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Best on Asura by job
Asura.Humtum
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 115
By Asura.Humtum 2009-12-24 22:42:17
af+1 was good 2 years ago
Asura.Hit
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 765
By Asura.Hit 2009-12-24 23:15:23
Asura is the only server I'd ever play on, I'll quit the game before I jump servers. Those of you saying Asura is full of selfish players have no idea what you're talking about, and those of you posting from other servers talking mess about Asura are just proof that *** exist no matter what server you're on.
Ninja Edit: Merry *** christmas.
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Server: Asura
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By Asura.Calatilla 2009-12-24 23:25:57
I think you`ll find that a majority of the asshats on Asura have migrated from a different server. Ive been on Asura 6yrs and i`ve met some good players and some downright terrible players.
You can be excellent at your job but still be a complete asshat, does it make u the best? no
And if u voted yourself as the best at your job then u obviously aint.
Self praise just gives u a big head
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Caitsith.Blurr
Server: Caitsith
Game: FFXI
Posts: 786
By Caitsith.Blurr 2009-12-25 00:10:01
Asura.Calatilla said: I think you`ll find that a majority of the asshats on Asura have migrated from a different server. Ive been on Asura 6yrs and i`ve met some good players and some downright terrible players.
You can be excellent at your job but still be a complete asshat, does it make u the best? no
And if u voted yourself as the best at your job then u obviously aint.
Self praise just gives u a big head
only one im even bashing on asura is korpg, for saying hes the best smn around there. because he posted a few screenshots of ***hes solo'd tryin to look cool, and no one has challenged his bold *** statements for some reason.. he OBVIOUSLY is the best. doesnt matter what server your on, nq average players who self proclaim themselves gods, or the best of any kind, should be called out and put in their place.
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Asura.Korpg
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 7782
By Asura.Korpg 2009-12-25 08:50:00
Why don't you show yourself soloing Brazen Bones?
IF you have solo'd him at all, like you said you have.
But then again, I doubt you can even solo Sea Horror.
OR you can just admit you are being an ***...oh wait, you do admit that. Keep calling me NQ, I don't care. You have no clue as to what it means to be a good SMN, even by looking at your gear you have no idea. So go ahead, bash me all you want.
I just hope you reflect on your words one day, and see what an idiot you have been to be honest.
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Asura.Humtum
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 115
By Asura.Humtum 2009-12-25 08:55:30
this thread will never prove who is the best by job.....
Siren.Stewie
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
Posts: 155
By Siren.Stewie 2009-12-25 09:10:19
Asura.Korpg said: Why don't you show yourself soloing Brazen Bones?
IF you have solo'd him at all, like you said you have.
But then again, I doubt you can even solo Sea Horror.
OR you can just admit you are being an ***...oh wait, you do admit that. Keep calling me NQ, I don't care. You have no clue as to what it means to be a good SMN, even by looking at your gear you have no idea. So go ahead, bash me all you want.
I just hope you reflect on your words one day, and see what an idiot you have been to be honest.
Your goal for SMN is one set of gear. If you're going to play SMN I would hope you have at least 7 sets of gear, hMP, BP-, Pet: MATT/MACC, Pet: ATT/ACC, Elemental Siphon, Idle With Avatar, and Idle Without Avatar.
Asura.Korpg
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 7782
By Asura.Korpg 2009-12-25 09:17:15
Asura.Humtum said: this thread will never prove who is the best by job..... It never would.
Siren.Stewie said: Your goal for SMN is one set of gear. If you're going to play SMN I would hope you have at least 7 sets of gear, hMP, BP-, Pet: MATT/MACC, Pet: ATT/ACC, Elemental Siphon, Idle With Avatar, and Idle Without Avatar. Thats too much gear to have/need >.>
You just need 3 sets to be honest.
hMP
BP-
Avatar perp-
If you are smart about it though. There is no need for all those sets you have talked about. Elemental Siphon gear? WTF. I think you are just naming ***out of the blue to be honest >.>
As for BP- gear, full relic is all that is needed...
hMP gear is also what I use for my BLM, except I use Evoker's Doublet +1 instead of what I use for BLM (which also happens to be AF+1 body).
