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 Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2012-10-18 13:05:32
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Finally got round to doing these missions over the last week or so, and completed the final mission last night.

I was wondering just how useful this earring is now at Level 99. My jobs are DRK THF BST and COR. My DRK is my main, so the Regain looks nice, but there might be other gear that beats it (bare in mind I am still working on Empyreans before I begin doing Voidwatch regularly) so I am not sure whether it would be a waste.

I feel it would be fairly useless to a THF or BST, but without searching through tons of older posts, I cannot be completely sure.

My Corsair is still a work in progress, and will start using it in VW when I get my Armageddon.
I am grateful for any advice, before I head over to Grauberg and finish this storyline. Thanks!
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By Avitori 2012-10-18 13:08:03
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TP Bonus + 25 Att, Regain is for noobs.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2012-10-18 13:08:56
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Yes I thought I read that somewhere. Why is Regain so bad, and TP Bonus so good?
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2012-10-18 13:11:41
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I was doing the Missions with my father, and he was wondering what augments to get as well. He is mostly after a SMN piece, and he was thinking about getting Refresh on it, but it just doesn't sound like a good idea to me. I could be wrong though.
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By Valentine 2012-10-18 13:12:01
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Avitori said: »
TP Bonus + 25 Att, Regain is for noobs.

Moonshade Earring
Attack+4
TP Bonus+25 is for the winners.
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By Valentine 2012-10-18 13:14:37
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Cerberus.Kylos said: »
My Corsair is still a work in progress, and will start using it in VW when I get my Armageddon.
Man, please don't do it get ur COR to work now! how many shouts have COR as last jobs lol usually it's COR and BLU for obvious reasons...
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By Leviathan.Celille 2012-10-18 13:16:51
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Refresh is good if you fulltime mage jobs. Other than that get TP bonus.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2012-10-18 13:19:50
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Valentine said: »
Cerberus.Kylos said: »
My Corsair is still a work in progress, and will start using it in VW when I get my Armageddon.
Man, please don't do it get ur COR to work now! how many shouts have COR as last jobs lol usually it's COR and BLU for obvious reasons...

Well I have my Cara Gems waiting to go, I just have to work through some more NM trials, get my Gun up to 80, and do the big fish to 85 it. I wouldn't waste my bullets and time using a Corsair that doesn't have Wildfire.

Thanks for the advice. So I should use Moonshade earring in TP set for DRK? How does it compare to Ghillie Earring +1?

Also is there any awesome combinations for a SMN? I would like to be able to let my father know what he should get when he gets home tonight. Should he just get MP and Refresh??
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By Siren.Calnus 2012-10-18 13:21:27
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Leviathan.Celille said: »
Refresh is good if you fulltime mage jobs. Other than that get TP bonus.
If you utilize spellcast for a precast then the occ. quickens spellcasting +3% destroys refresh especially since it doesn't give you refresh while resting. If you pair all the occ gear you can get up to 9% which is almost like a perma-mini apocalypse atma. But for full time SMN where you don't touch any other mage job (for whatever reason?), then I suppose refresh would be the way to go.
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By Valentine 2012-10-18 13:22:08
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Cerberus.Kylos said: »
Yes I thought I read that somewhere. Why is Regain so bad, and TP Bonus so good?

We all work to have a strong WS... that's why we make such good weapons... this Earring is a big boom for WS's.
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By Avitori 2012-10-18 13:22:48
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Cerberus.Kylos said: »
So I should use Moonshade earring in TP set for DRK?

Weaponskill only.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2012-10-18 13:22:56
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Siren.Calnus said: »
Leviathan.Celille said: »
Refresh is good if you fulltime mage jobs. Other than that get TP bonus.
If you utilize spellcast for a precast then the occ. quickens spellcasting +3% destroys refresh especially since it doesn't give you refresh while resting. If you pair all the occ gear you can get up to 9% which is almost like a perma-mini apocalypse atma.

