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[Dev] Seekers of Adoulin not supporting NA PS2
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By Shiva.Gib 2012-06-27 04:04:12
it's not so much PS2 limitations holding it back now with the HDD expansion, but still they have people working on the PS2 version that could be working on something else in the game.
so basically how I see it, cutting off PS2 support = More devs to work on the platforms that 95% of the people play on -_-
Dude, there are no different versions of XI. There is only the PS2 version and PC and Xbox just basically run a PS2 emulated version.
The only thing different is the PC interface getting changed. HD icons, etc but most of that is just cosmetic crap. so you're saying the PS2 version requires no PS2 staff? there is just a single version that is created for a platform and it's just interchangeable?
/golfclap
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By Shiva.Fereydoon 2012-06-27 04:19:42
Shiva.Karmessurma said: »I m not american thats my excuse whats yours ? If he didn't spell anything wrong, why would he need an excuse?
That. Also, I thought EU didn't have the PS2 Hard Drive needed for FFXI. Why are you mad? Is Brazil in Europe really mister spelling god ....
Couple pages ago, but had to laugh at this a bit. You're mad that they're not releasing SoA on PS2's in NA? (EU never even got the PS2 release so they're fine and dandy.) Your country, much less your continent, isn't supported at all, this was mildly amusing.
On topic, echoing the obvious "It just isn't worth it to do". The expansion isn't even near out yet, calm down, you'll probably get some type of download, if not immediately, soon after. It'd be foolish of them to list it as supported when they aren't sure they can. The website is very clear about it being a DVD release, not happening for the small PS2 population. The dev post said: "However, FINAL FANTASY XI: Seekers of Adoulin will only be available on the Xbox 360 and Windows platforms in North America when it is released in 2013."
You might have to wait a bit, but honestly that's to be expected, you're using technology that isn't even produced here, the PS2 HDD, much less the PS2, which has pretty much been left to die.
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By Bismarck.Kyaaadaa 2012-06-27 04:31:55
good, PS2 is a dinosaur and should be in a museum scrapyard with the rest of the boring exhibits no one cares to see
obvious troll is obvious
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By Bahamut.Justthetip 2012-06-27 04:46:32
Carbuncle.Residentevilman said: »Bahamut.Justthetip said: »there's a world of difference between reading and reading comprehension, the latter you lack. You also lack the ability to say what you mean, but that's a harder skill to master.
You fail to grasp the concept that because they shut down the presses for the US PS2 games that they cannot release new titles for the PS2 in the US, that's just the way it is, accept it, as to why that's the way it is, you have to call up Sony.
Not to mention that even if they could release a PS2 version on the disc, they shouldn't as pressed discs are made in batches, and there isn't enough demand to even do one batch, so that nullifies any remaining argument as to why they can't just use another facility, if you didn't understand the last paragraph.
It has nothing to do with translation, and that's what you suggested.
You don't need amazing reading comprehension to play XI, but you need it to be able to converse with others and not have people think you're an idiot or trolling. You are right sir I dont know what im talking about lol. Its like tell people who are wearing all perle that they are doing it wrong and they just wont listen. Since you are just gonna twist me words around and assume im torlling I guess we have nothing to talk about anymore. I never once said its all about translation again you seem to keep putting words in my mouth. How the hell do you know they dont have enough demand for them they havent shown any numbers as to how many people play on PS2 anyway but w/e im a troll.
The issue here is, you aren't explaining very well what you want to be known. He is not saying you don't know what you're talking about. You just lack everyone elses understanding of how you say it. He did not twist your words, he provided responses based on your examples. The reason they won't support PS2 disc manufacturing, is it's redundant to do so. Japan is a small country, compared to US, and you have to span all fifty states to properly distribute the game to everyone who still uses PS2, when not many do. From what I've seen, people speculate PS2 will be added in to downloadable content section in a later date. SE's a business, and it shouldn't waste money trying to get discs out for a decaying console, in a region that hardly supports it.
