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 Caitsith.Blurr
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By Caitsith.Blurr 2009-12-25 23:06:45
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Siren.Ustav said:
http://www.playonline.com/pcd/update/ff11us/20061017UJ0a71/detail.html

Towards the bottom of the page it says what Summoning magic skill effects. You can't claim something as fact just by eye balling. Thats where theres alot of moronic smns out there. GG ppl need to learn how to play their job.

his opinions are facts dude. hes godlike and the best remember ?
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By Asura.Hit 2009-12-25 23:11:42
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Ugh... I give up..
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By Siren.Ustav 2009-12-25 23:44:30
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well he IS the King Of Role Playing Games....
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By Asura.Malekith 2009-12-25 23:59:41
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Asura.Hit said:
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Blurr move to Asura already, I'd love to see you take on our nemesis in brenner SMN v. SMN

whut? Why do you hate Korpg so much?
Dude how long have you been posting on these forums? I'm the original *** grand-daddy of the I hate Korpg club. I caught on to his act wayyy before anyone else ever did. As for a particular reason? Can't say that I have only one, I'm just bigoted against stupid people...
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By Asura.Riddick 2009-12-26 07:34:42
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Best red mage I played with Slamm
Best sam I played with is Deathbringer
best overall player I played with Chrik
Its less about gear and more about how you know the game and the job u play
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By Siren.Stewie 2009-12-26 07:36:11
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Knowing the job you play is knowing how to gear the job you play.
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 Asura.Korpg
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By Asura.Korpg 2009-12-26 09:45:32
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Siren.Ustav said:
http://www.playonline.com/pcd/update/ff11us/20061017UJ0a71/detail.html

Towards the bottom of the page it says what Summoning magic skill effects. You can't claim something as fact just by eye balling. Thats where theres alot of moronic smns out there. GG ppl need to learn how to play their job.
Square.Enix said:
The summoner job has undergone the following adjustments:

The summoner pet command Blood Pact has been divided into two categories

Blood Pact: Rage (Recast time: 1 minute)
Orders the avatar to use special attacks.

Blood Pact: Ward (Recast time: 1 minute)
Orders the avatar to use support abilities.

-Blood Pact will now receive different effects when the value added by equipment or merit points exceeds the skill cap for that level.
*Players can experience increased accuracy when using Blood Pact: Rage or lengthened effect durations when using Blood Pact: Ward. The length of the duration increased varies depending on which Blood Pact is used, but will not exceed 180 seconds.
*A player whose summoning magic skill is lower than the skill cap will not experience any penalties, such as a decrease in accuracy or shortened effect durations.

-Players will now also experience increases in skill when using the Blood Pact: Rage and Blood Pact: Ward pet commands.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but where in your "source" does it say that SMN magic skill does not effect the avatars Accuracy and Attack period?

All it says is that there is an increased accuracy when using Blood Pact: Rage. It says nothing about the general accuracy/attack rating when having a skill above 269 (Summoner's general "cap" without gear or merits) for an avatar just regular old meleeing.

In case you didn't read what I said, here is it restated.
me said:
Summoning Magic skill is like Weapon Skill + gear. It affects the Attack and Accuracy of your weapon, except for a Summoner, his weapon of choice is his avatars. More Summoning Magic skill increases the Attack and Accuracy of his/her avatars, and increases the accuracy and attack of his/her Blood Pact: Rages. And increases the Magic Attack and Magic Accuracy of his/her's Blood Pact: Rage Merits.

Now, you will probably state that I was incorrect about Attack for Blood Pact: Rage, but in case you can't add 2 and 2, here's a hint: Added attack for avatars just general meleeing = added attack for avatars when they use Rage.

I have noticed this increase myself. I'm still undergoing testing to see if the general increase is like regular weapon increases. I'm guessing its the same, because it would make sense.

Now, thank you for proving my point though. You should read your "sources" more before you use it against anyone.
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By Fairy.Brenda 2009-12-26 10:00:59
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Just because skill MIGHT add attack to melee attacks, doesnt mean it WILL add attack to Blood Pacts. It would make sense, but then again, if MAB works with Quick Draw, than INT should as well.

You can't say something is true, without proving proof.
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By Asura.Korpg 2009-12-26 10:36:33
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Fairy.Brenda said:
You can't say something is true, without proving proof.
I'm going to give proof though. I'm still trying to test it out, but unfortunally I can't show anything at the moment barring situations beyond my control, and personally, I don't wish to share with people.

Probably around the end of January I will be able to show my results.

Everything I have based on are my observations though. Its hard to show results on observations that I didn't record (because I didn't think about it at the time), so I'm just stating what I observed, like what anyone else can emulate (i.e. any SMN who can, they can test it out also, but so far, only one who is attacking me is Blurr, and he is lazy as ***).

Besides, saying that it "might" add attack to melee, but it "won't" on BP:R is kindof silly. Its also saying that Attack+ gear adds damage to the mob per hit, but does nothing to the WS. (Monks have been doing it wrong for years if that was the case)
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By Fairy.Brenda 2009-12-26 10:54:29
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Don't deal in Absolutes. Its SE. Just because you think it should work doesn't mean it does.

SMN is not the same as standard DD. You are comparing magic skill to melee skill.

Its like saying well since adding H2H skill adds acc and attk, then elemental skill will add macc and mattk which we know isnt true.

And you don't want to share with people? lol That means you can make blind statements and offer no proof other than "BUT ITS WHAT I SAW!"
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By Asura.Korpg 2009-12-26 11:44:11
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Fairy.Brenda said:
Don't deal in Absolutes. Its SE. Just because you think it should work doesn't mean it does. SMN is not the same as standard DD. You are comparing magic skill to melee skill. Its like saying well since adding H2H skill adds acc and attk, then elemental skill will add macc and mattk which we know isnt true. And you don't want to share with people? lol That means you can make blind statements and offer no proof other than "BUT ITS WHAT I SAW!"
Then I ask you.