I dont use Spellcast although I am on a PC. My father plays on the Xbox, and even if he did play on the PC, he would be clueless when it comes to anything like Spellcast :P

He does use WHM BLM and SMN. He also has WAR as his main, but he wants a mage piece, mostly for SMN.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2012-10-18 13:23:42
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Avitori said: »
Cerberus.Kylos said: »
So I should use Moonshade earring in TP set for DRK?

Weaponskill only.

So use Brutal and Ghillie for TP, and Brutal and Moonshade for WS?
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By Bahamut.Bekisa 2012-10-18 13:24:52
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TP bonus really depends on what you use it for and what those TP mods are (and what other options you have available).

I took refresh and magic acc. I have melee and mage jobs so it wasn't an easy choice. So when you see the Rag DRK or BLU idling in Moonshade, that's why!
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By Valefor.Esdain 2012-10-18 13:26:15
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How do you use your BST and do you /WHM it? If so... boring MP and refresh.

If you have twilight set, disregard.
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By Siren.Mcclane 2012-10-18 13:26:34
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Cerberus.Kylos said: »
Avitori said: »
Cerberus.Kylos said: »
So I should use Moonshade earring in TP set for DRK?

Weaponskill only.

So use Brutal and Ghillie for TP, and Brutal and Moonshade for WS?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Bale Earring pretty damn sexy for tp?
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2012-10-18 13:28:07
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Bahamut.Bekisa said: »
TP bonus really depends on what you use it for and what those TP mods are (and what other options you have available).

I took refresh and magic acc. I have melee and mage jobs so it wasn't an easy choice. So when you see the Rag DRK or BLU idling in Moonshade, that's why!

I see what you mean. I don't have any TP bonus gear for DRK. Also I use Redemption and Jingang Greatsword with Resolution (depending on what I am fighting).

Will be working on Fulgurante, maybe Ragnarok down the line, after finishing Redemption and Armageddon at 90.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2012-10-18 13:28:45
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Siren.Mcclane said: »
Cerberus.Kylos said: »
Avitori said: »
Cerberus.Kylos said: »
So I should use Moonshade earring in TP set for DRK?

Weaponskill only.

So use Brutal and Ghillie for TP, and Brutal and Moonshade for WS?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Bale Earring pretty damn sexy for tp?

Ah yes I forgot about my Bale. I guess I can ditch Ghillie on DRK then and just use it on my other jobs.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2012-10-18 13:29:30
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Valefor.Esdain said: »
How do you use your BST and do you /WHM it? If so... boring MP and refresh.

If you have twilight set, disregard.

I have never used /whm since I levelled it. Only /dnc or /nin depending on the situation. Got full twilight set last year.
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By Demule 2012-10-18 13:32:52
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Cerberus.Kylos said: »
I wouldn't waste my bullets and time using a Corsair that doesn't have Wildfire.

Shouldn't underestimate a COR with Last Stand and Steel/O bullets. Depending on the mob, I have hit 2k-4k decently easy~

If you like COR no reason to wait until all your nms are done to use it with Last Stand.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2012-10-18 13:37:14
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Demule said: »
Cerberus.Kylos said: »
I wouldn't waste my bullets and time using a Corsair that doesn't have Wildfire.

Shouldn't underestimate a COR with Last Stand and Steel/O bullets. Depending on the mob, I have hit 2k-4k decently easy~

If you like COR no reason to wait until all your nms are done to use it with Last Stand.

Yes, but I just dont feel like meriting the WS. I have Entropy and Resolution on DRK, as well as Ruinator for my BST (Had to ditch Exenterator for that). I wish they just give us more points to spend on Weapon Skills lol.

My COR is still fairly new, and missing some things, and I am still getting to grips with keeping up rolls and DDing with it. Its something I don't really need to use right now, because I still have some Abyssea things to polish off, some BST gear to get, as well as make money for better gears on all jobs.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2012-10-18 13:39:46
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Ok so I have decided. Moonshade Earring for me, TP Bonus +25, Attack +4.

