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                     Cerberus.Radaghast
                                                    
                                                                            
                                Server: Cerberus Game: FFXI Posts: 215 
                
			
			By Cerberus.Radaghast 2009-07-31 13:44:18			
			
						
                     
                 null said: youd be surprised how many BLMs dont know what they are doing, and since he is on that server and you(and me) are not, imma have to take his word for it.Oh no sir. I know that there are failmages. However, the way he is trying to word it would suggest that he, and a very select few others, are the only ones that know this ***.  I have a 60 blm.. which I never seem to play.... I have never played 75 blm, or done any endgame as a blm... and I knew all that already... so does that make me one of the best BLM's on my server? By his logic... probalby.                                     
            
                
                     Bahamut.Rumaha
                                                    
                                                                            
                                Server: Bahamut Game: FFXI Posts: 10000 
                
			
			By Bahamut.Rumaha 2009-07-31 13:45:27			
			
						
                     
                 well, one of the best can mean top 50 or top 100, not a set # of GOOD Blms on each server                                     
            
                
                     Cerberus.Radaghast
                                                    
                                                                            
                                Server: Cerberus Game: FFXI Posts: 215 
                
			
			By Cerberus.Radaghast 2009-07-31 13:49:28			
			
						
                     
                 Oh I agree. I just find that most of Korpgs posts, in general, are pretty pretentious, and "omg how does I awesome?!" 
 For all I know he's a fantastic BLM... so far he has only listed things that I feel every BLM ought to know... good or bad. If the things he listed are the basis for ranking a BLM, then I'd say he's average. He makes the cut. Not a failmage. I don't hate Korpg.. quite the opposite honestly. I look forward to his posts more than just about anyones.
 
            
                
                     Asura.Korpg
                                                    
                                                                            
                                Server: Asura Game: FFXI Posts: 7782 
                
			
			By Asura.Korpg 2009-07-31 14:02:55			
			
						
                     
                 There are a lot of good BLMs on Asura, but some of them don't even break 2k on puddings. On ice/thunder/whatever day they choose to upgrade their AMII.
 Some think that INT > all.
 
 Some think that MAcc > all.
 
 Some think that Elemental skill > all.
 
 Some think that MAB > all.
 
 But I'm sure this holds true for all servers, not just mine.
 
            
                
                     Asura.Slamm
                                                    
                                                                            
                                Server: Asura Game: FFXI Posts: 308 
                
			
			By Asura.Slamm 2009-07-31 14:03:14			
			
						
                     
                 null said: Korpg said: How can you be the best if you don't strive to be the best?
 
There is nothing wrong AT ALL with claiming to be one of the best or the best at something, just back it up, if he says he is  let him prove it. And there is also nothing wrong with confidence in oneself. Also if you dont strive to be the best, what are you aiming for?  That's just how i see it, i try to do and be the best i can be at everything i do, whether it be a game or not.couldn't say it better myself. a lot of people are gonna think they are the best @ w/e job on this or any game, if they are well good for them and if they aren't then does it really matter? seems a lot of people just /follow and *** at someone because everyone else does.. it's like how everyone hates Futchy, a lot of us hate him for something he has done to us or a friend on the game, but then even more people hate him just because others hate him.                                     
            
                
                     Cerberus.Nieko
                                                    
                                                                            
                                Server: Cerberus Game: FFXI Posts: 1463 
                
			
			By Cerberus.Nieko 2009-07-31 14:04:52			
			
						
                     
                 DIE THREAD DIE!!!!!!! AYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!                                     
            
                
                    
                    
                    
                                                            
                                                    
                                                                            
                                Server: Asura Game: FFXI Posts: 317 
                
			
			By Asura.Charlottie 2009-07-31 14:04:52			
			
						
                     
                 i have no idea how 2/3rds of any given job do it completely wrong 
 but there isn't anything special about being in the other 1/3rd or in many cases even in the top tier
 
 this thread is/was about people who play ffxi like it were slamball
 
 and definitely, some people were just born to rock one certain job and do things no one else has even attempted on it; essentially defining and representing that job for all the server to see, and in earnest
 
 this probably does not describe korpg. asura does have a lot of failmages/players. perhaps why the great players stand out and maybe even excel.
 
