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By Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk 2012-07-22 04:32:35
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Asura.Myrrh said: »
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Easiest solution I think would be to make NNI much easier thus devaluing the prestige of the gear and make Neo Salvage gear superior.

NNI F100 gear never was ment to be for everyone, I believe SE said as much which is why there was gear for floor 20-80, I don't see how they have a choice now since anyone with ~6mil could buy a win; a week in dyna per piece basically.

Either dumb it down or bans and "play it as intended" tunes because if they arn't going to ban 15/15 people then everyone else should be able to make 15/15 just as easily as they did, only fair.
The people who make these statements are always 0/15

You said that like you matter. You don't play fair, so type your witty rebuttal, but in the end, your accomplishments mean less.
Because i utilize the built in windower functions that you have access too and don't turn on? k
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By Mirvana 2012-07-22 04:33:11
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Seriously, noone wants the +1/2/3 gear because they know the F100 pieces exists.

And yes, the "HERPDERP I AM 15/15 SUX2BU!!!1!!11Lol" posts are just being an ***. Yes, I'm 0/15. Doesn't make my points any less relevant and it CERTAINLY doesn't make your X/15 anywhere near relevant.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk 2012-07-22 04:36:02
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You know if you carry drugs on you and get caught that you will be charged for possession even if you never had intent on using them?

Keep playing on windower, the very program that has built in functions that everyone is using, and that you are bashing for utilizing.

Edit: And if you are playing on PS2 or Xbox, i think you might be one the JP's.
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By Asura.Aerox 2012-07-22 04:58:33
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3rd Party tools arn't the problem, it's what you use them for. At it's basic Windower is a UI augment, spellcast is a more efficient macro system.

Using tools to dupe/bot/do things SE didn't intend (fleehacking/.dat swaps) is the problem. I wouldnt compare Windower to these.

Probably would have done the 25 F80 wins eventually, but never really motivated. There arn't the worthwhile events at the moment that require such effort for the gear.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk 2012-07-22 05:00:26
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Asura.Aerox said: »
3rd Party tools arn't the problem, it's what you use them for. At it's basic Windower is a UI augment, spellcast is a more efficient macro system.

Using tools to dupe/bot/do things SE didn't intend (fleehacking/.dat swaps) is the problem. I wouldnt compare Windower to these.

Probably would have done the 25 F80 wins eventually, but never really motivated. There arn't the worthwhile events at the moment that require such effort for the gear.
Don't think SE intended you too use any of the tools in windower or it would be a part of the game.
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By Asura.Aerox 2012-07-22 05:03:33
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Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: »
Asura.Aerox said: »
3rd Party tools arn't the problem, it's what you use them for. At it's basic Windower is a UI augment, spellcast is a more efficient macro system.

Using tools to dupe/bot/do things SE didn't intend (fleehacking/.dat swaps) is the problem. I wouldnt compare Windower to these.

Probably would have done the 25 F80 wins eventually, but never really motivated. There arn't the worthwhile events at the moment that require such effort for the gear.
Don't think SE intended you too use any of the tools in windower or it would be a part of the game.

A number of the features are on the way according to SE.

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http://dl.square-enix.co.jp/ffxi/US/2012roadmap.jpg
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2012-07-22 07:19:51
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I think a good fix would be to make it so that the people who have put effort into getting a Floor 100 Disc in Old Nyzul as well as the Captain Wildcat badge have a better chance at getting high floor jumps.

Or they could also make a system in which people can upgrade the NQ/+1/+2/+3 gear to Phorcys/Nares/Thaumas and charge Nyzul/Assault points as a service charge. They oughta know by now that nobody is gonna settle for that crap and should provide a better use for them instead of being tossed to the ground all the time. They recently added a similar service for people to obtain HQ VW bodies a bit easier, why not Nyzul?

Always thought an "upgrade" system would of been a better idea. Still make the 100's drop from the final floor and the KI to trade in, but also introduce a method where you could trade in a +2 for a +3 if you have 5 floor 60 wins. Trade in a +3 for a 100 piece if you have floor 80 wins or 15~20 floor 60 wins. Things to that effect allow players of all types to access the gear, it only becomes a matter of time till acquisition.