On another note, we really need to get past PS2 at this point, it has been lucky to be living this long, everyone who begs to have mercy on PS2 support and leave it there, is just delaying it's long over-due death. PS2 is an expired piece of technology, let it go. I will not tell you to upgrade, to get a different system, or to make a choice. But I'm pretty sure you wouldn't eat expired food, or follow a fad that long ago was pronounced un-cool. I doubt you still wear 80s clothing, and think it looks "hip". The point being, people change, evolve, adapt. Technology does to, I'm sure you'd still like to use a stick to make fire instead of a lighter. Or live in a cave compared to a house, right? I have already said it but since people come in and just see one comment and fly off the handle they assume they know what they are talking about. So because I dont say word for word what I already posted I... Nvm you are right I have no idea what im talking about I dont even know what a PS2 is.
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By Carbuncle.Residentevilman 2012-06-27 05:14:46
Actually, I read each post in this thread, down to the letter. Just because I had the spare time. I wanted to help clarify for you his point of view. I'd also like to note, the latter half of my post, had nothing to do with your discussion. Neither of us are trying to say you don't know what you are talking about. We just don't understand what you are trying to say.
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By Shiva.Xellith 2012-06-27 05:26:16
Stuff like this is why I'm glad that I quit playing in December.
Cut support for PS2 entirely. Or release it for all regions. Singling out NA PS2 users is just a slap to the face for many.
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By Shiva.Ashmulder 2012-06-27 05:50:27
I also did not purchase Zilart, Chains, Treasures for the pc yet my ps2 registration worked on pc. There will be JP support for the title on PS2 so most likely there will be updates, as with all major expansions, to load up the new zones and not let players actually go to them without the expansions installed. Just like when Chains was released, you couldn't start any of the quests or zone into the new areas until you installed the game. You had to have installed the expansions. Your story is *** otherwise.
so what was the point in expanding the partition size (for both regions)?
bad move SE, bad move. Do we know if they actually increased it for NA PS2?
They did.
By Jetackuu 2012-06-27 05:51:19
Bahamut.Justthetip said: »there's a world of difference between reading and reading comprehension, the latter you lack. You also lack the ability to say what you mean, but that's a harder skill to master. You fail to grasp the concept that because they shut down the presses for the US PS2 games that they cannot release new titles for the PS2 in the US, that's just the way it is, accept it, as to why that's the way it is, you have to call up Sony. Not to mention that even if they could release a PS2 version on the disc, they shouldn't as pressed discs are made in batches, and there isn't enough demand to even do one batch, so that nullifies any remaining argument as to why they can't just use another facility, if you didn't understand the last paragraph. It has nothing to do with translation, and that's what you suggested. You don't need amazing reading comprehension to play XI, but you need it to be able to converse with others and not have people think you're an idiot or trolling. You are right sir I dont know what im talking about lol. Its like tell people who are wearing all perle that they are doing it wrong and they just wont listen. Since you are just gonna twist me words around and assume im torlling I guess we have nothing to talk about anymore. I never once said its all about translation again you seem to keep putting words in my mouth. How the hell do you know they dont have enough demand for them they havent shown any numbers as to how many people play on PS2 anyway but w/e im a troll. Bahamut.Justthetip said: » Apparently you dont know it either I already knew this before asking the question. What has stopped people from translating games from one to another? You lack the ability to understand not everyone wants to play on the same thing you wanna play on. If that were the case why have all these systems? FFXI went wrong by allowing anyone outside of PC to play this game. I don't need to simplify it for you since you seem to be on another planet of smartness then I am. Bahamut.Justthetip said: » You apparently didnt read what I said either. Saying the games dont work that way. So they have never made an english version of a game from another language? since you apparently can't remember what you yourself said, and are incapable of understanding how Sony has already shut down production of the US PS2 Disc production, also it's common knowledge that the PS2 base in NA is much smaller than it is in Japan, and that it's a very small amount of the total users, I'm not saying that they should be neglected but these are facts, if you want to know how this is derived, take this site as a sample size of the FFXI market (considering the amount of people here, and the amount of english speaking people playing the game etc) I'd say it's a large enough size to compare. I don't twist your words around, you either are lacking the skill to understand what you type, or are trying to say what you are typing isn't what you mean because you realize you're wrong, and that has long been apparent.