            
                
                     Asura.Slamm
                                                    
                                                                            
                                Server: Asura Game: FFXI Posts: 308 
                
			
			By Asura.Slamm 2009-07-31 14:13:08			
			
						
                     
                 Radaghast said: only listed things that I feel every BLM ought to know... good or bad.
would be great if they did, most blms on this server are HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE <3 asura but omg some of them really fail. same goes for how many sams on this server seem to use lolDOMARU and not know what 6 hit is.. people are dumb, and i bet other servers are atleast close to as bad                                     
            
                
                     Asura.Korpg
                                                    
                                                                            
                                Server: Asura Game: FFXI Posts: 7782 
                
			
			By Asura.Korpg 2009-07-31 14:18:03			
			
						
                     
                 Thats why there is a class system in this game:
 The noobs and the elite.
 
 The noobs outweigh the elite on numbers, but the elite outweigh the noobs on usefulness/ability.
 
            
                
                    
                    
                    
                                                            
                                                    
                                                                            
                                Server: Diabolos Game: FFXI Posts: 931 
                
			
			By Diabolos.Chupacabra 2009-07-31 14:56:11			
			
						
                     
                 I'm supposed to be on a business trip... but the lulz in this thread made me drag my laptop out. (is it sad that I follow these boards on my phone? I think so ...) 
 Korpg, is there any way you can validate your claims? I.e. can anyone post here to back you up at the very least? Cause right now you sound like the kid who thinks he is "SUPA AWESOMEZ MAX ELITE!!!" but is only tolerated because we all like to laugh at you. I think the fact that you haven't stated anything that sets you apart from a decent (read average) blm is kinda odd. Considering you claim to be pro. Have you solo'd limbus runs? Maybe done a Despot or two? Anything that gives me the inclination to nod my head towards you and your elite status?
 
 Speaking as a career BLM, I don't have Morrigan's or even much HQ stuff, but I still push out numbers. And 90% of the time, I survive to repeat it. Gear is important, but it's only 10% of the equation. You can have full Morr. and HQ everything, and still be a stupid ***that throws out AMII's one after the other til you die. That doesn't make you pro, that makes you a retard.
 
 /em waits.
 
 And side note: I think I just became a troll? o.O
 
            
                
                    
                    
                    
                                                            
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-07-31 14:57:59			
			
						
                     
                 Chupacabra said: Korpg, is there any way you can validate your claims? I.e. can anyone post here to back you up at the very least?
 
I back him up o.o                                     
            
                
                    
                    
                    
                                                            
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Diabolos.Chupacabra 2009-07-31 15:00:45			
			
						
                     
                 Seriously? I need examples! I crave verification! :D                                     
            
                
                     Asura.Korpg
                                                    
                                                                            
                                Server: Asura Game: FFXI Posts: 7782 
                
			
			By Asura.Korpg 2009-07-31 15:03:44			
			
						
                     
                 While I can't show skill, I can show damage.Example 1Example 2 And these were without my Witch Sash and Ixion Cape also, these are older SSs. I could say I solo NW Apollyon all the time, but you wouldn't believe me. I could say I solo Despot all the time, but like hell I can get claim with all these shells out here. I have solo'd Dahaks for fun though, but that wouldn't impress anyone tbh. So, I can't show skill, just damage output that is kindof old.  I could go show something newer, but satalite internet sucks....                                     
            
                
                     Asura.Korpg
                                                    
                                                                            
                                Server: Asura Game: FFXI Posts: 7782 
                
			
			By Asura.Korpg 2009-07-31 15:09:40			
			
						
                     
                 Rowland said: Ludoggy said: Chupacabra said: Korpg, is there any way you can validate your claims? I.e. can anyone post here to back you up at the very least?
 