Prove me wrong.

Instead of making statements saying I'm wrong, prove it.
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By Fairy.Brenda 2009-12-26 12:12:56
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Lol i'm not the one making bold statements with no proof.

Why should I have to do your work for you?
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By Asura.Chefm 2009-12-26 12:16:38
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Chefm Sch
 Asura.Korpg
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By Asura.Korpg 2009-12-26 12:20:54
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Fairy.Brenda said:
Lol i'm not the one making bold statements with no proof. Why should I have to do your work for you?
You are right, I should have made a youtube video for each and every one of my brazen bones kills.

Damn it, I'm such an idiot.

But sarcasm aside, don't take my word for it. I'm not making bold statements, at least, not without disclaimers. I made sure to make myself clear about the fact that I have no proof outside of observations, and observations is all I can show you at the moment.

Other than that, you are attacking my observations without anything to show for it. Thats where I ask where your justifications lie. You haven't even done anything but attack me on stuff that I stated anyway.

Again, don't take my word for it.
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By Fairy.Brenda 2009-12-26 12:30:01
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Did I say anything about Brazen bones? lol

Im questioning your views on summoning magic skill since SE said what it does, but you choose to disagree.
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By Asura.Korpg 2009-12-26 12:36:05
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Fairy.Brenda said:
Did I say anything about Brazen bones? lol

Im questioning your views on summoning magic skill since SE said what it does, but you choose to disagree.
They didn't say what Summoning Magic does fully.

They stated in that one update what it would affect, not what it does.
Square.Enix said:
*Players can experience increased accuracy when using Blood Pact: Rage or lengthened effect durations when using Blood Pact: Ward. The length of the duration increased varies depending on which Blood Pact is used, but will not exceed 180 seconds.
*A player whose summoning magic skill is lower than the skill cap will not experience any penalties, such as a decrease in accuracy or shortened effect durations.

Where does it say anything about attack/accuracy of an avatar while it is meleeing?

It doesn't.

My observations were based on a situation that required me to not use Blood Pacts at all. Brazen Bones is a NM that requires a lot of kiting, and the ability to not get hate on yourself at all. If you even tried to kill it, you would understand how hard it is to kill it outside of the attempts I have made by myself in killing it, again, by myself.

If you wish to COR kite it, go ahead. I will bet you anything you can't get it past the first set of mobs you have to run it by.
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By Fairy.Brenda 2009-12-26 12:43:34
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Why do you keep bring up Brazen Bones with me? I don't *** care about that, lol.


You are saying Summoning magic skill is like melee skill that skill = acc/attk but im saying it makes more sense that its along the lines of elemental magic skill were skill = acc only and not attack.

Which makes way more since to me since there is a lot less things in this game that adds to one melee skills, then things that add to ones magic skills.
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By Gawin 2009-12-26 13:34:57
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Best RNG Alliant
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By Siren.Stewie 2009-12-26 20:28:10
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Noone cares about your Brazen Bones and eyeballed observations. If you're not going to parse x summoning magic skill over at least 1000 blood pacts, and then do y summoning magic skill the same you have no valid proof. Same summon, same mob and mob level, same blood pact, same everything other than summoning magic skill. Eyeballing your data makes everything you say null and void.
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By Asura.Charzue 2009-12-26 20:34:16
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Best whm, Domoarigato.
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By Asura.Aryd 2009-12-26 20:45:14
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Asura.Charzue said:
Best whm, Domoarigato.
IDK
Pergatory noobergoober and domo aree the top 3 whm on asura for sure.
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By Asura.Shambo 2009-12-27 15:43:59
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lol probably u
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By Asura.Calatilla 2010-01-03 02:27:09
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In my personal opinion the best Sam on Asura is Zeberdee, have u seen his dmg lately? But its not just about dmg, he knows the job very well, he`s always rdy to give advice and tips when asked, and he`s fun to be around.
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By Sylph.Jax 2010-01-03 02:32:14
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I don't think anyone can really know who is the best especially since anyone hasn't played with everyone.
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By Asura.Ramenuzumaki 2010-03-12 00:25:18
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Asura.Humtum said:
wlegs and askar bootys are not gimp.....onimaru is a decent weapon for 300tp ws so yes shutup noob(that pic was of my old toon scap if you have a look at the name:D)

OMG i hate the on00bmaru
people just use that cuz they are too damn cheap to buy anything else >.>
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By Nightbear 2010-03-12 00:44:29
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BEST PUP in asura: Me!! oh wait is locked D:
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By Asura.Xenophire 2010-03-12 00:49:45
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Asura.Ramenuzumaki said:
OMG i hate the on00bmaru
people just use that cuz they are too damn cheap to buy anything else >.>

This coming from the person who has once used one.
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By Asura.Humtum 2010-03-12 01:27:50
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Asura.Ramenuzumaki said:
Asura.Humtum said:
wlegs and askar bootys are not gimp.....onimaru is a decent weapon for 300tp ws so yes shutup noob(that pic was of my old toon scap if you have a look at the name:D)

OMG i hate the on00bmaru
people just use that cuz they are too damn cheap to buy anything else >.>

this guy has a hachiman set in his item sets >_>;;;;;;

I have a hagun, if you main sam you should be doing everything you can to cap your dmg so yes onimaru is a good option for 300 tp
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By Asura.Malekith 2010-03-12 03:37:37
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Dear god let this thread die before PorkG posts another one of his amazing feats of summonery...
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