[Dev] Nyzul Isle Assault Bug

Aly I did have a question about that.

Most terms are widely known (like speed hack). Are we not allowed to say that even? Or is it just the name of the program?

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I ask because this whole topic is about dat modding NPC names, which is also illegal.

I'm just not sure what we are allowed to discuss or not on something like this.

SE was stupid for making this event the way they did. The players were stupid for asking SE for "hard content" in the first place. SE was stupid for not making proper adjustments. The players were stupid for using cheats that directly led to them getting game-breaking gear and thinking SE would let that go. Both sides should have known better. Now look at the mess you all made.

PS3 players can't win. They'll find other excuses anyway.

Don't get people's hopes up.

O.O WHY ME

Even the cheating folks are doing themselves a disservice by mentioning any details about their "tools of trade" I suppose...

nyzul isle ban = new salvage dupe ban?

SE sure loves PR blunders don't they.

Don't ban me, bro!

This is a long secondary conversation we could get into. Suffice to say, no it doesn't work that way, and yes they could change it to work that way but then we'd know about it and it would be trivial to work around. And then it would only attempt to catch people who have yet to modify their dats in the future, it would do nothing for those who have already done so in the past.

You connect to the update server, download a new has table, check the list of files for those hash's. If they match then no download is conducted, if they don't match then their marked for download. They are not now nor will attempt take apart that file to determine what changes were made, only that it doesn't match the new updated hash. No info is transmitted to the update server btw, its the update client that does the hash comparisons and composed the file list.

Your idea would actually ban every single player on update, not just the ones who modded their dats.

Now would you like me to get you a ruler or did you bring your own?

Dat mods have been mentioned time and time again. We've told SE about them and spoken at great length on the OF. Camate even asked about feedback regarding order lamps and that he would relay to the devs and see what they think. Their only making an issue due to the JP's going nuts over the posted NA videos.

Nothing to learn, move on.

All cheaters will be smited.

Or given an ultimatum to drop any Nyzul Uncharted gear and since this is SE we're talking about even the people who did 25 runs of 80 to complete an asterium would get caught up.

There's a storm coming citizens of Vana'diel.

Pro-tip all you dat swapers...

Unapply the changes you did to the dats before the next update. And, so long as you didn't do like <t> in any form of chat, shouldn't have any hard evidence against you.

The revert dat change is just because when you update the game, server replaces any dats that don't match the servers. Just a safety net imo but still.

Even funnier

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/18584-dev1048-%E3%82%A2%E3%82%B5%E3%83%AB%E3%83%88%E3%80%8C%E3%83%8A%E3%82%A4%E3%82%BA%E3%83%AB%E5%B3%B6%E6%9C%AA%E9%96%8B%E9%A0%98%E5%9F%9F%E8%B8%8F%E6%9F%BB%E6%8C%87%E4%BB%A4%E3%80%8D%E3%81%AB%E3%81%A4%E3%81%84%E3%81%A6?p=339241&viewfull=1#post339241

Slycer on BG did a clean translation of the CR response


This was in response to the JP's asking that only NA/EU be subject to banning. Seriously ... they actually suggested that and got a response.

Or just use the BG torrent updater. Replaced all the files and toggles the update bit so that it pass's initial check. Log in as though nothing ever happened.

All I see are asshurt JP PS2ers mad SE made an event they can't do, some NA/EU/JP cheated the system to win but said JP PS2ers are so blind they don't realize their own people cheat and thus punishment is a dish best served to gaijin.

Lol they actually asked for only NA/EU players to be punished, not too surprised tbh, the NNI gear is clearly JP onry.

Why people still on this forums you should be out there making Nyzul Isle runs x.x....

wtf. nobody can be that stupid. need link to this for the lulz plz.

With or without the cheats on?

Does it matter?

Tbh, I'd avoid doing nyzul with mods at this point just cause they seem to be cracking down on it...

but what if i renamed the lamps but never actually did nyzul isle since to take advantage of it?

There's a reason no one shouts this event and I'll give you a hint:

It's a waste of time.

Dude, they CAN LOG WHICH files your client download any time and god knows if they have not been doing that for years now ... It does not matter which files pass or not a hash check, I am talking about what files your client WILL DOWNLOAD.

If they do not update the lamp files but PUT THEM on the update list, the updater will check the file hashes and whomever has the legitimate files, the updater will not attempt to download them again.

What difficulty you have to understand that concept ? So they log WHICH files people downloaded when they updated and filter for these specific files. What is the mystery ?

Now who's going to hit the other's hand with a ruler ?

there are still plenty groups who win nyzul with 3-5+ min left. those groups have nothing to worry about cept maybe a small dip in win percentage. anyone who has ever done lamp orders the real way in old school nyzul knows its fairly easy to do if you fully understand how they work. this will add 1-2min tops to lamp order.

buuuut i'm sure anyone who is in this boat already realizes this.

Didn't realize I was speaking to a minor. You'll understand the ruler reference after you hit puberty.

Trying to explain how the client side updater works is useless at this point in time. Your too angry for blood.