I back him up o.oIs that helping or hurting the claims?hurting because its Ludoggy. helping because its somebody at least.                                     
            
                
                    
                    
                    
                                                            
                                                    
                                                                            
                                Server: Diabolos Game: FFXI Posts: 931 
                
			
			By Diabolos.Chupacabra 2009-07-31 15:11:21			
			
						
                     
                 Nice damage, to be sure. But, this doesn't make you elite though. It just makes you a strong BLM nuker. We all get lucky as well. With full brd or cor buffs at pudding camp, I can pull off 2100+ AMIIs in resting gear. 
 Still, nice damage.
 
 And now that that is out of the way... NW Apollyon isn't terribly difficult to solo/duo/trio, and we've done so numerous times. Despot doesn't need to be claimed, he pops claimed... so, not sure what you meant there?
 You're right on the Dahaks though, not terribly impressed on those.
 
 But that was a step in the right direction. Versus you being full of your awesomeness and being oblivious to what a jackass you sounded like. /clap
 
 But unless you have a very low standard of mage on Asura, I'm still kinda torn on giving you the thumbs up. Sorry.
 
            
                
                    
                    
                    
                                                            
                                                    
                                                                            
                                Server: Unicorn Game: FFXI Posts: 1932 
                
			
			By Unicorn.Excesspain 2009-07-31 15:12:46			
			
						
                     
                 He beat DM with 17 other BLMS! Makes him UBER                                     
            
                
                    
                    
                    
                                                            
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Diabolos.Chupacabra 2009-07-31 15:14:44			
			
						
                     
                 Excesspain said: He beat DM with 17 other BLMS! Makes him UBERLulz 18 BLM against pretty much anything just makes me giddy inside. ... except crabs with that crazy magic defense move... -.- /curse you crabs!                                     
            
                
                     Asura.Korpg
                                                    
                                                                            
                                Server: Asura Game: FFXI Posts: 7782 
                
			
			By Asura.Korpg 2009-07-31 15:20:32			
			
						
                     
                 Chupacabra said: Nice damage, to be sure. But, this doesn't make you elite though. It just makes you a strong BLM nuker. We all get lucky as well. With full brd or cor buffs at pudding camp, I can pull off 2100+ AMIIs in resting gear. 
 Still, nice damage.
 
 And now that that is out of the way... NW Apollyon isn't terribly difficult to solo/duo/trio, and we've done so numerous times. Despot doesn't need to be claimed, he pops claimed... so, not sure what you meant there?
 You're right on the Dahaks though, not terribly impressed on those.
 
 But that was a step in the right direction. Versus you being full of your awesomeness and being oblivious to what a jackass you sounded like. /clap
 
 But unless you have a very low standard of mage on Asura, I'm still kinda torn on giving you the thumbs up. Sorry.
Bolded statement: That was just by myself, no SCH/BRD/COR helping me out during those nukes, just nothing but obi/relic pants/nuking gear.  That 3.8k damage was by myself also. NW isn't hard to solo/duo/trio, I agree with that.  My shell does that all the time, when they send 3 BLMs there and the rest does something else.   But you know, you haven't validated your "claim" to being great either.  Where's your proof?                                     
            
                
                    
                    
                    
                                                            
                                                    
                                                                            
                                Server: Ramuh Game: FFXI Posts: 16303 
                
			
			By Ramuh.Sagittario 2009-07-31 15:21:59			
			
						
                     
                 Enternius said: I'm the best on Asura.
 Edit: Seriously though. Asura is statistically the worst server, being the best on Asura is like being the mayor of Doofustown.
 
