[Dev] Nyzul Isle Assault Bug

"SE! SE! Stop being unfair! Let me have the gear so I can afk in Port Jueno and complain about being bored!"

I just don't understand how to be stupid enough to do something this HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.

Their last activity on AH.com history was shortly after the video was uploaded to youtube. My guess is they were banned awhile ago.

They quit supposedly.

Well, if it comes to it, keep a seat for me at the "guilty by association" bar. I'll pay the first wave of Jaeger Bombs.

Never know with SE, seeing how 2009 was handled, even a group who cleared Nyzul F100 with 0/5 people DAT modding/cheating and furthermore, playing on PS2/360, can get fully banned.

Haha.

Skype can be a nuisance, as said above, it distracts too much, it's not universal.

If you can't play and type on the same keyboard, you are doing something wrong.

And if you can't play and talk...you are also doing something wrong. I wouldn't be surprised to see SE go full ban hammer mode though.

I dont know if a mass banning is the answer, they are already facing a shrinking playerbase. That said, I will lol if Mnkk gets banned. Thats just me tho.

Considering the need to talk when doing Neo Nyzul, I would say that 90% of any discussion going on for these 30min are about anything but FFXI.

I can't talk about Street Fighter and Nyzul, yet I can run/fight and type at the same time. I'm pretty sure you can see what is the difference between both.

And if you really insist on the need for spoken communication in Neo Nyzul, then I have nothing nice to tell you.

On one side you have the low playerbase, on the other you have angry JPs that demand an example to be made.

2009 showed us what SE rather do.

A lot has changed since '09. I don't see SE making the same choice.

I don't know, really.

They indeed didn't open a full investigation straight away about Nyzul, few people got banned but we "know" that most of them were banned over reports, as most of them were notorious ***/cheaters (the kind of idiot that pos hack while waiting for people at VW or runs over 12% everywhere). If they did open a full investigation, they would have paraded as they did in 2009, and much more people would have been back to Gusgen Mines and such.

While they do not openly say "we will check logs and spank people if needed" (as they did in 2009), I can't help but feel that they might ban a certain number, just to show that they are still here after all this time and people can't cheat freely.

I really hope that I'm wrong, though.

with this so called fix i think alot more people gonna be leaving JPs always crying that NA get something they can get 2 man give it up already its tough enough with dat mods nvm without
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Because it was obtainable to get floor 100 even in vanilla mode. so no one bothered.

It was easy to kill VNM's in a different zone than other people as well.

This change..wow.

That is all I have to say, just.... wow.

I dont understand why anyone would make a big deal over using tools when it doesn't prevent themselves from getting the same gear. This isn't HNMs where only one group has a shot at getting drops every 21-24 hours. It's a system where its open to everybody. Also, JPs are every bit as guilty as NAs when it comes to using tools in Nyzul.

If players continue to cheat to win SE will continue to think the event is working as intended because players are winning.

That is the only reason I can think of and in a way they want the cheating to stop so a fix can finally come.

I'm probably wrong but eh, it makes sense to me anyways.

Yeah but that was optional too...what's your point?

I seem to recall a while back SE asked the community on how they could improve Neo-Nyzul and the community flat out told them the problems; order lamps, too large all floors, too many random small jumps but certainly emphasis on the order lamps and a common suggestion was to not start time until players are out of the lobby.

Players basically flat out told SE the problems with Neo-Nyzul and pretty sure they just got ignored, of course I could be dreaming this up in my head, oh well time for bed...hey I was a poet and I didn't even know it.

I'm sure the use of 3rd party tools / fill mode / npc name changing didn't help the possibility of SE getting off their lazy butts to make a fix. If people are winning why do they need to fix it?

Well, this is what happen when NA/EU players rub Nyzul Isle gear into JP's faces. I'm 7/10 Waiting until i get 4 tags then it's over, Nares can go to hell... Thanks JP

I wanted to like this 10000 times, but could only + it once. ; ;

"They already tried to fix the lamp thing multiple times...every update/patch they've done since they introduced neo, they were doing it before as well with old nyzul...they've known about this for a long time...don't know why they would wait years to make it a client side thing, they only waited like 7 or 8 months to change VNM's"

The point being that they made that optional item client side within 1 year of putting it out, they've waited for 5 years to do this one...don't think the lamps are going client side, which could very well make them more laggy than they are now and further prevent not only honest NA's from completing nyzul, but honest JP's(i know they're both fairly rare) as well.

No matter when people are saying "it's intended to be difficult" Neo Nyzul is way too "RNG" / luck based.

The time of 30 minutes is not reasonable to figure out Lamps orde the "legit" way when with mods are still racing against the clock without having any time to waste.

I doubt SE is going to fix Nyzul at all even with this proof people are cheating, just because its to hard to beat the clock without name changing. The only way it looks to me "SE: Oh you cheat? We investigate." They will probably find a way to fix that you can't see order and leave it at that with the same time limit and assault mechanics.

12/15, have all i need, sorry your butthurt JP, maybe NA players can beat some of you on sexy gear, keep crying about it

Well, either way if they fix it so we cannot see the order what's the point, don't waste tags cause it's a failure if you get the order floors.. Pathetic Neo Nyzul Isle cannot be done "legit" way.

I'm pretty sure we fixed NI in about 4 posts in that thread.

rofl

Sorry for the mistakes but English is not my first language.

Even with the .dat, it's still hard to win. I'm currently 2/17 winnings runs by the way. NN is what keep me playing in the past few weeks. Each day, I try to make my sam and drk better for that event.

I think it's something completly new for FFXI, it's not about grinding dynamis over and over to get that said weapon. Lately, everything in FFXI is about doing the same thing, 0/450 on Kaggen and Pil by the way(I guess it work as expected from the dev team).

I've done thing in NN that I never did in the 9 last years in FFXI. When we make a PT, if we are missing a DD or SCH, we contact that new person on skype. We try new strategies to help our success run. Maybe some people don't like it, but the ramdoms factors we have on each floor, I think, it's what it makes that event fun. Each time we finish a floor, everybody on skype is like: "CMON BIG JUMP!! CMON BIG JUMP!!" We communicate with each other, when we start, we were helping each other on NM or mob. Now we just run by for the next mob. At the start, we always go our seperate way to cover more grounds, we communicate when east is dead end, we remember the direction we took for coded floor, we buy feet from the past to run faster on lamp floor.

When I actualy won my first Platinum KI, I was very happy because for the last 30 minutes, we work has a team, and we won. Everybody did his best and we succed. I know it's a hard event but the more you play with the same group, the more you have a chance to win which it's what I like about that event. It's not about if you can provoke faster then the guy next to you and not lag, it's about team work, speed and luck. (But at least you can control a little of the luck, compare Kaggen, I control nothing if get the body or not). By the way, my GF think I'm pathetic to be so happy when I won my Phorcys body :P

I don't think they should make that event easier exept for lamps. They could give us the order or remove it, I don't care. For the rest, they don't need to change a thing. If you cannot see the order, it,s almost a lost because it will take 2-5 minutes to clear and it's way to long.

It's something different and I think it's what FFXI needed. They tried to make that event grinding with 25 KI for one item but I don't think they should invest in that direction.

I don't know what my point is but I like that event because I know we can win if we play as a team even with the rng.

SE's response to that would be: spam floor 80 25x per piece.

My ultimate solution.


Require 5 wins (instead of the current 25) for a Gold Astrarium.





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