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 Cerberus.Tidis
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2012-07-24 10:20:27
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ah wasn't aware that Requiscat was like that, will probably merit that after I'm done meriting DEX then, thanks.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2012-07-24 10:21:35
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Phoenix.Elspetta said: »
Cerberus.Tidis said: »
Can someone explain to me the benefit of Requiescat? I have space for it but I'd like to understand the use of it since I'm happy with CDC atm and it can already self darkness.

I heard that Requiscat isn't affected by the -PDT of that one custard for enemy leader floor, is that what it's useful for?
NVM ~ See above.

It ignores resistances, it's good for mobs that are otherwise resistant to physical damage slashing blunt etc- works well for amorphs and puddings I think, correct me if i'm wrong.
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By Cerberus.Keyoku 2012-07-24 10:25:02
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Cerberus.Tidis said: »
Can someone explain to me the benefit of Requiescat? I have space for it but I'd like to understand the use of it since I'm happy with CDC atm and it can already self darkness.

I heard that Requiscat isn't affected by the -PDT of that one custard for enemy leader floor, is that what it's useful for?

It's not just for that 1 flan NM but for all members of the flan family. Requiescat ignores the -PDT and even Invincible (by giving all its hits a 1.0 damage multiplier, iirc couldn't find my source for that, but think I read that on BG forums somewhere. disregard till I find it again ^^;).

Edit: Beaten by a nice post by Saevel there.

@ Saevel Yes, I remember Camate's post, I just tried to say that I believe from a Dev/Programmer's point of view, it would be much easier to just number the lamps (aka exactly what .dat swaps do) than dropping an entire objective from 1 (maybe 2) events. I also think this should be better for us players since an order floor with numbered lamps would most likely be faster to handle than a same time floor ( especially one with some unlucky adds). My personal favorite story of a same time floor was a mnk voking 2 gears to avoid discovery, then using the lamp - which reset his enmity and ended up with both gears aggroing and us losing 2min <.<
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2012-07-24 10:25:59
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That's very useful to know, should have merited Requiescat a long time ago.
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2012-07-24 10:41:39
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It's not just for that 1 flan NM but for all members of the flan family. Requiescat ignores the -PDT and even Invincible (by giving all its hits a 1.0 damage multiplier, iirc couldn't find my source for that, but think I read that on BG forums somewhere. disregard till I find it again ^^;).

Every source of damage in FFXI has a damage type. Monsters sometimes have bonus damage applied or damage reduced from different sources (Blunt / Piercing / Slashing / Magic / Breath). Sword WS are usually slashing (CDC) or magic (Sanguine Blade), Requiescat has a damage type of "None" otherwise known as "Non-Elemental", its neither magic nor a flavor of physical. This means when the server is doing the damage calculation, at the end where it applies the bones -25% slashing damage, it just ignores it entirely. The monsters damage resistances simply don't apply to Requiescats damage type.

Think of it as a weaponskill version of the twilight scyth.
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By Cerberus.Keyoku 2012-07-24 11:04:47
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Exactly, the same goes for WS with Murasamemaru, too.

And in a nutshell it just means that Non-Elemental (really don't like that term) damage has a Damage Multiplier of 1.0 hence ignoring all forms of PDT that some families have. (Tho I'm sure there are exceptions with NMs by now, my first guess would be Kalasutrax) Also not sure if that 1 Flan NM that can aborb ws dmg would also absorb Req of it it would be ignored.
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By Carbuncle.Pwnzone 2012-07-24 11:09:28
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Ragnarok.Darkria said: »
Carbuncle.Pwnzone said: »
I would say there's a strong focus more so on having experienced DD than very awesome geared. I use my SAM usually in nni & its def not the best (99Kanto, before i started got Phorcys gear used cheap substitutes like Spiral ring heafoc mitts ace's body etc.), but having a lot of experience with nyzul 1.0 it was easy for me to understand the type of speed needed to blow through 2.0 after the first run. With Embrava up, youre gear isnt AS MUCH of a focus as being able to understand the objective on each floor & quickly *** what needs to be done to move up *pop flee boots/sprinters, use oil/powder or just run it*. I believe jobs could vary quite a bit in nni as long as the player knows their job to its fullest & can remain just as effective with the actual climbing.


I agree there are jobs and such that are useful, but there are still some that are not. Also gear doesn't play a big roll with Embrava up and all but the problem once again is order = fail. SE has mentioned the problem and because of this you cant say that they are not going to consider something.

Yeah sorry for that. I assumed SE was still "lamps still ***blockin ya?! Cool story bro". Thats good to hear though. Lamps have always been a pretty big prob but i figured they enjoyed listening to all the hate lol
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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2012-07-24 14:25:49
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Lets keep the names of 3rd party hacking programs and what they do out of FFXIAH please.
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By Leviathan.Korialstrasz 2012-07-24 15:15:55
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Is "Atma of the Blue Crab" and "Atmacite of the Red Hat" acceptable?
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2012-07-28 21:04:16
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Wow update happened and this thread died a horrible death.

"Ohh look shiny!!!"
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By Valefor.Applebottoms 2012-07-28 21:12:43
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Shiny > all



....damn VW and lack of bodies D:
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By Phoenix.Ragmar 2012-07-28 23:39:35
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Leviathan.Korialstrasz said: »
Phoenix.Ragmar said: »
If they ban for this they would have to ban for windower/spellcast usage too I'd think. I know several of the first 15/15 NNI gear people on Phoenix got temp banned for clippering through NNI and half of them had several previous temp bans for other third party stuff yet were allowed to come back after like 5 days so Id be pretty suprised if they ban anyone for this.
Funny that you'd be surprised if it happens, since you actually hope people get banned.

I'm not asking for bans ... I'm saying SE needs to take a stance and stick with it rather than having a double standard. As in if they ban for nyzul stuff they should for the other third party tools. Also I said that I'd be suprised if they did based on how they handled other recent situations in the same event. Nothing more nothing less.
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By Shiva.Cybermario 2012-07-29 00:22:29
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Lakshmi.Saevel said: »
Wow update happened and this thread died a horrible death.

"Ohh look shiny!!!"
people got distracted searching the meaning of Iridescence all this time.

Anyway is regretable SE did not prevented this, either that or lazy developers did not give a damn insted of doing it server side.

As for cheaters... they should not complain of a ban if they abuse something that they should not, no matter how "impossible to win without cheating" NNI can be.
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By ZeroAssassin 2012-09-14 10:39:43
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