 -Ducks and covers-
LOL high5                                     
            
                
                    
                    
                    
                                                            
                                                    
                                                                            
                                Server: Diabolos Game: FFXI Posts: 931 
                
			
			By Diabolos.Chupacabra 2009-07-31 15:33:48			
			
						
                     
                 Korpg said: Chupacabra said:  With full brd or cor buffs at pudding camp, I can pull off 2100+ AMIIs in resting gear. 
Bolded statement: That was just by myself, no SCH/BRD/COR helping me out during those nukes, just nothing but obi/relic pants/nuking gear.  That 3.8k damage was by myself also. But you know, you haven't validated your "claim" to being great either.  Where's your proof?I'll allow you to read my original post. Feel free to quote where I said I was great, or even implied it. Also, I think you got too excited when you bolded my statement and didn't actually read it. So, I'll help you out by re-stating it. "With full brd or cor buffs at pudding camp, I can pull off 2100+ AMIIs in resting gear." Notice that part about resting gear? That's kind of important. I had buffs, you had nuking gear. There really isn't a terrible difference there. I'm sure had I popped on my nuking gear, I could've hit 2300 ish. But really, that isn't the point. You've taken what validity you had and pompously tossed it out the window now. Learn to be more careful in what you are trying to argue. It only serves to make you look arrogant, and ignorant.                                     
            
                
                     Asura.Korpg
                                                    
                                                                            
                                Server: Asura Game: FFXI Posts: 7782 
                
			
			By Asura.Korpg 2009-07-31 15:43:59			
			
						
                     
                 Chupacabra said: And now that that is out of the way... NW Apollyon isn't terribly difficult to solo/duo/trio, and we've done so numerous times. Despot doesn't need to be claimed, he pops claimed... so, not sure what you meant there?
 You're right on the Dahaks though, not terribly impressed on those.
 
 But that was a step in the right direction. Versus you being full of your awesomeness and being oblivious to what a jackass you sounded like. /clap
 
 But unless you have a very low standard of mage on Asura, I'm still kinda torn on giving you the thumbs up. Sorry.
Chupacabra said: Speaking as a career BLM, I don't have Morrigan's or even much HQ stuff, but I still push out numbers. And 90% of the time, I survive to repeat it. Gear is important, but it's only 10% of the equation. You can have full Morr. and HQ everything, and still be a stupid ***that throws out AMII's one after the other til you die. There are your implications. Bolded sections are stronger than the non-bolded sections. But you still implied you know what you are doing. While the only number you gave was 2.1k AMII while in resting gear, you still haven't show us what a non-buffed damage for you would be.  You might not think that my damage is impressive, but until you have something else to compare it to, then you have no right to say what is/isn't impressive. In other words: Put up or shut up. :D                                     
            
                
                    
                    
                    
                                                            
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Diabolos.Chupacabra 2009-07-31 15:58:40			
			
						
                     
                 I'll assume your reading comprehension is sub-par, for your benefit. -.-
 Yes, I assure you, I DO know what I'm doing. Not because I'm elite, or even great, but simply because I'm a BLM in Endgame. I'm expected to know what the hell I'm doing so other people don't die. That's not being great/uber/elite, it's simply common sense. You take a job to 75, you should know damn well how to play it.
 
 You bolding the top part... I have no idea where you were going with that, none at all. That's merely a reflection of how you come across. So unless you have some secret mind boggling subliminal message hidden in my words, I'm not following you there.
 
 I only gave the number I did as a direct comparison to you. And only for the fact that you seem to think that big numbers = good blm. Any blm worth his salt knows this isn't the case at all. Big numbers are nice, but survivability is key. Being able to push out good damage while not pulling hate is the key to being useful to your party. Now, solo, that's all pants. Do the most damage you can. But, if you're solo, no one is there to see how awesome you are, so in effect, you aren't really awesome at all? That's a philosophical debate waiting to happen there.
 
 By all means though, continue to cherry pick and warp what people say to you. You won't be able to get past your awesomeness to see anything but what you want to see.
 