Carbuncle.Residentevilman said: »
The issue here is, you aren't explaining very well what you want to be known. He is not saying you don't know what you're talking about. You just lack everyone elses understanding of how you say it. He did not twist your words, he provided responses based on your examples. The reason they won't support PS2 disc manufacturing, is it's redundant to do so. Japan is a small country, compared to US, and you have to span all fifty states to properly distribute the game to everyone who still uses PS2, when not many do. From what I've seen, people speculate PS2 will be added in to downloadable content section in a later date. SE's a business, and it shouldn't waste money trying to get discs out for a decaying console, in a region that hardly supports it.
On another note, we really need to get past PS2 at this point, it has been lucky to be living this long, everyone who begs to have mercy on PS2 support and leave it there, is just delaying it's long over-due death. PS2 is an expired piece of technology, let it go. I will not tell you to upgrade, to get a different system, or to make a choice. But I'm pretty sure you wouldn't eat expired food, or follow a fad that long ago was pronounced un-cool. I doubt you still wear 80s clothing, and think it looks "hip". The point being, people change, evolve, adapt. Technology does to, I'm sure you'd still like to use a stick to make fire instead of a lighter. Or live in a cave compared to a house, right?
It has to do with Sony not making the discs anymore, SE doesn't have a choice.
You also don't seem to understand that the game's code is still made for the PS2, and the other systems emulate it, and unless they rewrite the engine itself they won't change this, and that costs more than a new title, so it's asking for something that won't happen, so people really need to get off the "drop ps2" thing already, it's old and flawed in logic, and you don't have a place to tell anyone what to play on.
Not to mention Japan still supports and uses the PS2 heavily.
Carbuncle.Residentevilman said: »Actually, I read each post in this thread, down to the letter. Just because I had the spare time. I wanted to help clarify for you his point of view. I'd also like to note, the latter half of my post, had nothing to do with your discussion. Neither of us are trying to say you don't know what you are talking about. We just don't understand what you are trying to say.
no he doesn't know what he's talking about, and we don't know what he's saying because he keeps changing his viewpoint
it's not so much PS2 limitations holding it back now with the HDD expansion, but still they have people working on the PS2 version that could be working on something else in the game.
so basically how I see it, cutting off PS2 support = More devs to work on the platforms that 95% of the people play on -_-
Dude, there are no different versions of XI. There is only the PS2 version and PC and Xbox just basically run a PS2 emulated version.
The only thing different is the PC interface getting changed. HD icons, etc but most of that is just cosmetic crap. so you're saying the PS2 version requires no PS2 staff? there is just a single version that is created for a platform and it's just interchangeable?
/golfclap
he's saying that the entire game is the ps2 version so it requires no additional staff.
Stuff like this is why I'm glad that I quit playing in December.
Cut support for PS2 entirely. Or release it for all regions. Singling out NA PS2 users is just a slap to the face for many.
They're not doing it by choice, and they aren't saying it won't be available, just not at launch.
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-06-27 06:03:09
The problem I have with PS2 is that players that don't use windower macros or spellcast tend to be absolutely terrible. I'm not saying all PS2 players are terrible but it's easier to succeed when you have the tools windower gives at its disposal. There will still be people that just use the official windower but it's at least one less excuse people can use to play at a subpar level.
By Fyyvoaa 2012-06-27 06:14:47
The problem I have with PS2 is that players that don't use windower macros or spellcast tend to be absolutely terrible. I'm not saying all PS2 players are terrible but it's easier to succeed when you have the tools windower gives at its disposal. There will still be people that just use the official windower but it's at least one less excuse people can use to play at a subpar level.