Any extra gear besides that isn't that useful >.> Well, YYR yeah for walking around without an avatar, but still, thats its only use >.>
Siren.Stewie
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
Posts: 155
By Siren.Stewie 2009-12-25 09:20:33
Asura.Korpg said: Asura.Humtum said: this thread will never prove who is the best by job..... It never would.
Siren.Stewie said: Your goal for SMN is one set of gear. If you're going to play SMN I would hope you have at least 7 sets of gear, hMP, BP-, Pet: MATT/MACC, Pet: ATT/ACC, Elemental Siphon, Idle With Avatar, and Idle Without Avatar. Thats too much gear to have/need >.>
You just need 3 sets to be honest.
hMP
BP-
Avatar perp-
If you are smart about it though. There is no need for all those sets you have talked about. Elemental Siphon gear? WTF. I think you are just naming ***out of the blue to be honest >.>
As for BP- gear, full relic is all that is needed...
hMP gear is also what I use for my BLM, except I use Evoker's Doublet 1 instead of what I use for BLM (which also happens to be AF 1 body).
Any extra gear besides that isn't that useful >.> Well, YYR yeah for walking around without an avatar, but still, thats its only use >.>
Elemental Siphon gear is Summoning Skill gear which will double as Blood Pact: Ward gear. The higher your summoning skill, the more MP you get back, it also increases the cap on your Favors. You use the Blood Pact in BP- gear, then you switch into Pet: MATT/MACC or ATT/ACC depending on the ward that you are using. You can't be the "best" if you can't even understand the basics of what you should be using for the job.
Asura.Humtum
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 115
By Asura.Humtum 2009-12-25 09:41:28
your not on asura so you cant be the best >_>
maybe all our smn's don't know anything about there job
Asura.Korpg
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 7782
By Asura.Korpg 2009-12-25 10:14:41
Siren.Stewie said: Elemental Siphon gear is Summoning Skill gear which will double as Blood Pact: Ward gear. The higher your summoning skill, the more MP you get back, it also increases the cap on your Favors. You use the Blood Pact in BP- gear, then you switch into Pet: MATT/MACC or ATT/ACC depending on the ward that you are using. You can't be the "best" if you can't even understand the basics of what you should be using for the job. You don't need a seperate set though.
And you don't understand that Summoning Magic skill does MORE than just Elemental Syphon and Blood Pact: Ward.
If you are going by wiki, then you don't understand the job itself.
Summoning Magic skill is like Weapon Skill + gear. It affects the Attack and Accuracy of your weapon, except for a Summoner, his weapon of choice is his avatars. More Summoning Magic skill increases the Attack and Accuracy of his/her avatars, and increases the accuracy and attack of his/her Blood Pact: Rages. And increases the Magic Attack and Magic Accuracy of his/her's Blood Pact: Rage Merits.
You can put all the skill you want on yourself, but it will kill your -perp gear also, so you can't have your avatar out for very long.
Summoner is basically a balance, you have to find your right balance.
You can have 317 skill (which works for full Avatar's Favor, and does a huge help for Avatar Acc/Att) with perp- gear that gives you free Fenrir/Garuda/Carby/Diabolos and -2 Ifrit/Shiva/Ramuh/Titan and as much MP as you can fill for the rest of the spots that you can't fill with perp- gear or SMN magic skill gear. That would keep your avatar out as long as possible, get as much mp back from Elemental Syphon as you can, and do as much damage as possible without having to have 50 inventory spots filled, which isn't possible to have nowadays with the need to have more than 2 jobs at 75 and decent geared.
Although I don't think you have SMN leveled at all either, which makes me think that you are placing your knowledge on wiki alone. Wiki isn't 100% right, I hope you realize this.
Siren.Stewie
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
Posts: 155
By Siren.Stewie 2009-12-25 11:14:45
No it isn't from wiki alone, it's from helping multiple friends gear their SMN so that they could play it to their fullest. Yes I understand that Summoning Magic skill does more than just Siphon/Ward, but you're not going to just use one set of gear to do everything to your fullest, ***is situational. Every one of my jobs that I leveled (NIN SAM RDM) had 7+ gearsets, RDM having around 13 I believe. It's not very hard to have 7+ gearsets for a mage job, and I expected everyone I played with to have at least that.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-12-25 11:25:51
None of you guys have an E-peen as big as mine. So stop measuring!
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Siren.Stewie
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
Posts: 155
By Siren.Stewie 2009-12-25 11:37:25
I'd respond but I'm always too busy staring at your avatar.