I still stand by my statement that the event was designed for players to farm floor 60 and 80 gear while hoping to one day MAYBE get floor 100 gear. As it stands now it forces everyone into two big camps, one that has 100 gear and one that has no hope of 100 gear. Players in the second camp will irrationally blame players in the first for their lack of gear acquisition. Players in the first camp will find themselves under assault and defend themselves which only perpetrates the bickering. What BOTH camps need to do is stop blaming and fighting each other and blame the real ones causing the issues, Tanaka and his merry concept of "barance" and kings gear acquisition rate.
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2012-07-22 07:44:07
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Asura.Aerox said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: »
Asura.Aerox said: »
3rd Party tools arn't the problem, it's what you use them for. At it's basic Windower is a UI augment, spellcast is a more efficient macro system.

Using tools to dupe/bot/do things SE didn't intend (fleehacking/.dat swaps) is the problem. I wouldnt compare Windower to these.

Probably would have done the 25 F80 wins eventually, but never really motivated. There arn't the worthwhile events at the moment that require such effort for the gear.
Don't think SE intended you too use any of the tools in windower or it would be a part of the game.

A number of the features are on the way according to SE.

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http://dl.square-enix.co.jp/ffxi/US/2012roadmap.jpg

Yes SE is planning those and their completely irrelevant to the matter at hand. Windower is a TPA, anyone who use's it is by definition "cheating". There are no excuse's for this, people can't pick and chose their definition of "cheating". If someone is a "die in a fire CHEATORZZZ!!!" then they better not be using a single TPA or add-on. Strictly vanilla client all the way.
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By Kirinya 2012-07-22 08:00:29
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I think it's hilarious how huge hypocrite people are and telling people it's working as intended so play as intended.

This is like going back to the 3 ground kings days and saying "No LS uses bots to claim ^_^" linkshells back then botted because they wanted to see results and gear. Only difference between these two is swapping .dat doesn't effect anyone and you are not *** blocking anyone from getting any Nyzul gear. Botting however does affect other players since you can claim faster than someone that attempts to claim the "legit" way. That being sad both of them is cheating, because players want results.

This is also like saying waaaah spellcast cheats! i cant use that cause i play on SNES or xbox QQ
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By Phoenix.Evildemon 2012-07-22 08:23:27
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Lmfao botting, I claimed more before I ever botted than I ever did while botting. I believe I had about 7 fafnirs and a 1 kb without a bot. And claimed 0 times with a bot so yeah botting is such an advantage try more of a waste of countless money on my part if they didn't come with other useful features.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-07-22 09:08:11
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I still don't understand why anyone thought that lamps were a good idea in NNI.
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By Odin.Creaucent 2012-07-22 09:29:00
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I dont get why the jps are in an uproar about this i have seen plenty of jps 5/5. Its not that hard my old group had quite a few runs when we didnt get order lamps though our success rate was absolutely rubbish 1/4 or 0/4. Only people that are moaning about this are the 0/15 perle aby burned dds who have no chance at getting nyzul isle unharted gear. If people want to cheat let them. SE will probably catch them hopefully none of us legit players who have nyzul isle gear dont get hit and no im not 15/15. Im 7/15 and not a single cheat used since im on xbox. Won lot on 2 pieces of that gear so 5 wins out of a month or two.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-07-22 09:35:31
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Odin.Creaucent said: »
Only people that are moaning about this are the 0/15 perle aby burned dds who have no chance at getting nyzul isle unharted gear.
You haven't read the threads much, have you? Cause this is a completely false statement.
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By Odin.Creaucent 2012-07-22 09:43:04
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Nope at work so havent got the time to read it all. Its just from what ibe seen from people on the server. Ive got friends who have really nice dds but are really unlucky in NNI but they dont moan about it they just get on with it.
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By Leviathan.Blackwhirlwind 2012-07-22 10:10:10
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So what ive read from here is that Jp has been reporting NA/EU players that have the gear posted via videos/screenshots of NNI runs hmmmm, well one solution to this problem is to not showboat that you got the gear because it will come back to bite you. I for one am still 0/15, most runs have been crappy jumps and stupid custards ive made it to 80 a couple times but thats about it. In my opinion SE is just using a scare tactic so that people dont use the .dat.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk 2012-07-22 10:32:26
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I dont get why the jps are in an uproar about this i have seen plenty of jps 5/5. Its not that hard my old group had quite a few runs when we didnt get order lamps though our success rate was absolutely rubbish 1/4 or 0/4. Only people that are moaning about this are the 0/15 perle aby burned dds who have no chance at getting nyzul isle unharted gear. If people want to cheat let them. SE will probably catch them hopefully none of us legit players who have nyzul isle gear dont get hit and no im not 15/15. Im 7/15 and not a single cheat used since im on xbox. Won lot on 2 pieces of that gear so 5 wins out of a month or two.
You rode the coat feathers of others, like dozens of people have rode mine.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk 2012-07-22 10:34:44
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So what ive read from here is that Jp has been reporting NA/EU players that have the gear posted via videos/screenshots of NNI runs hmmmm, well one solution to this problem is to not showboat that you got the gear because it will come back to bite you. I for one am still 0/15, most runs have been crappy jumps and stupid custards ive made it to 80 a couple times but thats about it. In my opinion SE is just using a scare tactic so that people dont use the .dat.
Always take a MNK with formless strikes 5/5, if its the PDT custard have him Hundred fist it and dont WS. Thing will die in less than 30 secounds. I go from 25~40 dmg a hit too 340~400
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-07-22 10:42:27
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Blu.
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-07-22 10:42:52
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Or bring better DD and have one of your scholars get off of their *** and do something?