To be honest, i've seen more competent PS2 players and 360 players that can play rather then the windower/spellcast group.
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By Bahamut.Justthetip 2012-06-27 06:26:45
Bahamut.Justthetip said: »there's a world of difference between reading and reading comprehension, the latter you lack. You also lack the ability to say what you mean, but that's a harder skill to master. You fail to grasp the concept that because they shut down the presses for the US PS2 games that they cannot release new titles for the PS2 in the US, that's just the way it is, accept it, as to why that's the way it is, you have to call up Sony. Not to mention that even if they could release a PS2 version on the disc, they shouldn't as pressed discs are made in batches, and there isn't enough demand to even do one batch, so that nullifies any remaining argument as to why they can't just use another facility, if you didn't understand the last paragraph. It has nothing to do with translation, and that's what you suggested. You don't need amazing reading comprehension to play XI, but you need it to be able to converse with others and not have people think you're an idiot or trolling. You are right sir I dont know what im talking about lol. Its like tell people who are wearing all perle that they are doing it wrong and they just wont listen. Since you are just gonna twist me words around and assume im torlling I guess we have nothing to talk about anymore. I never once said its all about translation again you seem to keep putting words in my mouth. How the hell do you know they dont have enough demand for them they havent shown any numbers as to how many people play on PS2 anyway but w/e im a troll. Bahamut.Justthetip said: » Apparently you dont know it either I already knew this before asking the question. What has stopped people from translating games from one to another? You lack the ability to understand not everyone wants to play on the same thing you wanna play on. If that were the case why have all these systems? FFXI went wrong by allowing anyone outside of PC to play this game. I don't need to simplify it for you since you seem to be on another planet of smartness then I am. Bahamut.Justthetip said: » You apparently didnt read what I said either. Saying the games dont work that way. So they have never made an english version of a game from another language? since you apparently can't remember what you yourself said, and are incapable of understanding how Sony has already shut down production of the US PS2 Disc production, also it's common knowledge that the PS2 base in NA is much smaller than it is in Japan, and that it's a very small amount of the total users, I'm not saying that they should be neglected but these are facts, if you want to know how this is derived, take this site as a sample size of the FFXI market (considering the amount of people here, and the amount of english speaking people playing the game etc) I'd say it's a large enough size to compare. I don't twist your words around, you either are lacking the skill to understand what you type, or are trying to say what you are typing isn't what you mean because you realize you're wrong, and that has long been apparent.
Carbuncle.Residentevilman said: »
The issue here is, you aren't explaining very well what you want to be known. He is not saying you don't know what you're talking about. You just lack everyone elses understanding of how you say it. He did not twist your words, he provided responses based on your examples. The reason they won't support PS2 disc manufacturing, is it's redundant to do so. Japan is a small country, compared to US, and you have to span all fifty states to properly distribute the game to everyone who still uses PS2, when not many do. From what I've seen, people speculate PS2 will be added in to downloadable content section in a later date. SE's a business, and it shouldn't waste money trying to get discs out for a decaying console, in a region that hardly supports it.
On another note, we really need to get past PS2 at this point, it has been lucky to be living this long, everyone who begs to have mercy on PS2 support and leave it there, is just delaying it's long over-due death. PS2 is an expired piece of technology, let it go. I will not tell you to upgrade, to get a different system, or to make a choice. But I'm pretty sure you wouldn't eat expired food, or follow a fad that long ago was pronounced un-cool. I doubt you still wear 80s clothing, and think it looks "hip". The point being, people change, evolve, adapt. Technology does to, I'm sure you'd still like to use a stick to make fire instead of a lighter. Or live in a cave compared to a house, right?
It has to do with Sony not making the discs anymore, SE doesn't have a choice.
You also don't seem to understand that the game's code is still made for the PS2, and the other systems emulate it, and unless they rewrite the engine itself they won't change this, and that costs more than a new title, so it's asking for something that won't happen, so people really need to get off the "drop ps2" thing already, it's old and flawed in logic, and you don't have a place to tell anyone what to play on.
