feel like the accessories should stay pretty much the same as the single wield 4 in the warrior guide

this is the set I use with the murky ring in place of the D ring. still gives me 100% DA, 5o DT

main="Naegling",
sub="Blurred Shield +1",
ammo="Coiste Bodhar",
head="Sakpata's Helm",
neck="War. Beads +2",
ear1="Schere Earring",
ear2="Boii Earring +1",
body="Sakpata's Plate",
hands="Sakpata's Gauntlets",
ring1="Niqmaddu Ring",
ring2="Defending Ring",
back="Cichol's Mantle",
waist="Ioskeha Belt +1",
legs="Agoge Cuisses +3",
feet="Nyame Sollerets"
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By Asura.Vyre 2025-11-12 11:05:15
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Asura.Toralin said: »
Looking for latest naegling tp set suggestions, with dt capped and +4 etc. All Ody r30 available

Something akin to this:

ItemSet 401193

(Obviously the +3 AF should be +4, but Gearsets don't load them for me)

Also instead of sillyness with the earrings, any of the WAR Sortie earrings, even NQ, should let you hit capped Datk. With Pummeler's Legs you could also sub in Schere Earring instead of Sortie Earring.

As for the other Earring, well in order to maintaining TPing with Niqmaddu Ring (you really should), since you're at anywhere from 68~70% Datk in gear (so capped with 2~4 Datk merits(just got 5/5 damn it)) I wanted to put in Alabaster Earring, because at base it's basically like wearing a Moonlight Ring in your ear slot in terms of HP gain and DT. As you augment it, it will also gain high accuracy and eventually Store TP.

If you don't care about getting precisely 50% DT, you can use Telos Earring. If you don't have Niqmaddu you could use a second Moonlight Ring.

If you want more MEVA for Gaol (sounds like you don't need Gaol anymore) just start subbing in the Sakpata's where the AF and Empy are, until comfortable.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-11-12 11:34:04
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I'm probably in the minority, but I generally don't melee in JSE neck in my base set (I like free sleep wake-ups and the Regain), because DA is redundant and it doesn't really free up any more slots otherwise, and hitting 100% without it is no effort (though using JSE necks allows you to remove merits).

I use something like this as my base set for all weapons, not just single wield:

ItemSet 401194

28% Base DA + 5 merits = 33, this set overcaps DA by 2% and caps (P)DT. The cape is PDT. You can sub in Sakpata's Helm for more magic evasion (and double attack damage, it's actually what I prefer) and still hit 100% DA, but you might be at ~49% (P)DT. If you're more comfortable with DT on your cape, you probably need to drop Vim for JSE, and then maybe go with Alabaster Earring for the extra DT (Or Moonlight Ring, but dropping Niqmaddu is meh). I feel like in a base set, AF legs/feet are too good to drop. It's when you start getting into more tanky sets (MDT etc) that you can bring more Sakpata's in.
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By Asura.Vyre 2025-11-12 12:19:28
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
I'm probably in the minority, but I generally don't melee in JSE neck in my base set (I like free sleep wake-ups and the Regain), because DA is redundant and it doesn't really free up any more slots otherwise, and hitting 100% without it is no effort.

I use something like this as my base set for all weapons, not just single wield:

ItemSet 401194

28% Base DA + 5 merits = 33, this set overcaps DA by 2% and caps (P)DT. The cape is PDT. You can sub in Sakpata's Helm for more magic evasion (and double attack damage, it's actually what I prefer) and still hit 100% DA, but you might be at ~49% (P)DT. If you're more comfortable with DT on your cape, you probably need to drop Vim for JSE, and then maybe go with Alabaster Earring for the extra DT (Or Moonlight Ring, but dropping Niqmaddu is meh). I feel like in a base set, AF legs/feet are too good to drop. It's when you start getting into more tanky sets (MDT etc) that you can bring more Sakpata's in.

Vim Torque is cool for a swap piece to wake up, but full timing it is like begging to die.