Also BLU^
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By Odin.Creaucent 2012-07-22 10:43:24
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I dont get why the jps are in an uproar about this i have seen plenty of jps 5/5. Its not that hard my old group had quite a few runs when we didnt get order lamps though our success rate was absolutely rubbish 1/4 or 0/4. Only people that are moaning about this are the 0/15 perle aby burned dds who have no chance at getting nyzul isle unharted gear. If people want to cheat let them. SE will probably catch them hopefully none of us legit players who have nyzul isle gear dont get hit and no im not 15/15. Im 7/15 and not a single cheat used since im on xbox. Won lot on 2 pieces of that gear so 5 wins out of a month or two.
You rode the coat feathers of others, like dozens of people have rode mine.

Not at all.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk 2012-07-22 10:44:22
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Blu.
If theres 4~5 mobs+ clumped in a corridor have the Mnk pop Fanatics and counterstance everything while everyone travels deeper inside.
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-07-22 10:45:14
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Both BLU and WAR can do that immensely better than MNK.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk 2012-07-22 10:45:19
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Odin.Creaucent said: »
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Odin.Creaucent said: »
I dont get why the jps are in an uproar about this i have seen plenty of jps 5/5. Its not that hard my old group had quite a few runs when we didnt get order lamps though our success rate was absolutely rubbish 1/4 or 0/4. Only people that are moaning about this are the 0/15 perle aby burned dds who have no chance at getting nyzul isle unharted gear. If people want to cheat let them. SE will probably catch them hopefully none of us legit players who have nyzul isle gear dont get hit and no im not 15/15. Im 7/15 and not a single cheat used since im on xbox. Won lot on 2 pieces of that gear so 5 wins out of a month or two.
You rode the coat feathers of others, like dozens of people have rode mine.

Not at all.
Don't believe it, but at the end of the day im not more impressed or less impressed either way. Good job.
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By Bismarck.Altar 2012-07-22 10:45:59
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Odin.Creaucent said: »
Not at all.

Your entire static is on xbox?
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By Bismarck.Altar 2012-07-22 10:47:20
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Blu.
If theres 4~5 mobs+ clumped in a corridor have the Mnk pop Fanatics and counterstance everything while everyone travels deeper inside.
Terrible reason to take a monk. Only good reason is the pdt custard. But unless you get more than 2 pdt custards in a run, your sch's should be able to handle them fine
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk 2012-07-22 10:47:49
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Both BLU and WAR can do that immensely better than MNK.
Thats fine, ive had no quarrels with either job and i have certainly lead well as a Mnk. These are just small tips people can choose too apply or toss as trash, my success speaks for it self even if no one will openly agree with me because so many people on here hate me too one degree or another.
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-07-22 10:48:52
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Your successes have nothing to do with MNK. If you want to give "small tips", give good ones.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-07-22 10:49:05
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Can you ever write a post without boasting?
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By Asura.Calatilla 2012-07-22 10:49:12
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Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: »
Odin.Creaucent said: »
I dont get why the jps are in an uproar about this i have seen plenty of jps 5/5. Its not that hard my old group had quite a few runs when we didnt get order lamps though our success rate was absolutely rubbish 1/4 or 0/4. Only people that are moaning about this are the 0/15 perle aby burned dds who have no chance at getting nyzul isle unharted gear. If people want to cheat let them. SE will probably catch them hopefully none of us legit players who have nyzul isle gear dont get hit and no im not 15/15. Im 7/15 and not a single cheat used since im on xbox. Won lot on 2 pieces of that gear so 5 wins out of a month or two.
You rode the coat feathers of others, like dozens of people have rode mine.

I don't see how someone who is actively participating in the event is riding anyone's coat tails. If you're just standing there doing nothing for the entire run then yes, but not if you're killing/hitting lamps etc like everyone else in the pt.
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