Not to mention Japan still supports and uses the PS2 heavily.
Carbuncle.Residentevilman said: »Actually, I read each post in this thread, down to the letter. Just because I had the spare time. I wanted to help clarify for you his point of view. I'd also like to note, the latter half of my post, had nothing to do with your discussion. Neither of us are trying to say you don't know what you are talking about. We just don't understand what you are trying to say.
no he doesn't know what he's talking about, and we don't know what he's saying because he keeps changing his viewpoint
it's not so much PS2 limitations holding it back now with the HDD expansion, but still they have people working on the PS2 version that could be working on something else in the game.
so basically how I see it, cutting off PS2 support = More devs to work on the platforms that 95% of the people play on -_-
Dude, there are no different versions of XI. There is only the PS2 version and PC and Xbox just basically run a PS2 emulated version.
The only thing different is the PC interface getting changed. HD icons, etc but most of that is just cosmetic crap. so you're saying the PS2 version requires no PS2 staff? there is just a single version that is created for a platform and it's just interchangeable?
/golfclap
he's saying that the entire game is the ps2 version so it requires no additional staff.
Stuff like this is why I'm glad that I quit playing in December.
Cut support for PS2 entirely. Or release it for all regions. Singling out NA PS2 users is just a slap to the face for many.
They're not doing it by choice, and they aren't saying it won't be available, just not at launch. Changing my point of view on what? I dont know what im talking about I guess since it seems im suppose to read between the lines on your post but you cant do the same for mine. I posted that it doesnt make sense to not do a PS2 release for NA but for Japs. You and others have been bitching about how PS2 has held back UI updates and what not. I then said when this new Expansion comes out they better have a 100% increase in gameplay. So point to me where im wrong or I dont understand. You know what I dont understand how this forum allows people who don't play posting on the forums. You seem to lack the understanding that I know this game was made for PS2 hell I brought the HDD for socom and started playing this game so trust me I know. I also love how you think I believe SE controls Sony and all that jazz. Just because people dont agree with you doesnt mean they are wrong. I don't understand what you are talking about so I must be wrong? Lets try this so you can soak in it. If they are gonna stop making new content for a system then isnt that pushing it on the chopping block? I never said they are gonna stop supporting it since they dont have a choice. I want you to understand this not everyone will agree with you Hell I think it was stupid to even put this game on Xbox. So before you assume someone is *** HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE why not ask them wtf they are talking about and not assume they are someone who isnt smart.
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By Asura.Daleterrence 2012-06-27 06:27:28
Catnipthief Rygar said: »The problem I have with PS2 is that players that don't use windower macros or spellcast tend to be absolutely terrible. I'm not saying all PS2 players are terrible but it's easier to succeed when you have the tools windower gives at its disposal. There will still be people that just use the official windower but it's at least one less excuse people can use to play at a subpar level.
To be honest, i've seen more competent PS2 players and 360 players that can play rather then the windower/spellcast group.
As have I, I personally know someone that plays on the 360 and she is one of the better WHMs out there.
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By Jetackuu 2012-06-27 06:32:17
I haven't asked anyone to read between the lines, I state what I say pretty bluntly.
I've explained several times why it's not a matter of choice, you apparently didn't understand it any of the times I've said it so here it is again: they've stopped US disc production for the Playstation 2 game console, there will be no more US PS2 discs of any kind.
Lol I've never once said that the PS2 holds back the game, in fact I've been quite vocal to the opposite, wow...
the rest of your comments aren't complete thoughts and are very hard to read, and a good example of why I don't have to ask about your level of intellect, I already know, but I did try several times and you failed miserably each time.
the thing about this forum allowing people who don't play post here is hilarious, you're asserting that I don't play when I have 3 accounts is funny...
Also: where did I say that I believed you thought that of Sony and SE?
Also: the fact that you don't agree with me isn't what makes you wrong, you're wrong because you're wrong, I'm sorry that you don't understand this concept.
