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 Ragnarok.Raenil
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2013-08-22 18:38:10
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Your FACE is a terrible thing.
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By Quiznor 2013-08-22 18:55:55
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Ragnarok.Raenil said: »
Your FACE is a terrible thing.

Nothing new there!
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-08-23 15:33:29
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"If you feel that new Lightning is slightly less masculine, or she's a little bit more girly, it's because of two reasons: I think in Lightning Returns, we want to depict her in different lights, not just as one single character behaving the same way all the way through [the Final Fantasy 13 games]. We get to see her and experience different sides and elements of her, maybe one of them being fairly feminine and girly."

"The other reason I can't get very much into without spoiling the story, but in Lightning Returns' story, Lightning has lost a lot of valuable things in her life. That sense of loss might come across here as a kind of vulnerable part of her character. Maybe that's why you could think she seems a bit more feminine."

tldr: excuses for turning it into Fashion Fantasy XIII.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2013-08-23 15:41:34
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I thought SE's excuse was having more than 16 colors to work with.
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By Sylph.Jrpg 2013-08-23 15:50:59
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Honestly, the "dress-up" aspect of the game really made it more appealing for me. I loved the dresspheres in X-2 and I'm getting the same vibe from this game.

Yeah it's gratuitous, doesn't really fit the character, and it's a cheap ploy, but I'm kind of a sucker for that, I guess.
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2013-08-23 15:51:09
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Whats wrong with the way she looks? looks the same/fine to me.
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By ScaevolaBahamut 2013-08-23 16:03:40
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Asura.Ina said: »
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She was terrible because there was no explanation for why she was such an ***.

There was a book released in Japan taking place before the game starts, reading it gives a ton more insight into the characters and shows several events that were not shown in the game.

so you're saying that the people responsible for ff13 are such terrible storytellers they needed to write (license) entirely different material to adequately explain the motivations of the characters they'd written several dozen hours of dialogue for

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By Kalila 2013-08-23 16:08:49
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I would actually prefer that they release books about their games, it would give them reason to focus on their story and make it good, plus it would be fun to read them as well.

I'm not saying that you would have to play both the game an read the book to get the full story, that is completely the opposite of what I'm saying. That just shows bad planning and design.
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By Asura.Ina 2013-08-23 16:11:02
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ScaevolaBahamut said: »
Asura.Ina said: »
Bismarck.Helel said: »
She was terrible because there was no explanation for why she was such an ***.

There was a book released in Japan taking place before the game starts, reading it gives a ton more insight into the characters and shows several events that were not shown in the game.

so you're saying that the people responsible for ff13 are such terrible storytellers they needed to write (license) entirely different material to adequately explain the motivations of the characters they'd written several dozen hours of dialogue for

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More that they expanded on the universe using a different medium that portray the characters in ways that just dialogue and actions can not. Really not an uncommon thing these days.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2013-08-23 16:22:50
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Sylph.Jrpg said: »
Honestly, the "dress-up" aspect of the game really made it more appealing for me. I loved the dresspheres in X-2 and I'm getting the same vibe from this game.

Yeah it's gratuitous, doesn't really fit the character, and it's a cheap ploy, but I'm kind of a sucker for that, I guess.


Hey, if that's what people actually like, then it's their right to buy it. It's easy to criticize the "dress up" aspect of something like X-2 until upon a quite moment of reflection, you realize you just spent 30minutes seeing what gear goes well with what helmet in Skyrim.
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By Quiznor 2013-08-23 16:23:51
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Odin.Zicdeh said: »
Sylph.Jrpg said: »
Honestly, the "dress-up" aspect of the game really made it more appealing for me. I loved the dresspheres in X-2 and I'm getting the same vibe from this game.

Yeah it's gratuitous, doesn't really fit the character, and it's a cheap ploy, but I'm kind of a sucker for that, I guess.


Hey, if that's what people actually like, then it's their right to buy it. It's easy to criticize the "dress up" aspect of something like X-2 until upon a quite moment of reflection, you realize you just spent 30minutes seeing what gear goes well with what helmet in Skyrim.

Played in first person,solved.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2013-08-23 16:39:01
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Forced killcams. Your move.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2013-08-23 16:40:06
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Non-violent playthrough
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By Quiznor 2013-08-23 16:40:44
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Odin.Zicdeh said: »
Forced killcams. Your move.

Too busy looking at the killcam than me in the distance and/or for that split second.