By futchy 2009-12-25 11:39:56
Korpg stfu, Brazen bones on smn is /yawn.
Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra
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By Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra 2009-12-25 11:52:11
futchy said: Korpg stfu, Brazen bones on smn is /yawn.
Haha, you're cute.
Caitsith.Blurr
Server: Caitsith
Game: FFXI
Posts: 786
By Caitsith.Blurr 2009-12-25 14:00:59
lol korpg.. you just like hearing yourself talk... you gave two incredibly long explanations there for NOTHING. and defending only carrying a couple sets of gear ? while trying to judge my last viewed sets on ffxiah?? rather than actually checking my gear sets (like i have with you and LO *** L)..
im going to go solo bones (again lol that you even think its a feat) tonight when i get home to post some screens for you. then im going to go solo somthing way harder, post more screens, and see if you can match ok ? and if you cant, i want to hear you say, wow, you were right and i was wrong. your not only able to do things i cant, but im rethinking my whole disposition on being god like, or even the best on asura.
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Caitsith.Blurr
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By Caitsith.Blurr 2009-12-25 14:04:37
Quote: Any extra gear besides that isn't that useful >.> Well, YYR yeah for walking around without an avatar, but still, thats its only use >.>
not gonna do you any favors by explaining how HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE that is to say. just gonna point and laugh at you.
stop trying to tell others how to gear smn, how to play smn, how to do ANYTHING with smn at all, when you so obviously dont know that much about it yourself. do you think that soloing anything that takes more than an hour is what makes you skilled too btw ? i cant figure out for the life of me what you think is so special about brazen bones..
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Siren.Ustav
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
Posts: 7
By Siren.Ustav 2009-12-25 14:57:52
Quote: You don't need a seperate set though.
And you don't understand that Summoning Magic skill does MORE than just Elemental Syphon and Blood Pact: Ward.
If you are going by wiki, then you don't understand the job itself.
Summoning Magic skill is like Weapon Skill + gear. It affects the Attack and Accuracy of your weapon, except for a Summoner, his weapon of choice is his avatars. More Summoning Magic skill increases the Attack and Accuracy of his/her avatars, and increases the accuracy and attack of his/her Blood Pact: Rages. And increases the Magic Attack and Magic Accuracy of his/her's Blood Pact: Rage Merits.
You can put all the skill you want on yourself, but it will kill your -perp gear also, so you can't have your avatar out for very long.
Summoner is basically a balance, you have to find your right balance.
You can have 317 skill (which works for full Avatar's Favor, and does a huge help for Avatar Acc/Att) with perp- gear that gives you free Fenrir/Garuda/Carby/Diabolos and -2 Ifrit/Shiva/Ramuh/Titan and as much MP as you can fill for the rest of the spots that you can't fill with perp- gear or SMN magic skill gear. That would keep your avatar out as long as possible, get as much mp back from Elemental Syphon as you can, and do as much damage as possible without having to have 50 inventory spots filled, which isn't possible to have nowadays with the need to have more than 2 jobs at 75 and decent geared.
Although I don't think you have SMN leveled at all either, which makes me think that you are placing your knowledge on wiki alone. Wiki isn't 100% right, I hope you realize this.
you are a fking moron. How can u claim to be the best smn and yet have no understanding of the job. SE themselves have said skill above capp will only affect MACC/ACC on Rage and duration on Ward. Go back and learn how to play the job that you consider "the best at" lol HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE smns
Phoenix.Sector
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 40
By Phoenix.Sector 2009-12-25 15:23:23
Caitsith.Blurr said: lol korpg.. you just like hearing yourself talk...
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Asura.Korpg
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 7782
By Asura.Korpg 2009-12-25 18:08:57
Caitsith.Blurr said: lol korpg.. you just like hearing yourself talk... you gave two incredibly long explanations there for NOTHING. and defending only carrying a couple sets of gear ? while trying to judge my last viewed sets on ffxiah?? rather than actually checking my gear sets (like i have with you and LO *** L).. im going to go solo bones (again lol that you even think its a feat) tonight when i get home to post some screens for you. then im going to go solo somthing way harder, post more screens, and see if you can match ok ? and if you cant, i want to hear you say, wow, you were right and i was wrong. your not only able to do things i cant, but im rethinking my whole disposition on being god like, or even the best on asura. So, basically you are calling me out by saying you "might" try to solo a NM I solo'd myself and even given a guide in how to solo it?