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By Shiva.Alistrianna 2012-06-27 06:35:42
Not sure I remember where I heard this but didn't Sony stop the manufacturing of NA PS2 game discs not too long ago anyways? If so, wouldn't that be the real reason SE can't put the new expansion out on PS2?
EDIT: Looks like someone beat me to that anyways.
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By Odin.Tsuneo 2012-06-27 06:36:33
Been mentioned a few times in this thread already.
edit: looks like you beat me to telling you.
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By Jetackuu 2012-06-27 06:37:21
glad some people pay attention and understand logic and reason
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-06-27 06:38:18
Catnipthief Rygar said: »The problem I have with PS2 is that players that don't use windower macros or spellcast tend to be absolutely terrible. I'm not saying all PS2 players are terrible but it's easier to succeed when you have the tools windower gives at its disposal. There will still be people that just use the official windower but it's at least one less excuse people can use to play at a subpar level.
To be honest, i've seen more competent PS2 players and 360 players that can play rather then the windower/spellcast group. Cool. Using my own anecdotal evidence I've never met a player I would call good that didn't use windower/spellcast.
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By Bahamut.Justthetip 2012-06-27 06:40:02
I haven't asked anyone to read between the lines, I state what I say pretty bluntly.
I've explained several times why it's not a matter of choice, you apparently didn't understand it any of the times I've said it so here it is again: they've stopped US disc production for the Playstation 2 game console, there will be no more US PS2 discs of any kind.
Lol I've never once said that the PS2 holds back the game, in fact I've been quite vocal to the opposite, wow...
the rest of your comments aren't complete thoughts and are very hard to read, and a good example of why I don't have to ask about your level of intellect, I already know, but I did try several times and you failed miserably each time.
the thing about this forum allowing people who don't play post here is hilarious, you're asserting that I don't play when I have 3 accounts is funny...
Also: where did I say that I believed you thought that of Sony and SE?
Also: the fact that you don't agree with me isn't what makes you wrong, you're wrong because you're wrong, I'm sorry that you don't understand this concept. I don't get it. I never once said Sony was still doing US production of PS2 disc. Yet you bring it up still assuming you still think im dumb what post did I say Sony still makes PS2 disc for NA? So because they are hard to read I must be dumb you cant just ask what do you mean? I dont know what im failing miserably at but if im not up to your standards I guess im doing something right. I don't even know how I make letters or can read since im so stupid in your eyes. I posted What I wanted and seems like you cant even take it as something I want and not something you want. I asked for a 100% increase in game play some how you blew up it to me not being smart and that I think they make PS2 disc for NA hell I didnt even know they were still making PS2 games.
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By Bahamut.Justthetip 2012-06-27 06:42:06
Understanding what logic and reason guy? You do understand not everyone has to agree with you right? You being this supreme being and all if I understand it then I know you do.
By Jetackuu 2012-06-27 06:45:04
The fact that you stated that it doesn't make sense for them to release it in one area and not another is proof enough that you don't understand.
The fact that they are no longer making US PS2 discs is the reasoning behind it, in other words, yes it does make sense.
By Jetackuu 2012-06-27 06:46:50
Bahamut.Justthetip said: »Understanding what logic and reason guy? You do understand not everyone has to agree with you right? You being this supreme being and all if I understand it then I know you do.
it has never been a matter of agreeing or disagreeing, it's a matter of facts and logic, you can disagree all you want, you're entitled to be wrong, but as long as you keep posting from the viewpoint of being wrong, you will be called out on it.
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By Bahamut.Justthetip 2012-06-27 06:50:13
Bahamut.Justthetip said: »Understanding what logic and reason guy? You do understand not everyone has to agree with you right? You being this supreme being and all if I understand it then I know you do.
it has never been a matter of agreeing or disagreeing, it's a matter of facts and logic, you can disagree all you want, you're entitled to be wrong, but as long as you keep posting from the viewpoint of being wrong, you will be called out on it. I can't do it anymore. I never said it didnt make sense to make it in one area and not another. I just said in 3 different post that I want to see 100% increase in gameplay for this game since the PS2 limit in NA is done holding people back as some claim. Viewpoint of being wrong on that I want 100% increase in gameplay? What viewpoint that I dont want the game on consoles at all just PC? You have to explain what i mean since you seem to know for a fact im wrong before I post.
