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[Dev] Nyzul Isle Uncharted Adjustments
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2012-11-22 15:38:18
I'm not surprised you would assume I used hacks in nyzul. I'm not surprised you don't believe I didn't use fleehacks. I don't care to change your mind, and if it'll make you feel better to consider this an admission go for it.
However, it has ZERO relevance to the topic at hand. Nynja jumped my ***because apparently the screenshot I posted upset him enough that he wanted to bring it back up. I said nothing about win rates, ease, etc in my first post, just that their setup was capable of winning and a couple small tips for improving output.
I could be running around at 600% with full clipping every nyzul run, or I could have never set foot in nyzul and have read the specs enough to understand it. It does not matter. You will save time if your DD are aware of damage weaknesses. You will save time if DD keep an eye out for SC opportunities(side targeting a WS on a NM to SC is nice in the smaller rooms). You will save time if your DD are alert and engage quicker. These are obviously true, regardless of anything I've done.. so why the hell is there a whole page of people whining about bots..?
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2012-11-22 16:31:16
ya I'm totes butthurt bro, "ujellyfag", totally. Could you not come up with anything better, bro?
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By Odin.Valdor 2012-11-22 16:57:16
Blaming the bots is easy. Anyone with half a brain knows SE monitors for speed hacking. As for .dat swaping and fillmode. Both are nice to have but doesn't insure a win. A team that knows how to work together will get wins.
-DD's seperating
-lamp communication
-SCH's learning to assist DD's
-Flee Boots to buy time
The list of stuff is endless to buy your team a few minutes. Skype, 4 DD (War, Sam, Mnk, Drk), 2 SCH's (both with AF+2 hands and 475+ Enhancing) and communications.
Ragnarok.Systemx
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By Ragnarok.Systemx 2012-11-22 17:15:03
IDK i paid a group to merc NNI for me and they clip/speed hack the hell out of it and even with all that its hard to win sometimes. Lamps are the worst when its 5 lamps and order that pretty much can break a run with bad luck. Lamps are just too stupid and should be removed. The cool down time for them also is killer. One time we did order 1 2 3 4 5 > 2 3 4 5 1 > 3 4 5 1 2 > 4 5 1 2 3 > 5 1 2 3 4 till we got teh order right it took 5 frikin tries to get the order really? that was like 3-4 mins down the drain. Not only once did we get 5 lamp order but twice. Limit it to 3 or even 4 will help drastically.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-11-22 17:33:20
Why are these arguments over NNI still going on? Its not like anything new can be said that wasn't said 6 months ago.
Bismarck.Ihina
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2012-11-22 17:36:59
Because some people still can't beat NNI so they need an outlet for their frustration.
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Bismarck.Helel
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By Bismarck.Helel 2012-11-22 17:37:41
It was quiet for a little over a week and then some tard had to bump it again. Same thing on BG. Good times.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-11-22 17:44:25
Bumping a purple thread without official news should result in a ban from the internet.
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Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2012-11-22 17:55:58
Because some people still can't beat NNI so they need an outlet for their frustration.
Main char: 10/15 NNI (no Nares, but my main doesnt play mage jobs)
Alt 1 (Mageries, but has a Masa for lulz): 14/15 (missing Phor legs)
Alt 2 (mage+melee, Vere + WoE Gax: 13/15 (missing Phor Body for some reason, Nares Body)
You said something about the skill-less venting frustration due to being unable to win? I'm pretty much done, it doesnt change the fact its a shitty event based primarily on luck.
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-11-22 18:02:59
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »O...K...
I gave some advice that had 0 relation to third party programs. Why are you so hellbent on turning the conversation to the fact that I use some amount of programs completely unknown to you? Regardless of what I say, you guys keep tunnel visioning on that.
Do you want a list of every program I use? Does it matter? Would you trust that list? Would anyone? Who the hell cares?
I just don't understand how my bot use or lack thereof is relevant to situational awareness in nyzul..?
Your Awareness theory with weapon bonus damage don't work. Its true that It can save time if you can apply it but 90%+ of the groups that are 15/15 (claim to be legit) were 4x Slashing Weapons DD (any combination of GS/Scythe/GA) and 2x SCH, so yea I guess they don't have any option with that. My group had no problems winning with 2 MNK.
Quote: If we know you used bots(becase is not human possible to control 5-6 accounts at same time in an event where you have to practically pay attention on each one) You can control multiple characters without even alt tabbing without a bot.
Bismarck.Ihina
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2012-11-22 18:12:04
I know who you are, Nynja. I've also watched you whine about various aspects of the game for several years now. You're just a special case.
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Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2012-11-22 18:35:22
I know who you are, Nynja. I've also watched you whine about various aspects of the game for several years now. You're just a special case. Yeah, I been "whining", and yet in that time, you've still only got 1 job at 99...and it seems no Thaumas either.
You can control multiple characters without even alt tabbing without a bot. Yes, you can. But you're not 6boxing PW without bots automating commands. Even if you macroed all your dualsend commands to operate on 1 main character, its not happening.