Also,I have testicles,fashion is of no concern to me
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2013-08-23 16:54:12
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Quiznor said: »
Odin.Zicdeh said: »
Forced killcams. Your move.


Also,I have testicles,fashion is of no concern to me


Technically a logical fallacy (Begging the question) since you're basing your conclusion on the claim that a sharply dressed male is less likely to get laid.


Bismarck.Dracondria said: »
Non-violent playthrough

Now that's a checkmate, although I'd ask what's the point of even playing the game if neither looks nor combat effectiveness is a driving force.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2013-08-23 16:55:27
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Exploration and story/lore, maybe? I've never done the Pacifist Playthrough myself
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By Quiznor 2013-08-23 16:59:13
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I'll edit my post to show what I meant more accurately.

Odin.Zicdeh said: »
Quiznor said: »
Odin.Zicdeh said: »
Forced killcams. Your move.


Also,I have testicles,fashion is of no concern to me


Technically a logical fallacy (Begging the question) since you're basing your conclusion on the claim that a sharply dressed male is less likely to get laid.

Fashion is of no concern to me in a video game that offers no measurable benefit outside aesthetics
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2013-08-23 16:59:18
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Bismarck.Dracondria said: »
Exploration and story/lore, maybe? I've never done the Pacifist Playthrough myself


Pacifism and exploration don't go together naturally though. The very idea of exploring is founded in conflict, against man, nature and the elements.

And the Story and Lore are all founded in violence, it is Skyrim after all.

I know we're getting into derail territory now, but only in Morrowind was it truly possible to have a pacifist character, as many of the narratives (Namely Hlaalu, Thieves Guild, Mage's Guild) could be resolved without battle.

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I'll edit my post to show what I meant more accurately.

Odin.Zicdeh said: »
Quiznor said: »
Odin.Zicdeh said: »
Forced killcams. Your move.


Also,I have testicles,fashion is of no concern to me


Technically a logical fallacy (Begging the question) since you're basing your conclusion on the claim that a sharply dressed male is less likely to get laid.

Fashion is of no concern to me in a video game that offers no measurable benefit outside aesthetics


See, now I got nothin' else I can say as a direct response. That said 'fashion' really depends on the game, in Skyrim, the only real difference (Thanks to the hilariously broken smithing mechanics) between armor is how they look.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2013-08-23 17:01:04
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Well there is a pacifist thing in Skyrim, I'm not sure how much killing you're actually forced to do though
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2013-09-14 09:28:01
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2013-09-14 09:32:59
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By Bahamut.Lordzetta 2013-09-14 09:36:31
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Evertime I see new news on this game all that comes to mind is that the title should be Final Fantasy XIII Lightning's Wardrobe.
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By Carbuncle.Lynxblade 2013-09-14 10:00:58
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this game is going to suck balls...like ff13 and 13-2, finish this pos and work on ff15 or ffvs13 whatever its called...
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2013-09-14 11:54:28
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yeah, looks like ***. 13 has become a filler series.
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By Bahamut.Zellc 2013-09-14 21:32:13
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If the wardrobes were pertinent to the job/roles she would need in battle, it would be called for. That was just excessive for no real reason.
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By Asura.Natenn 2013-09-14 21:47:32
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anyone else think they just copyied her? lol
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2013-09-15 16:09:10
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Yo some people pay for dress up games and you get one for free within an RPG. So many mads.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2013-09-15 16:15:50
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Lightning returns is free? That would be the only reason to get it.
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By Bismarck.Ariyon 2013-09-15 17:42:46
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XIII... was alright. Other than the fact that there was no real "free roam" until you were near the end of the game, and the fact that you were forced to constantly change party members until you reached Pulse, it was a fairly enjoyable experience for me. (I understand that this was for the sake of telling the same story from multiple perspectives, but the changes happened so frequently that after the first few chapters it really started to piss me off.)
XIII-2 I own, but have not played. I've watched my brother play it for several hours and the whole notion of "travel through time to fix everything" just didn't sit well with me, though that's probably just the lingering effects of their time travel usage with the WotG storyline.

Overall I can't say I have high hopes for Lightning Returns, but we'll see. Once the price drops I'll probably pick it up for the simple fact that I haven't turned down a Final Fantasy game to date.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2013-09-15 17:46:16
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That battle system is redesigned, and the story telling vehicle is different from the other two games. If you focus on the outfit system then the game seems kinda silly but I haven't heard anything bad about the gameplay/story yet.
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