Ohh with mods and other secret ninja techniques you can get floor 100 consistently. Those are just all the ways SE can screw you, and they will screw you at least one if not twice per run. Cheats lets you overcome the screwing and pull out a win. But for a bunch of console players without any modifications / cheats, a single screw you will end their run due to the time wasting involved. One of our members keeps track of our jumps, we average 19 jumps per 100 clear. That's less then 90s per floor needed.
We got with
Three heavy DD's, 1 BLU (me) and 2 SCH's. Movement and coordination is vastly more important then pure damage output.
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Regiment said: » sucks i guess if you dont find it fun. even though its luck based me and my group still have a lot of fun and dont use skype or dat files so when do get to floor 80 or 100 its very exciting. oh and we can do lamp order in less than 1minute even when we dont get the first try Umm, I don't know about everyone else here but I don't find losing to be very much fun at all. Also, doing this without Skype is a nightmare, typing is just another waste of time that can be avoided easily. Skype distracts people imo.
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Ofcourse this has to occur just as I finally get a group together..
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Cerberus.Tikal said: » Skype distracts people imo. to some extent maybe, but most people can talk and play at the same time. people that can't really shouldn't be in a NNI group. the efficiency you gain and time that you save by being able to talk to each other rather than having to stop and type it out is an immense advantage.
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Avitori said: » Regiment said: » sucks i guess if you dont find it fun. even though its luck based me and my group still have a lot of fun and dont use skype or dat files so when do get to floor 80 or 100 its very exciting. oh and we can do lamp order in less than 1minute even when we dont get the first try Umm, I don't know about everyone else here but I don't find losing to be very much fun at all. Also, doing this without Skype is a nightmare, typing is just another waste of time that can be avoided easily. what do you define losing as? cuz we still have fun getting to floor 80, i can see why some ppl get frustrated right away but we just go again till we get lucky Sylph.Tigerwoods said: » Regiment said: » sucks i guess if you dont find it fun. even though its luck based me and my group still have a lot of fun and dont use skype or dat files so when do get to floor 80 or 100 its very exciting. oh and we can do lamp order in less than 1minute even when we dont get the first try idc if you believe me or not lol if its 3 tries or less it can be done in less than a minute just pick an order then alternate names easy as hell Regiment said: » what do you define losing as? cuz we still have fun getting to floor 80, i can see why some ppl get frustrated right away but we just go again till we get lucky If you set the goal of reaching floor 100 and you fail to do so you've lost... No, when you fail, you can't try again right away, it makes you wait. You're claiming to find all the lamps, and being able to try them 2 times, failing both and waiting on recast, then doing it a third time in UNDER a minute?
Nope
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Well, guess I'm gonna miss my chance of getting NNI gear <__< Always late to the party.
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Ramuh.Laffter said: » Well, guess I'm gonna miss my chance of getting NNI gear <__< Always late to the party. Its ok neo-salvage armor will either be a big disappointment like neo-limbus or make nyzul gear collect dust. I'm going with the former myself which makes me sad :( I love the google context sensitive ads that started appearing in this topic :)
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Quote: what do you define losing as? cuz we still have fun getting to floor 80, i can see why some ppl get frustrated right away but we just go again till we get lucky Yeah...do this another 10-20 times without hitting 100 and then tell me how much fun you're having. Shiva.Larrymc said: » I love the google context sensitive ads that started appearing in this topic :)
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Cerberus.Maeldiar said: » Ramuh.Laffter said: » Well, guess I'm gonna miss my chance of getting NNI gear <__< Always late to the party. Its ok neo-salvage armor will either be a big disappointment like neo-limbus or make nyzul gear collect dust. I'm going with the former myself which makes me sad :( Dunno, I mean limbus gear was never ridiculously good even when it was first introduced. Salvage gear on the other hand pretty much destroyed every other piece of gear out there. I'm exaggerating slightly, but salvage sets were clearly the best sets around, unlike limbus. I guess they are gonna put server side lamps
Valefor.Prothescar said: » Cerberus.Tikal said: » Skype distracts people imo. to some extent maybe, but most people can talk and play at the same time. people that can't really shouldn't be in a NNI group. the efficiency you gain and time that you save by being able to talk to each other rather than having to stop and type it out is an immense advantage. Since when do you have to stop to type anything in ffxi anyways, autorun is your friend!
If running short distances, can just split up what you'r saying a bit. ofc you need to type rather fast to efficiently do this, but I've found most FFXI players to be fast typers, most the most part. Considering that speech is far quicker still than typing, and how small and confined most all of the rooms in Nyzul are, devaluing autorun? Yea.
Not saying it's faster than speech, but we managed very well without ever using it, so it's fast enough :P
Skype is priceless for Nyzul. That's what I hear anyway >.>
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And seriously the lamp order floors it's not about difficulty is about something that is bad designed..
They can keep the difficulty other ways that makes it more reasonable and less... wait for the timer to go up. Many of you have said that even with a perfect set up and luck you take 3-5 min on lamp order on an event when you have 30 minutes and you have to make 15-20 jumps aprox... making that is not challenge at all its just something stupid.. I'm still 0/15 too, because almost all of Lakshmi is still putting efforts into 2010 content instead of doing the new things.
Be nice to see an adjustment to order lamp floors, in addition to whatever they plan on with preventing 3rd party tool abuse. A good start would be limiting to 3-4 lamps per order floor, or vastly increasing the % of 3-lamp order floors.
The vast majority of people only use .dat swaps to their advantage when it comes to Nyzul, should be a clear sign to SE that order lamps are very much undesired and can kill a run but I can see them just turning round and banning people, myself included.
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Lakshmi.Inspectorgadget said: » I'm still 0/15 too, because almost all of Lakshmi is still putting efforts into 2010 content instead of doing the new things. sounds like shiva They already tried to fix the lamp thing multiple times...every update/patch they've done since they introduced neo, they were doing it before as well with old nyzul...they've known about this for a long time...don't know why they would wait years to make it a client side thing, they only waited like 7 or 8 months to change VNM's
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