Bismarck.Ihina
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2012-11-22 18:37:20
If you're going to attack me for my gear, you might want to reconsider.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-11-22 18:38:56
I know who you are, Nynja. I've also watched you whine about various aspects of the game for several years now. You're just a special case. Yeah, I been "whining", and yet in that time, you've still only got 1 job at 99...and it seems no Thaumas either.
doesnt change the fact that you whine a lot.
Ragnarok.Hotkarl
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By Ragnarok.Hotkarl 2012-11-22 18:41:23
I know who you are, Nynja. I've also watched you whine about various aspects of the game for several years now. You're just a special case. Yeah, I been "whining", and yet in that time, you've still only got 1 job at 99...and it seems no Thaumas either. Then I'm sure that 1 job is quite good. Multiple jobs don't make ppl a better player. I've got a few I've lvld outta boredom, geared ok and will never touch again lol.
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-11-22 18:45:32
You can control multiple characters without even alt tabbing without a bot. Yes, you can. But you're not 6boxing PW without bots automating commands. Even if you macroed all your dualsend commands to operate on 1 main character, its not happening. You can, and it's not that difficult.
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2012-11-22 18:46:11
Bitching about how NNI's a fked up event is whining? I guess it is...maybe because it IS a fked up event, otherwise SE wouldnt be adjusting the jumps, wouldnt be adjusting lamp lockout times.
Anything else? ADL being a crapshoot? Hey it is a crapshoot. Mythic acquisition, more specifically, Alexandrites? You're going to tell me that 400 Salvage runs is legitimate for a Mythic weapon? Pulse weapon drop rates? You think 0.07% on Coruscanti is acceptable? 0.05% on Muresamamaru is ok? Anything else? If you're going to make bold statements like that, you should back them up.
If you're going to attack me for my gear, you might want to reconsider. Its not on your profile page, so it may have never caught it, but it caught your Houyi's Gorget, a Resolute Belt?, Nomkhapa's, Athos...?
You can, and it's not that difficult. Cmon man, theres trolling to troll, and theres just asinine comments.
Bismarck.Ihina
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2012-11-22 18:51:58
Yeah, it does pick up random pieces of gear, here and there.
Again, you might not want to go down this route.
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-11-22 18:57:06
You can, and it's not that difficult. Cmon man, theres trolling to troll, and theres just asinine comments. You troll yourself, I don't even have to do anything.
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2012-11-22 19:32:27
kay lol
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By Asura.Aikchan 2012-11-22 19:32:27
hmmmmm. I totally forgot the point of this Thread lol :P
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10-26-2012 8:27 AM | Slycer | BG Translator | |
| | Regarding Nyzul Isle Uncharted Area Survey
In addition to reducing the number of required astraria at each hierarchy, we have also decided to perform the following adjustments to increase the likelihood of clears. These adjustments are not yet reflected on the test server.
Raising the upper limit on "Advance ??? floors"
To slightly increase the opportunity to advance to floor 100, we will increase the maximum number of levels warped from 9 to 11.
Adjusting the Reaction Time of Runic Lamps
So that lamps inhibit the run time as little as possible, we will make the following changes to waiting time:
*"Same Time" lamps: Reduce waiting time for reactivation from 30 seconds to 15 seconds
*"Order" lamps: Reduce judgment time of correct order from 12 seconds to 7 seconds
Adjusting the Astraria in Possession to the New Amount
The test server currently reflects the following numbers (see post above this one, the one where you divide by 5 and round down).
We plan to change this to:
0 > 0
1~6 > 1
7~12 > 2
13~18 > 3
19~24 > 4
25 > 5
Changing Jobs that Can Use Powder Boots
There is a concern that the jobs on Powder Boots influence the jobs utilized for this assault and we have received a lot of feedback on this. We plan to change Powder Boots to "All Jobs" on a trial basis. This adjustment is not yet reflected on the test server.
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11-08-2012 08:01 AM | Slycer | BG Translator | |
| | Regarding Powder Boots for All Jobs
Hello-
Thank you for the various suggestions regarding putting all jobs on Powder Boots. There were a lot of pros and cons, and we want to let you know that we will forgo this adjustment in the next version update.
This is because that there is a possibility that other problems may be caused by changing Powder Boots before first seeing the results of the adjustments to the content itself, and also because there were many suggestions that any adjustments to ease content should be made to the content itself.
Once we reflect on the effects of the content adjustment, we can take another look at whether we want to make changes to Powder Boots or adjust the content further.
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11-08-2012 02:20 PM | Camate | Community Rep | |
| | Greetings!
As there has been a large amount of feedback and requests to make direct adjustments to end-game content, and there is also a concern that making changes to Powder Boots before seeing the results of content adjustments could cause separate issues to arise, the development team has decided that they will not be making adjustments to Powder Boots to enable all jobs to equip them in the next version update.
With that said, we will first be making adjustments to content, and based on what we see from that we will look into whether more content adjustments are needed, if Powder Boots should be changed after all, or if jobs need to be addressed. | |
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