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Blue Mage Spells
Valefor.Omerta
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By Valefor.Omerta 2012-12-21 15:09:58
Im very new to Blu, I've farmed a LOAD of spells. Below is a list of ones I dont yet have, I was wondering, are there any actually worth going for?
For job traits, Nukes, usefulness etc etc :-)
Any Draylo's out there wanna answer?!?
Lvl
18 Blastbomb
22 Poison Breath
36 Digest
40 Terror Touch
42 Venom Shell
50 Self-Destruct
50 Frightful Roar
52 Cold Wave
52 Filamented Hold
58 Flying Hip Press
60 Dimensional Death
63 Frypan
63 Hydro Shot
65 Infrasonics
66 Sandspray
68 Warm-Up
69 Tail Slap
70 Amplification
72 Sub-zero Smash
73 Ram Charge
74 Magic Hammer
75 Exuviation
78 Regeneration
80 Demoralizing Roar
81 Final Sting
85 Fantod
90 Everyone's Grudge
90 Reaving Wind
91 Barrier Tusk
91 Mortal Ray
92 Heavy Strike
92 Water Bomb
93 Dark Orb
94 White Wind
95 Sudden Lunge
96 Quadrastrike
96 Vapor Spray
97 Thunder Breath
98 Orcish Counterstance
98 Amorphic Spikes
99 Wind Breath
99 Barbed Crescent
95 Harden Shell
96 Absolute Terror
97 Gates of Hades
97 Tourbillion
98 Pyric Bulwark
99 Bilgestorm
99 Bloodrake
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-12-21 15:15:48
Lvl
18 Blastbomb
50 Frightful Roar
52 Cold Wave
52 Filamented Hold
65 Infrasonics
66 Sandspray
69 Tail Slap
72 Sub-zero Smash
74 Magic Hammer
78 Regeneration
80 Demoralizing Roar
81 Final Sting
85 Fantod
90 Everyone's Grudge
90 Reaving Wind
91 Mortal Ray
92 Heavy Strike
92 Water Bomb
93 Dark Orb
94 White Wind
95 Sudden Lunge
96 Quadrastrike
98 Amorphic Spikes
99 Barbed Crescent
97 Gates of Hades
99 Bilgestorm
99 Bloodrake
get all of them as you can, but those are the most important of the ones listed for traits/procs/usability. refer to the sticky at the top of the section for which traits need which spells and which spells are required for procs.
Valefor.Omerta
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By Valefor.Omerta 2012-12-21 15:16:30
Still quite a lot, the bottom 3, is there anyway I can learn them solo?
Thunder Bolt for example was an *** of a spell to learn lol
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By Asura.Rucks 2012-12-21 15:16:38
Fantod, Grudge, Heavy strike, Mortal Ray, Demoralizing Roar, Sudden lunge, Amorphic, Barbed crescent.
All of the UL spells are usefull, so get those too.
But mainly, the ones I stated above, are for Dual Wield III, Triple Attack, and TH traits.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-12-21 15:18:02
Still quite a lot, the bottom 3, is there anyway I can learn them solo?
Thunder Bolt for example was an *** of a spell to learn lol
GoH would be a hard solo, I'd recommend finding someone who's spamming orthrus for Ukon or something and make them tank from the front for once.
Bilgestorm can easily be solo'd off of dvergr NMs in Aby - Vunkerl.
Bloodrake can be easily solo'd in Bostanieux Oubliette, just make sure to keep them at higher HP or they'll never use it.
By Ravenn42 2012-12-21 15:18:17
Its been said before but a good blue should want all spells. I wont go into all since you can pull up wicki and look at job traits and compare your list. I will mention a few that stick out. Dark orb since it is a vw proc and good for on shotting te in dynamis.... everyones grudge can be used to make TH trait... barbed corescent and amor spikes are very good damage spells and can be used for strong skill chains with almace and fantod I use a lot also...
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-12-21 15:19:10
dark orb isnt a proc spell
By Ravenn42 2012-12-21 15:26:23
Valefor.Prothescar said: »dark orb isnt a proc spell
Confused with death ray in VW probably sorry. It is still good for dynamis TE farming.
Valefor.Omerta
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By Valefor.Omerta 2012-12-21 15:31:12
Thanks for the great input so far peoples :D
My TP setup is weak as well:
Any easy upgrades? I dont have acsess to NNI or much VW as Ive never done either.
Im gonna work on Almace soon.
Valefor.Omerta
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By Valefor.Omerta 2012-12-21 15:34:04
It wouldnt lemme put it in the item set
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-12-21 15:35:02
It wouldnt lemme put it in the item set
edit it, it's there.