Then you will say you will solo something harder?
Like what? Cerby? AV? You have no idea about anything, yet you attack me without even knowing a damn thing about anything.
Caitsith.Blurr said: Quote: Any extra gear besides that isn't that useful >.> Well, YYR yeah for walking around without an avatar, but still, thats its only use >.> not gonna do you any favors by explaining how HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE that is to say. just gonna point and laugh at you. stop trying to tell others how to gear smn, how to play smn, how to do ANYTHING with smn at all, when you so obviously dont know that much about it yourself. do you think that soloing anything that takes more than an hour is what makes you skilled too btw ? i cant figure out for the life of me what you think is so special about brazen bones..
So, tell me and everyone else how YYR > RR. Mind you, the Royal Redingote has to be geared for SMN, not for any other mage job.
You going to say that Auto-Refresh > Perp-2? Pet:Acc+15 is worse off than Avatar:Enmity? Or are you going to say that YYR has a hidden effect that makes all your avatars free with the Auto-Refresh kicking in?
Again, you attack me based on what I did, but you have yet to prove why you are better than me, like you constantly say you do. In short, you have just as much information as this guy:
futchy said: Korpg stfu, Brazen bones on smn is /yawn.
Now the question is, do you really want people to compare you to Futchy?
Siren.Ustav said: you are a fking moron. How can u claim to be the best smn and yet have no understanding of the job. SE themselves have said skill above capp will only affect MACC/ACC on Rage and duration on Ward. Go back and learn how to play the job that you consider "the best at" lol HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE smns
Where is your source? Show me where SE said that, and I will appoligize and retract my statement. This is going by observations made by me during my many kills against Brazen Bones, first with 304 SMN magic skill, then with 309 SMN magic skill (after I got my SMN earring and SMN belt), then with my 317 SMN magic skill (after I finished my merits to 8/8). I have observed an increase of percentage of Brazen Bones's death for each time I use Sublimation (a good oberservation, since nothing besides Summoning Magic Skill changed between the kills).
When I first killed Brazen Bones, I had my 304 SMN magic skill, and each sublimation took off ~10% of Brazen's health, which I timed it to be roughly 2 and a half hour kill, which my best time was just under 2 hours.
After I increased my gear to 309 (thanks to my earring and belt) I noticed an increase to ~12-13% off of Brazen's health per Sublimation. At first, I thought it was just luck, since I didn't kill Brazen that much before I got 8/8 merits. But I did take note of that and I killed it in 1 hour and 45 minutes.
When I killed Brazen after I finished my merits, and got my skill at 317, I noticed an increased time of survivabilty of my avatars (they didn't die as fast per cast) and in some cases, Fenrir survived long enough for its recast timer to reset its 30 seconds, which I was able to recast him again instead of switching to Garuda. I truly believe that Summoning Magic skill attributed to this, since this was the only factor that has changed from all previous kills. I honestly think that SMN magic skill affects Att/Acc/Eva at least. Although I did not show my findings (because I still need to test this more) to others yet, these findings are all preliminary, so don't take this to heart. My last Brazen Bones kill took me 1 hour and 26 minutes however, so there is a strong correlation between the kills.
But don't take my word for it, test it yourself if you wish. Even if I have undeniable proof, nobody would believe me anyway, because of your previous biases.
So you know what, go ahead and call me stupid. I'm doing the testing, and I'm getting the results, and I'm doing the work. All any of you are doing is bashing me for stating what I do. Thats fine by me.
Asura.Hit
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 765
By Asura.Hit 2009-12-25 19:05:09
Some of my favorite monks on Asura:
Tanbody, Okini, Axle (original one), Zekky, and Chanceikin.
Not really based off omgwtf gear, they're the nicest I've met so far.
Siren.Stewie
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
Posts: 155
By Siren.Stewie 2009-12-25 19:18:06
Korpg, that is most likely more familiarity with the fight. My first Faust kill took ~1 hour 10 minutes, in the end it was down to ~25 minutes when none of my gear/merits changed.