Also JSE +2 necklace lets you do stuff like this:

ItemSet 401196

Reach full 100% datk while also getting full (assumed)5% Empy Double Damage bonus on top of Crit damage bonus from feet. Can even technically swap out Schere Earring for anything preferable if you use Gyudon for food (Assuming Stage 5 Laphria, if Stage 4 Laphria, swap in Petrov Ring in place of Niqmaddu).

Or if you prefer Helheim (or any non-Laphria weapon, say Ukon or Farsha or Flametongue or something) like some sort of Psychopath (Me) (Note, requires NQ Gyudon. Or if Unity is NOT #1: HQ Gyudon and Petrov Ring)

ItemSet 401197
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-11-12 12:27:52
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Asura.Vyre said: »
Vim Torque is cool for a swap piece to wake up, but full timing it is like begging to die.

A simple Regen from any mage counters it. I haven't "died" from it, and most modern fights you're engaged for a minute or so, not 15 minutes.

Asura.Vyre said: »
Also JSE +2 necklace lets you do stuff like this:

I was referring to base TP sets, not specialized ones. I didn't say JSE neck had no use at all.

I also don't know about using Antitail at all; don't you lose your overflow TP return every time you swap back into a ranged item? Since you'd be going from Non Throwing (Knobkierre) to throwing (Antitail +1)? Haven't tested it in a while but iirc it eats your tp every time you swap
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By Asura.Vyre 2025-11-12 12:36:09
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Asura.Vyre said: »
Vim Torque is cool for a swap piece to wake up, but full timing it is like begging to die.

A simple Regen from any mage counters it. I haven't "died" from it, and most modern fights you're engaged for a minute or so, not 15 minutes.

Asura.Vyre said: »
Also JSE +2 necklace lets you do stuff like this:

I was referring to base TP sets, not specialized ones. I didn't say JSE neck had no use at all.

I also don't know about using Antitail at all; don't you lose your overflow TP return every time you swap back into a ranged item? Since you'd be going from Non Throwing (Knobkierre) to throwing (Antitail +1)? Haven't tested it in a while but iirc it eats your tp every time you swap
If you use Antitail, you give up Ammo swaps, yes.
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By K123 2025-11-12 13:55:17
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Asura.Vyre said: »
Reach full 100% datk while also getting full (assumed)5% Empy Double Damage bonus on top of Crit damage bonus from feet.
Would this ever beat the PDL of Sakpata?

Why the boomerang when there is ammo with 3% DA?
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By Asura.Vyre 2025-11-12 14:14:36
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K123 said: »
Asura.Vyre said: »
Reach full 100% datk while also getting full (assumed)5% Empy Double Damage bonus on top of Crit damage bonus from feet.
Would this ever beat the PDL of Sakpata?

Why the boomerang when there is ammo with 3% DA?
Augmented the Antitail has 6 datk
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By Cerberus.Darkvlade 2025-11-12 14:41:06
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@ Vyre you got boii earring +1 & +2 in the set above
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By K123 2025-11-12 15:05:20
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Asura.Vyre said: »
K123 said: »
Asura.Vyre said: »
Reach full 100% datk while also getting full (assumed)5% Empy Double Damage bonus on top of Crit damage bonus from feet.
Would this ever beat the PDL of Sakpata?

Why the boomerang when there is ammo with 3% DA?
Augmented the Antitail has 6 datk
You swapped it in the first set now.
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By Asura.Vyre 2025-11-12 15:18:39
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@Darkvlade - Read.

K123 said: »
Asura.Vyre said: »
K123 said: »
Asura.Vyre said: »
Reach full 100% datk while also getting full (assumed)5% Empy Double Damage bonus on top of Crit damage bonus from feet.
Would this ever beat the PDL of Sakpata?

Why the boomerang when there is ammo with 3% DA?
Augmented the Antitail has 6 datk
You swapped it in the first set now.

Wot?
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By Asura.Vyre 2025-11-12 15:51:51
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Also I guess you could swap in Petrov and Sljor Ring if you wanted to keep Ammo swaps (smart), but you'd have to use HQ Gyudon in the non-Laphria set, always.
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