Valefor.Omerta
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By Valefor.Omerta 2012-12-21 15:36:49
So it is :D
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-12-21 15:38:35
Stone of ardor aren't too bad now at 99 cap. Bring a full eva build, strong MDT gear and blu/dnc could solo empousa for em hmm
Idk about soloing orthrus for em though I've never tried
It's soloable by dnc, so I reckon it wouldn't be that bad for blu, and you can learn gates.
Valefor.Omerta
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By Valefor.Omerta 2012-12-21 15:47:15
Id imagine though, as Im just starting Blu, trying to solo Empousa or Orthrus wouldnt be that clever lol
Cerberus.Pleebo
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2012-12-21 15:50:16
You could wait at the Orthrus pop for claw farmers and beg them for spare +2 drops and a chance to learn Gates. Remember, there's no room for dignity in FFXI.
Valefor.Omerta
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By Valefor.Omerta 2012-12-21 15:53:05
Could offer to proc yellow also :)
Valefor.Omerta
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By Valefor.Omerta 2012-12-21 17:21:34
Any Bump - Gear assist?
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By Cerberus.Diabolique 2012-12-21 17:43:58
Smart Grenade, Flame Sachet/Thunder Sachet or Mantis Eye over Mavi Tathlum for TP. Blue Skill isn't doing anything for your melee damage at least.
The great thing about VW(besides Provenance) is you don't need to be able to pop something to participate in the fight.
If you see Kaggen(Mantis Eye, Phasmida Belt could be useful) Pil(Toci's Harness, Aliyat is OK in Dynamis) shouts looking for jobs you have, and you have at least started the VW quests, try and join, you might get lucky and get something great.
I did at least 100 Pil or more before I had the ability to spawn him, Alt has no access to crap and did a ton of Akvans to.
Edit: Also, Harden Shell and Absolute Terror aren't that useful at all.
Terror isn't going to stick on pretty much anything and you'll probably never run in to a situation where you absolutely need Harden Shell(Especially over Pyric Bulwark even). But they are by far the easiest UL spells to get, with plenty of the mini-Adamantoise and Wyrms in Aby-Tahrongi.
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By Valefor.Omerta 2012-12-22 03:01:31
Cerberus.Diabolique said: »Smart Grenade, Flame Sachet/Thunder Sachet or Mantis Eye over Mavi Tathlum for TP. Blue Skill isn't doing anything for your melee damage at least.
The great thing about VW(besides Provenance) is you don't need to be able to pop something to participate in the fight.
If you see Kaggen(Mantis Eye, Phasmida Belt could be useful) Pil(Toci's Harness, Aliyat is OK in Dynamis) shouts looking for jobs you have, and you have at least started the VW quests, try and join, you might get lucky and get something great.
I did at least 100 Pil or more before I had the ability to spawn him, Alt has no access to crap and did a ton of Akvans to.
Edit: Also, Harden Shell and Absolute Terror aren't that useful at all.
Terror isn't going to stick on pretty much anything and you'll probably never run in to a situation where you absolutely need Harden Shell(Especially over Pyric Bulwark even). But they are by far the easiest UL spells to get, with plenty of the mini-Adamantoise and Wyrms in Aby-Tahrongi.
Ive not done hardly any VW, I dont have all the temp items etc. I Imagine its gonna be difficult to get VW done now?
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By Sylph.Peldin 2012-12-22 03:30:39
Valefor.Prothescar said: »Lvl
18 Blastbomb
50 Frightful Roar
52 Cold Wave
52 Filamented Hold
65 Infrasonics
66 Sandspray
69 Tail Slap
72 Sub-zero Smash
74 Magic Hammer
78 Regeneration
80 Demoralizing Roar
81 Final Sting
85 Fantod
90 Everyone's Grudge
90 Reaving Wind
91 Mortal Ray
92 Heavy Strike
92 Water Bomb
93 Dark Orb
94 White Wind
95 Sudden Lunge
96 Quadrastrike
98 Amorphic Spikes
99 Barbed Crescent
97 Gates of Hades
99 Bilgestorm
99 Bloodrake
get all of them as you can, but those are the most important of the ones listed for traits/procs/usability. refer to the sticky at the top of the section for which traits need which spells and which spells are required for procs.
I have never used or had a use for:
Tail Slap
White Wind
Final Sting
Frightful Roar
Water Bomb
They have their uses though, but I guess it just depends what you're doing with your BLU.
Its been said before but a good blue should want all spells. Wrong. That should read "An over-achiever should want all spells"
A good blue mage will set the right spells for what he/she sets out to do. There are many spells that are never the right spells to set at level 99. Thus, having them is as useful as that swift belt you have stored on your alt/in your safe. Maybe you'll use them if you do a level capped BCNM or something.