Any advice for my dad? He wants a SMN piece but also uses WHM and BLM. MP and Refresh good enough for that slot?
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By Siren.Kyte 2012-10-18 13:43:24
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Also, the Regain earring doesn't typically change the number of rounds (in a way that couldn't just be done through STP gear) to 100%, particularly when under large amounts of haste.


If you have a melee job that you care about whatsoever, get the TP bonus Moonshade earring. The only exceptions I can think of off the top of my head are MNK (w/ Spharai) and BST. Your main is DRK, which makes excellent use of it, so this should be a no-brainer.
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By Siren.Kyte 2012-10-18 13:43:52
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Refresh for your dad for sure.
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By Valefor.Altheav 2012-10-18 13:43:53
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Well, since there's a thread for this now, I might as well ask my question, too.

I made an MP/Refresh earring, which was useful at the time. These days I only pull it out when I'm on SMN. So I want to remake it as a TP Bonus.

Trying to decide what to do for the second augment. I mostly play mage jobs. Is the Magic Accuracy really good? If so then I might do Magic Acc/TP Bonus, even though that's a weird combination.

If the magic acc's not worth it, I'll do attack/TP bonus.

One other question: do I need to redo the fight when I recreate the earring, or is it just a matter of checking some cutscenes?
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2012-10-18 13:45:54
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Siren.Kyte said: »
Also, the Regain earring doesn't typically change the number of rounds (in a way that couldn't just be done through STP gear) to 100%, particularly when under large amounts of haste.


If you have a melee job that you care about whatsoever, get the Moonshade earring. The only exceptions I can think of off the top of my head are MNK (w/ Spharai) and BST. Your main is DRK, which makes excellent use of it, so this should be a no-brainer.

So the TP Bonus +25 Attack +4 would be excellent for my dads Ukon WAR as well? If so, I may have to strongly encourage him to get that over a Mage piece.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2012-10-18 13:48:47
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Valefor.Altheav said: »
Well, since there's a thread for this now, I might as well ask my question, too.

I made an MP/Refresh earring, which was useful at the time. These days I only pull it out when I'm on SMN. So I want to remake it as a TP Bonus.

Trying to decide what to do for the second augment. I mostly play mage jobs. Is the Magic Accuracy really good? If so then I might do Magic Acc/TP Bonus, even though that's a weird combination.

If the magic acc's not worth it, I'll do attack/TP bonus.

One other question: do I need to redo the fight when I recreate the earring, or is it just a matter of checking some cutscenes?

Wiki: Re-obtaining With New Augments

You may obtain a new Moonshade Earring by tossing your current one and checking the ??? next to the Veridical Conflux in Grauberg. This will reset your current WotG mission to Maiden of the Dusk where you will have to redo the fight and obtain the Moonshade Earring along with all cutscenes.

The fight is soloable by BST and other jobs.
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By Siren.Kyte 2012-10-18 13:49:22
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I would ya, unless he really only uses his mage jobs.
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By Siren.Kyte 2012-10-18 13:50:17
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Valefor.Altheav said: »
Well, since there's a thread for this now, I might as well ask my question, too.

I made an MP/Refresh earring, which was useful at the time. These days I only pull it out when I'm on SMN. So I want to remake it as a TP Bonus.

Trying to decide what to do for the second augment. I mostly play mage jobs. Is the Magic Accuracy really good? If so then I might do Magic Acc/TP Bonus, even though that's a weird combination.

If the magic acc's not worth it, I'll do attack/TP bonus.

One other question: do I need to redo the fight when I recreate the earring, or is it just a matter of checking some cutscenes?

There are plenty of other good macc earrings, so I wouldn't worry about using Moonshade for that.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2012-10-18 13:51:57
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Siren.Kyte said: »
I would ya, unless he really only uses his mage jobs.

He loves his Warrior and is pretty powerful with that Ukon. I think he uses Brutal and Ravagers for WS (Might be wrong on that), so I guess he would switch out Ravager's for Moonshade in WS for Ukkos Fury?
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