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By Bahamut.Vette 2012-06-27 06:51:40
Yes, NA PS2 disc pressing did stop awhile ago. So SE can have to option to bypass the permission of disc pressing from Sony and make it readily available for D2D (direct 2 drive).
With the PS2 HDD drive partitioned from 10G~19G and hopefully thinking like a delv manager on saving money. the future updates between now and next year, the bits and pieces of the 5th expansion will be added to the PS2 HDD. So, by the time line if everything goes well, at release PS2 users will only have to buy the activation code to enjoy it.
these are my thoughts, my words, my opinions... not gonna say this is how it will be.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-06-27 06:53:04
You guys have been arguing for like 8 hours now
By Jetackuu 2012-06-27 06:53:58
Bahamut.Justthetip said: »Bahamut.Justthetip said: »Understanding what logic and reason guy? You do understand not everyone has to agree with you right? You being this supreme being and all if I understand it then I know you do.
it has never been a matter of agreeing or disagreeing, it's a matter of facts and logic, you can disagree all you want, you're entitled to be wrong, but as long as you keep posting from the viewpoint of being wrong, you will be called out on it. I can't do it anymore. I never said it didnt make sense to make it in one area and not another. I just said in 3 different post that I want to see 100% increase in gameplay for this game since the PS2 limit in NA is done holding people back as some claim. Viewpoint of being wrong on that I want 100% increase in gameplay? What viewpoint that I dont want the game on consoles at all just PC? You have to explain what i mean since you seem to know for a fact im wrong before I post.
yeah you did, you even said you did: Bahamut.Justthetip said: » I posted that it doesnt make sense to not do a PS2 release for NA but for Japs.
I'm not going into why your other claim doesn't make sense, learn how to read.
Your other viewpoint is flawed too, for several reasons.
so not only are you illogical, flawed, inaccurate, you also lie, nice trolling.
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By Bahamut.Justthetip 2012-06-27 06:57:01
Bahamut.Justthetip said: »Bahamut.Justthetip said: »Understanding what logic and reason guy? You do understand not everyone has to agree with you right? You being this supreme being and all if I understand it then I know you do.
it has never been a matter of agreeing or disagreeing, it's a matter of facts and logic, you can disagree all you want, you're entitled to be wrong, but as long as you keep posting from the viewpoint of being wrong, you will be called out on it. I can't do it anymore. I never said it didnt make sense to make it in one area and not another. I just said in 3 different post that I want to see 100% increase in gameplay for this game since the PS2 limit in NA is done holding people back as some claim. Viewpoint of being wrong on that I want 100% increase in gameplay? What viewpoint that I dont want the game on consoles at all just PC? You have to explain what i mean since you seem to know for a fact im wrong before I post.
yeah you did, you even said you did: Bahamut.Justthetip said: » I posted that it doesnt make sense to not do a PS2 release for NA but for Japs.
I'm not going into why your other claim doesn't make sense, learn how to read.
Your other viewpoint is flawed too, for several reasons.
so not only are you illogical, flawed, inaccurate, you also lie, nice trolling. Ya thats what i been doing trolling. I havent been saying I just want 100% increase in gameplay not once. Why dont you learn how you teach me since this stuff is all new to me. You know maybe its just better to agree with you so you can stop assuming you are way better than me on some godly level. Btw thats for disc which is what you were talking about. I didn't know you can only do content from disc only.
By Jetackuu 2012-06-27 06:57:59
Valefor.Prothescar said: »You guys have been arguing for like 8 hours now
not straight, I went to bed :P
Yes, NA PS2 disc pressing did stop awhile ago. So SE can have to option to bypass the permission of disc pressing from Sony and make it readily available for D2D (direct 2 drive).