By Ravenn42 2012-12-22 11:08:11
I guess that is how the game is nowadays since people burned blue instead of grinding. Part of the fun was learning the spells and ya I dont set hardly any spells I did at 75. I still feel blues should learn all and thats my opinion doesnt make me wrong to feel that way but hey I was trying to help but whatever GL to OP in however he choosee to play the game.
By Thorbean 2012-12-22 14:32:31
White wind is epic. With a good gearset to back it up, it's a 900-1300 full party cure for ~150 MP. Since I got it, I've never taken it off. I use it even just for self healing in abby.
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By Carbuncle.Aeonknight 2012-12-22 14:57:26
White wind is epic. With a good gearset to back it up, it's a 900-1300 full party cure for ~150 MP. Since I got it, I've never taken it off. I use it even just for self healing in abby. Mind posting a gear set for that?
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By Cerberus.Smacksterr 2012-12-22 15:58:52
Carbuncle.Aeonknight said: »White wind is epic. With a good gearset to back it up, it's a 900-1300 full party cure for ~150 MP. Since I got it, I've never taken it off. I use it even just for self healing in abby. Mind posting a gear set for that?
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/282601
Forgive me for I'm not really sure how to post the image.
This is my white wind set.
Based off Max HP and Cure Potency.
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By Cerberus.Diabolique 2012-12-22 17:11:57
Cerberus.Diabolique said: »Smart Grenade, Flame Sachet/Thunder Sachet or Mantis Eye over Mavi Tathlum for TP. Blue Skill isn't doing anything for your melee damage at least.
The great thing about VW(besides Provenance) is you don't need to be able to pop something to participate in the fight.
If you see Kaggen(Mantis Eye, Phasmida Belt could be useful) Pil(Toci's Harness, Aliyat is OK in Dynamis) shouts looking for jobs you have, and you have at least started the VW quests, try and join, you might get lucky and get something great.
I did at least 100 Pil or more before I had the ability to spawn him, Alt has no access to crap and did a ton of Akvans to.
Edit: Also, Harden Shell and Absolute Terror aren't that useful at all.
Terror isn't going to stick on pretty much anything and you'll probably never run in to a situation where you absolutely need Harden Shell(Especially over Pyric Bulwark even). But they are by far the easiest UL spells to get, with plenty of the mini-Adamantoise and Wyrms in Aby-Tahrongi.
Ive not done hardly any VW, I dont have all the temp items etc. I Imagine its gonna be difficult to get VW done now? Ascetic's(Any Tier one Zilart) and Fanatics(Bastok Tier II I think) would be the most important temps for Blu in VW(For what they are invited for).
Both of those can actually be done lowman if you have some friends or maybe shout just a little bit. It is going to be harder than ever to really make progress with voidwatch though, so many are finished and there's no incentive to go back and do lower tiers at all.
Unless you want to do Provenance(Honestly can't remember if it's Provenance or Providence) it's not incredibly important to get all the clears, besides the useful warps(which can be solved with other transportation methods, some VW warps suck actually).
By Thorbean 2012-12-22 20:44:44
Cerberus.Smacksterr said: »
Forgive me for I'm not really sure how to post the image.
This is my white wind set.
Based off Max HP and Cure Potency.
You just put the number at the end of the http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/282601 inside [itemset][/ itemset] tags.
Very nice set, mines similar but missing a couple of pieces (homam, my luck sucks).
Also looking at laying my hands on a bomb queen ring soon.
You can make a pretty decent set for very little on the AH too.
Im very new to Blu, I've farmed a LOAD of spells. Below is a list of ones I dont yet have, I was wondering, are there any actually worth going for?
For job traits, Nukes, usefulness etc etc :-)
Any Draylo's out there wanna answer?!?
Lvl
18 Blastbomb
22 Poison Breath
36 Digest
40 Terror Touch
42 Venom Shell
50 Self-Destruct
50 Frightful Roar
52 Cold Wave
52 Filamented Hold
58 Flying Hip Press
60 Dimensional Death
63 Frypan
63 Hydro Shot
65 Infrasonics
66 Sandspray
68 Warm-Up
69 Tail Slap
70 Amplification
72 Sub-zero Smash
73 Ram Charge
74 Magic Hammer
75 Exuviation
78 Regeneration
80 Demoralizing Roar
81 Final Sting
85 Fantod
90 Everyone's Grudge
90 Reaving Wind
91 Barrier Tusk
91 Mortal Ray
92 Heavy Strike
92 Water Bomb
93 Dark Orb
94 White Wind
95 Sudden Lunge
96 Quadrastrike
96 Vapor Spray
97 Thunder Breath
98 Orcish Counterstance
98 Amorphic Spikes
99 Wind Breath
99 Barbed Crescent
95 Harden Shell
96 Absolute Terror
97 Gates of Hades
97 Tourbillion
98 Pyric Bulwark
99 Bilgestorm
99 Bloodrake
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