Caitsith.Blurr
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By Caitsith.Blurr 2009-12-25 22:09:04
i didnt say i "might" do it, read it again dude. and i called you out for claiming to be the "best" smn on asura. plain and simple, your not. just looking at your gear and hearing your testimonials, i can tell your not a nublet.. but jesus... your hardly the BEST at anything, and its *** up that anyone would ever even try to say so.. idc HOW good they are.
i god damn guarantee there is nothing you can do, that no one else on asura could. and this guide to "soloing brazen bones" lol ? where is it ? def not on wiki. i want to read your guide asap.. i want to see what you think is your own ingenuity for that solo smn nm fight. and for *** sake man, CONDENSE your posts. every god damn rebuttal of yours is like a short story.
i think you unconsciously try to cover up your stupidity with long *** rants that just bore ppl into not reading more.
and on yy v. rr.. in no way am i trying to discredit your coat, a lot of ppl do it, and its fine if you use it a lot that way. but -1 perpetuation is not worth wasting an augment on in MY opinion. you can say it is the ONLY way to go all you want, but most people will never in a million years even waste acp body on smn in first place. you however are trying to tell me that -5 bp timer, refresh effect, and + avatar enmity is worthless....
idk man, i just dont know. i already have a hard time taking you seriously, but hearing you say that yy robe is only good for standing around w/o avatar tho.... idk lol
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By Asura.Malekith 2009-12-25 22:17:43
Blurr move to Asura already, I'd love to see you take on our nemesis in brenner SMN v. SMN
Caitsith.Blurr
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Posts: 786
By Caitsith.Blurr 2009-12-25 22:24:42
Asura.Malekith said: Blurr move to Asura already, I'd love to see you take on our nemesis in brenner SMN v. SMN
asura.Korpg said: Again, you attack me based on what I did, but you have yet to prove why you are better than me, like you constantly say you do. In short, you have just as much information as this guy:
idk how i didnt catch this before, but your a *** idiot. id never of attacked you for soloing brazen bones, or any other of your "feats" ..if you want to call them that.. if you never tried to claim your the best smn on asura. that is ALLL im attacking, your conceded attitude.. not what you "did" game wise... and quote me where i said im better than you. all ive said is there is nothing you could do that i couldnt, and most likely at least SOMEONE else on asura.. that you are hardly the best at anything, and that i BET i could come up with doing something you couldnt. whatever inferences you make from that is your business, but dont try to put *** words in my mouth.
Asura.Hit
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By Asura.Hit 2009-12-25 22:28:22
Asura.Malekith said: Blurr move to Asura already, I'd love to see you take on our nemesis in brenner SMN v. SMN
whut? Why do you hate Korpg so much?
Asura.Hit
Server: Asura
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Posts: 765
By Asura.Hit 2009-12-25 22:31:50
Asura.Elpolloloco said: I was just curious to see what people's thoughts were on who the best is at certain jobs on the server. Don't just judge based on gear alone but on:
-Gear
-Skill
-Attitude toward the job
-Whatever else seems necesarry
Other favorites:
Hya for using his brd and dnc to help me and others break caps and collect AF when nobody else would.
Angelita for healing anybody she sees with low HP just because she's a whm.
Kouko for the pew pew on rng.
Buliwf for being a great drg.
Shambo and Luvbun for getting me into PVP.
Durelios for using various resources to /assist for no other reason than to help out.
Jorund for being an awesome pld.
I could go on for days. There are tons of amazing players on Asura.
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Siren.Ustav
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By Siren.Ustav 2009-12-25 22:37:47
http://www.playonline.com/pcd/update/ff11us/20061017UJ0a71/detail.html
Towards the bottom of the page it says what Summoning magic skill effects. You can't claim something as fact just by eye balling. Thats where theres alot of moronic smns out there. GG ppl need to learn how to play their job.
Asura.Hit
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By Asura.Hit 2009-12-25 23:02:28
The biggest issue I see in this game in general is nobody can say, "Hey dude; good *** job on that ***!" (That ***, being anything where the player has advanced themselves in some way.) Honestly.. can nobody else from Asura step and and point out a few ppl who have helped them out?
Ninja Edit: How about somebody you partied with who was really good at their job?
I was just curious to see what people's thoughts were on who the best is at certain jobs on the server. Don't just judge based on gear alone but on:
-Gear -Skill -Attitude toward the job -Whatever else seems necesarry
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