With the PS2 HDD drive partitioned from 10G~19G and hopefully thinking like a delv manager on saving money. the future updates between now and next year, the bits and pieces of the 5th expansion will be added to the PS2 HDD. So, by the time line if everything goes well, at release PS2 users will only have to buy the activation code to enjoy it.
these are my thoughts, my words, my opinions... not gonna say this is how it will be.
~~ PS2 may be old but, they still work after all these years ~~
they won't have it available at launch, currently (according to the statement in the OP)
if they are smart, they will do exactly as you said and release it little by little, which can be done even live now that they have more space to work with. I personally think it's silly to sell hard disks anymore for a game of this type, just adds to frustration, especially when people no longer can get the discs in their region, which a lot of EU PC and 360 players are having.
(although this might be an opportunity to have a new collection disc, which would be awesome, then people don't have to buy used copies of the old discs on ebay/amazon anymore, so +1 for that.)
By Jetackuu 2012-06-27 06:59:55
Bahamut.Justthetip said: »Bahamut.Justthetip said: »Bahamut.Justthetip said: »Understanding what logic and reason guy? You do understand not everyone has to agree with you right? You being this supreme being and all if I understand it then I know you do.
it has never been a matter of agreeing or disagreeing, it's a matter of facts and logic, you can disagree all you want, you're entitled to be wrong, but as long as you keep posting from the viewpoint of being wrong, you will be called out on it. I can't do it anymore. I never said it didnt make sense to make it in one area and not another. I just said in 3 different post that I want to see 100% increase in gameplay for this game since the PS2 limit in NA is done holding people back as some claim. Viewpoint of being wrong on that I want 100% increase in gameplay? What viewpoint that I dont want the game on consoles at all just PC? You have to explain what i mean since you seem to know for a fact im wrong before I post.
yeah you did, you even said you did: Bahamut.Justthetip said: » I posted that it doesnt make sense to not do a PS2 release for NA but for Japs.
I'm not going into why your other claim doesn't make sense, learn how to read.
Your other viewpoint is flawed too, for several reasons.
so not only are you illogical, flawed, inaccurate, you also lie, nice trolling. Ya thats what i been doing trolling. I havent been saying I just want 100% increase in gameplay not once. Why dont you learn how you teach me since this stuff is all new to me. You know maybe its just better to agree with you so you can stop assuming you are way better than me on some godly level. Btw thats for disc which is what you were talking about. I didn't know you can only do content from disc only.
nothing will change about the game's engine, which is the major limiting factor, not the PS2, learn computers?
which has already been stated, at least 20 times in this thread.
edit: it takes time to develop a download system for an update, it's up to SE if or how they want to implement it, they very well may not, but I would be one of many that would be disappointed if they don't.
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By Bahamut.Justthetip 2012-06-27 07:01:47
Valefor.Prothescar said: »You guys have been arguing for like 8 hours now How is it arguing if people are discussing something. We have to different views. I want 100% game increase after new expansion.
By Jetackuu 2012-06-27 07:03:20
Bahamut.Justthetip said: »Valefor.Prothescar said: »You guys have been arguing for like 8 hours now How is it arguing if people are discussing something. We have to different views. I want 100% game increase after new expansion.
no you've been arguing and changing your viewpoint every time you've been proven wrong, and then using ad hominem to boot.
I've been explaining to you how you're wrong, and you cannot accept that.
| 06-26-2012 06:42 PM | | Bayohne | | Community Rep |  |
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I’d like to take a moment to clarify which platform Seekers of Adoulin will be available on for those that have been asking. We will continue to support North American FINAL FANTASY XI players on the PlayStation 2, Xbox 360 and PC (Windows) platforms. However, FINAL FANTASY XI: Seekers of Adoulin will only be available on the Xbox 360 and Windows platforms in North America when it is released in 2013. | |
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