            
                
                    
                    
                    
                                                            
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Diabolos.Chupacabra 2009-07-31 16:02:15			
			
						
                     
                 Korpg said: You might not think that my damage is impressive, but until you have something else to compare it to, then you have no right to say what is/isn't impressive.
 In other words: Put up or shut up. :D
When did I say the damage wasn't impressive?! I went out of my way to say the exact opposite in fact! Took me a second to catch that. I think I'm done trying to validate this one way or the other... you're a loon.                                     
            
                
                     Asura.Korpg
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Asura.Korpg 2009-07-31 16:11:31			
			
						
                     
                 You claim to be better than me, but again, you haven't even seen me in action.
 Mind you, for all I know, you could be better than me skillwise, but until you come to Asura to prove it, that point is moot.
 
 Nice to see however, you accuse me of cherry picking little stuff, but thats exactally what you are doing.
 
            
                
                     Asura.Korpg
                                                    
                                                                            
                                Server: Asura Game: FFXI Posts: 7782 
                
			
			By Asura.Korpg 2009-07-31 16:13:55			
			
						
                     
                 Chupacabra said: Korpg said: You might not think that my damage is impressive, but until you have something else to compare it to, then you have no right to say what is/isn't impressive.
 In other words: Put up or shut up. :D
When did I say the damage wasn't impressive?! I went out of my way to say the exact opposite in fact! Took me a second to catch that. I think I'm done trying to validate this one way or the other... you're a loon.You make it sound like its not impressive.  I bet you haven't seen those types of numbers in anything at all, without being MB. My main concern about our arugument is that you are trying to sound like you are better than me without proof.  Thats what bugs me.                                     
            
                
                    
                    
                    
                                                            
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Diabolos.Chupacabra 2009-07-31 16:17:28			
			
						
                     
                 Oh lord... /facepalm.
 I didn't claim to be better than you, get over yourself.
 
 And as far as I know, I've been debating your posts as a whole. I haven't cherry picked. Again, I'm going to assume your reading comprehension is sub-par. (it'll help me sleep at night.)
 
            
                
                     Asura.Korpg
                                                    
                                                                            
                                Server: Asura Game: FFXI Posts: 7782 
                
			
			By Asura.Korpg 2009-07-31 16:21:38			
			
						
                     
                 You asked a question.
 I answered it.
 
 You didn't like the answer, so you shared your views of me.
 
 I didn't like your views, so I asked you the same question you asked me.
 
 You still haven't answered it, so you state more views of me.
 
 Thats what it all boils down to right now.
 
            
                
                    
                    
                    
                                                            
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Diabolos.Chupacabra 2009-07-31 16:32:50			
			
						
                     
                 No no, I asked for validation, you provided numbers for your damage. I stated that they were indeed, nice numbers, but was not enough to equate you as "one of the best BLM on your server". I never said anything more. You took what I said and ran allllll the way out in left field with it, and there you continue to run around. I stated my views on BLM. I fail to see what question you asked of me? except to back up my damage? If so, I don't think I have any images saved. I'm not a big screenshotter. I'm not really stating anything about me though. I wasn't the one that made the claim to greatness. You did. I don't need external validation, you do. 
 P.S. I noticed how everyone, sans me, are either smart enough to get out while they can, or at least stop caring. Point taken.
 
            
                
                     Asura.Korpg
                                                    
                                                                            
                                Server: Asura Game: FFXI Posts: 7782 
                
			
			By Asura.Korpg 2009-07-31 16:40:01			
			
						
                     
                 Then why continue posting?
 You asked for validation, all I can give you are my SSs.
 
 I even SAID thats all I can give you.  You still had to pass judgement on me without cause.
 
 I asked what your verifications were, and you JUST said you didn't have any.  So now I ask you this question: What reason do you have to pass judgement on my BLM?  You still did, regardless if you meant to or not.
 
 Anyone who asks me a question, I'll respond.  Thats the type of guy I am.
 
 I'm also the type who likes to argue, and will post as many times as needed to get my point across.  In case you haven't figured that out.
 
    
    
        
        I was just curious to see what people's thoughts were on who the best is at certain jobs on the server.  Don't just judge based on gear alone but on:
 -Gear
 -Skill
 -Attitude toward the job
 -Whatever else seems necesarry
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